Forum Home Forum Home > Other music related lounges > General Music Discussions
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Progressive 80’s pop / sophisti-pop
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Progressive 80’s pop / sophisti-pop

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1234 5>
Author
Message Reverse Sort Order
Crane View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: September 08 2011
Location: Rhode Island
Status: Offline
Points: 411
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Crane Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2021 at 10:45
I put it on my list. Thanks, Progmind.
“Art is the recognition of the universal presence of God.” —Ernest Hello
Back to Top
Progmind View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: June 29 2010
Location: Argentina
Status: Offline
Points: 3453
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Progmind Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2021 at 09:22
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Progmind Progmind wrote:


Another great album, the debut of the band Doves - "Lost Souls" brilliant!!

Haven't heard that one but their album "The Last Broadcast" has prog elements, even a bit of King Crimson's Moonchild.

Another great album Chopper, my two favs by doves, but i prefer their debut, if you can check it out!
Back to Top
chopper View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: July 13 2005
Location: Essex, UK
Status: Offline
Points: 20030
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote chopper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2021 at 08:37
Originally posted by Progmind Progmind wrote:


Another great album, the debut of the band Doves - "Lost Souls" brilliant!!

Haven't heard that one but their album "The Last Broadcast" has prog elements, even a bit of King Crimson's Moonchild.
Back to Top
Progmind View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: June 29 2010
Location: Argentina
Status: Offline
Points: 3453
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Progmind Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2021 at 08:26
Crane, if you like Baroque pop + sophisti i recommend you The Divine Comedy, really a great band with many orchestral arregements.

Another great album, the debut of the band Doves - "Lost Souls" brilliant!!
Back to Top
Crane View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: September 08 2011
Location: Rhode Island
Status: Offline
Points: 411
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Crane Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2021 at 05:00
nick, following up...

Laughing Stock’s ‘The Island’ wasn’t as interesting to me, sorry to say. The most interesting tracks were those which jammed different genres together, e.g. “That Face.” But Laughing Stock indulged too much in the tendency to extend tracks unnecessarily, without compensatory musical development or introduction of material. Most distracting were the lyrics, which were (I think) self-consciously silly. Vis a vis this thread, on the whole I didn’t hear as much of an 80’s influence on this album. I’ll give it another listen, as these are obviously fine musicians who crafted a technically accomplished album with plenty of advanced ideas.
“Art is the recognition of the universal presence of God.” —Ernest Hello
Back to Top
Crane View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: September 08 2011
Location: Rhode Island
Status: Offline
Points: 411
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Crane Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2021 at 05:36
Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

This was lost almost immediately after I posted it. I know you checked out, and enjoyed The Opium Cartel. Did you give Laughing Stock a listen? No worries if you did, and it didn’t do it for you. I know they don’t quite fit the bill. 😄


It’s sitting in my queue as we speak. I’ve been discovering so much new music lately it’s kind of overwhelming! I will definitely get around to it. Right after IQ’s ‘Frequency’....
“Art is the recognition of the universal presence of God.” —Ernest Hello
Back to Top
nick_h_nz View Drop Down
Collaborator
Collaborator
Avatar
Prog Metal / Heavy Prog Team

Joined: March 01 2013
Location: Suffolk, UK
Status: Offline
Points: 6737
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote nick_h_nz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2021 at 05:01
Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

Perhaps, also, try Laughing Stock? The band name comes from Talk Talk, and they’re not at all what I would consider sophisti-pop, but I think they would likely appeal, nevertheless. I couldn’t even begin to guess all their influences, so varied is the palette they draw from, but I’d take a stab in the dark, and venture as well as Talk Talk, some Roxy Music, Brian Eno, Tears for Fears, XTC, Pink Floyd, Neil Young, Camel, The Beatles and probably at least a couple of dozen others. 🤪



This was lost almost immediately after I posted it. I know you checked out, and enjoyed The Opium Cartel. Did you give Laughing Stock a listen? No worries if you did, and it didn’t do it for you. I know they don’t quite fit the bill. 😄

Back to Top
TCat View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin

Joined: February 07 2010
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 11612
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TCat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2021 at 18:35
The band "of Montreal" is one of those sophisti-pop bands I think should be in the Archives.

Squeeze's album "Cosi Fan Tutti Frutti" is their most progressive and they are also an overlooked sophisti-pop style band.

10cc is here in the Archives and so is Mercury Rev, and I would consider them both sophisti-pop

Back to Top
Cristi View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Crossover / Prog Metal Teams

Joined: July 27 2006
Location: wonderland
Status: Offline
Points: 43855
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2021 at 17:08
Originally posted by earlyprog earlyprog wrote:

So now, 40 years later we return to the 80's to try and find the prog we cannot find today and couldn't find back then? doesn't make much sense to me, but interesting thread nonetheless...

Many of the bands mentioned, are already listed at PA.
 
Cm'on, who is the caretaker of this forum, move it to the Prog Related Forum or something lesser, please.

you're right, maybe ask Keishiro for help. Smile
Back to Top
nick_h_nz View Drop Down
Collaborator
Collaborator
Avatar
Prog Metal / Heavy Prog Team

Joined: March 01 2013
Location: Suffolk, UK
Status: Offline
Points: 6737
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote nick_h_nz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2021 at 15:50
Originally posted by earlyprog earlyprog wrote:

So now, 40 years later we return to the 80's to try and find the prog we cannot find today and couldn't find back then? doesn't make much sense to me, but interesting thread nonetheless...

Many of the bands mentioned, are already listed at PA.
 
Cm'on, who is the caretaker of this forum, move it to the Prog Related Forum or something lesser, please.

This definitely belongs here. The original topic of conversation is prog. Rather than suggesting it be moved, it would make more sense to ask for it to be brought back on topic - which is prog bands that have the sophisti-pop vibe. There are such bands in PA, and not in the prog-related section, but generally in Crossover.



Edited by nick_h_nz - March 14 2021 at 15:50
Back to Top
Crane View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: September 08 2011
Location: Rhode Island
Status: Offline
Points: 411
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Crane Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2021 at 15:47
Slick, produced, strongly melodic pop music, with 1) odd time signatures, 2) advanced harmonic movements, 3) long-form compositions inspired by classical music, and/or 4) strong development of themes rather than simple repetition.

Not necessarily from the 1980’s, but “80’s” conveys the heavy use of digital synthesiser and programmed sequences that I’d personally like to hear.


Edited by Crane - March 14 2021 at 15:48
“Art is the recognition of the universal presence of God.” —Ernest Hello
Back to Top
Crane View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: September 08 2011
Location: Rhode Island
Status: Offline
Points: 411
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Crane Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2021 at 15:42
earlyprog, if you read the OP you’ll see that I’m coveting something very specific in this thread. It’s sort of veered off into discussion of sophisti-pop in general. But the intention was to solicit prog recommendations.
“Art is the recognition of the universal presence of God.” —Ernest Hello
Back to Top
earlyprog View Drop Down
Collaborator
Collaborator
Avatar
Neo / PSIKE / Heavy Teams

Joined: March 05 2006
Location: .
Status: Offline
Points: 2133
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote earlyprog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2021 at 15:03
So now, 40 years later we return to the 80's to try and find the prog we cannot find today and couldn't find back then? doesn't make much sense to me, but interesting thread nonetheless...

Many of the bands mentioned, are already listed at PA.
 
Cm'on, who is the caretaker of this forum, move it to the Prog Related Forum or something lesser, please.


Edited by earlyprog - March 14 2021 at 15:17
Back to Top
dr wu23 View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: August 22 2010
Location: Indiana
Status: Offline
Points: 20625
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dr wu23 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2021 at 14:40
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

A bit off topic, but I'm surprised that Simple Minds, Ultravox, Echo and the Bunnymen and Magazine to name a few aren't on PA as prog related. To my ears they are more 'proggy' than many who are on here.
Stern Smile
To be honest, I would've been surprised to find any of those four bands listed in ProgArchives, but then again, I'm constantly surprised by the non-prog artists who are included here. Smile
The elephant in the room is the  'prog-related' category. Many of the bands there are subjectively included and imho are no more prog oriented as the ones I named. Bowie, Zep, BOC, Wishbone Ash,,,,there is nothing especially prog  related about them imho . And of course there is crossover...some there are also borderline prog.
But this is another discussion we have had many times here.Wink
One does nothing yet nothing is left undone.
Haquin
Back to Top
Psychedelic Paul View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: September 16 2019
Location: Nottingham, U.K
Status: Offline
Points: 40379
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Psychedelic Paul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2021 at 13:58
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

A bit off topic, but I'm surprised that Simple Minds, Ultravox, Echo and the Bunnymen and Magazine to name a few aren't on PA as prog related. To my ears they are more 'proggy' than many who are on here.
Stern Smile
To be honest, I would've been surprised to find any of those four bands listed in ProgArchives, but then again, I'm constantly surprised by the non-prog artists who are included here. Smile
Back to Top
dr wu23 View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: August 22 2010
Location: Indiana
Status: Offline
Points: 20625
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote dr wu23 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2021 at 13:51
A bit off topic, but I'm surprised that Simple Minds, Ultravox, Echo and the Bunnymen and Magazine to name a few aren't on PA as prog related. To my ears they are more 'proggy' than many who are on here.
Stern Smile
One does nothing yet nothing is left undone.
Haquin
Back to Top
tszirmay View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: August 17 2006
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 6673
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tszirmay Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2021 at 10:53
Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

Roxy Music- Avalon is the lushest and most earthy album ever made

I SECOND THAT EMOTION !Clap
I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth.
Back to Top
Icarium View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar
VIP Member

Joined: March 21 2008
Location: Tigerstaden
Status: Offline
Points: 34055
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (2) Thanks(2)   Quote Icarium Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2021 at 10:52
Roxy Music- Avalon is the lushest and most earthy album ever made
Back to Top
Icarium View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar
VIP Member

Joined: March 21 2008
Location: Tigerstaden
Status: Offline
Points: 34055
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Icarium Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2021 at 10:51
I will pitch into the pile and say the first 5 Saga albums are excellent Sophist pop/rock, songs like Humble Stance and Dont Be Lite are slaying and the early beggings os Chapters concept. Pay atention to the guitar / keyboard unisons if Ian Crichton and Jim Gilmour

Also solo album of Roger Hodgson "In the Eye of the Storm" is majestic and impressive spessialy the last track where Roger playes the best guitar solo of hes carear.
Back to Top
tszirmay View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: August 17 2006
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 6673
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tszirmay Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2021 at 10:43

My Best Live drum performances:

John Bonham -Led Zep

Craig Blundell -Steve Wilson and Steve Hackett tours

Gavin Harrison- Ptree

Bill Bruford- KC- Yes and UK

Phil Collins- Genesis+ solo

Leon Ndugu Chancler- Santana

Franz di Cioccio- PFM

Mel Gaynor- Simple Minds

 

I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth.
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1234 5>

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down



This page was generated in 0.242 seconds.
Donate monthly and keep PA fast-loading and ad-free forever.