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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Yes, but it's time to stop talking about it and get back to the topic.

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I gave my students an essay to do and this is what a 19-year old student wrote:

"Progressive rock implies a particular mindset in recording and performing music, an predisposition to test established limits and boundaries. Stylistically speaking, progressive rock is all over the map. Pioneering artists, unfettered by preconceived notions of the status quo, can be found within all musical categories.

Furthermore, the means by which an artist displays "progressive" leanings may vary according to the presence of one (or more) of the following features:

(1) complex, often lengthy, compositions

(2) virtuostic performances

(3) exotic and/or eclectic instrumentation

The Beatles' release of Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Heart Club Band, represented a watershed development in the development of the genre. In retrospect, examples of progressive rock can be identified as existing prior to that album's appearance in June 1967, ranging from Elvis Presley's early rockabilly experiments to the Byrds' folk rock classics recorded between 1965-1967. However, post-Sgt. Pepper works tended to exude a seriousness of purpose (i.e., the consideration of aesthetics over the commercial marketplace) hitherto relegated to the jazz and classical music sectors. The emergence of rock journalism, largely built around young intellectuals who had grown up listening to rock 'n' roll and other popular music genres, helped to spread the gospel of highbrow rock art. The youth subculture, then preoccupied with weighty social matters such as civil rights and the anti-Vietnam War movement, wholeheartedly bought into the concept.

The concept album represented a notable subgenre within the progressive rock movement. In view of the increased profit-making potential of the long-playing twelve-inch record (which generally included ten to fourteen songs and ranged in length from thirty to fifty minutes) over forty-five r.p.m. singles, record companies concentrated their promotional efforts toward establishing the l.p. as the primary mode of aesthetic expression within the rock scene. Accordingly, rock musicians began experimenting with ways of presenting a unified thematic message (both in the music and song lyrics) within the framework of a record album.



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I was reminded the other day, thanks to FB Memories, of a time when as hard as I tried, all my eldest daughter wanted to listen to was Procol Harum’s “Whisky Train”. She called music “parties”, and I was trying to play some different “parties” I thought she might like. She went to my cd rack, pushed it around with great effort (it is heavy for an adult to turn, so must have been a mammoth task for her), found “Home”, pulled it out and declared “I like this one, Daddy, don’t I?”

At that time, her second favourite song was Opeth’s “Ghost of Perdition”, and her third favourite was Katy Perry’s “Roar”.

I went back to have a look, just how long ago this was. It was 13 January 2013, so Ruby would have been three, almost four. I asked her again now if she still liked Whisky Train. She said it’s alright but she got a bit bored of it. Opeth? Yes, she still likes them. Katy Perry? Not really, anymore. Little Mix (who she loved at one point, and went to see live)? They’re alright still, but not really. What does she think she likes most from my music now? Don’t know. Probably David Bowie. But she did add that she likes a lot of it, but doesn’t actually know what it is she’s listening to.

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Tried to add some variety to tonight's parties, but after a song or two, Ruby asked if we could have different parties and went and brought Procol Harum's Home to me. "I like this one, don't I Daddy?"

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Yes, but it's time to stop talking about it and get back to the topic.

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Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

Yesterday I was enjoying reading everyone's comments on what kinds of music their parents and family members listened to. Can we please get back to that?

Here, here. I leave for work and come back hoping to read more stories...
Never experienced a slap fight on this site quite like that one though...lmao
Prog is great but it's nothing to blow your head off over..




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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by Ronstein Ronstein wrote:

Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

Yesterday I was enjoying reading everyone's comments on what kinds of music their parents and family members listened to. Can we please get back to that?


Exactly this^. If you want to have a scrap, PM each other please and let the rest of us debate in peace. 
Absolutely. My two sons went in very different musical directions. One into 80s/90s hard rock and metal with Rush thrown in, the other into classical. My parents were into the left wing folk of the late 50s/early 60s, which rubbed off on me. Untill I heard Purple Haze by Hendrix.

Funnily enough, I think that was what (almost) everyone was saying. There is no right or wrong I music, and never can be. My musical tastes are completely different from my parents, my brothers, and my wife’s. For the moment, to use the wording of the OP, my children have an affinity for prog, because they’re still quite young, and haven’t necessarily made all their own choices yet.

I was reminded the other day, thanks to FB Memories, of a time when as hard as I tried, all my eldest daughter wanted to listen to was Procol Harum’s “Whisky Train”. She called music “parties”, and I was trying to play some different “parties” I thought she might like. She went to my cd rack, pushed it around with great effort (it is heavy for an adult to turn, so must have been a mammoth task for her), found “Home”, pulled it out and declared “I like this one, Daddy, don’t I?”

At that time, her second favourite song was Opeth’s “Ghost of Perdition”, and her third favourite was Katy Perry’s “Roar”.

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Lots of my students including the girls are getting into prog and rock in general ...since the topic of prog was introduced with the video, the kids are asking me to speak about other, more obscure prog bands.
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Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

Yesterday I was enjoying reading everyone's comments on what kinds of music their parents and family members listened to. Can we please get back to that?

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Originally posted by Ronstein Ronstein wrote:

Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

Yesterday I was enjoying reading everyone's comments on what kinds of music their parents and family members listened to. Can we please get back to that?


Exactly this^. If you want to have a scrap, PM each other please and let the rest of us debate in peace. 
Absolutely. My two sons went in very different musical directions. One into 80s/90s hard rock and metal with Rush thrown in, the other into classical. My parents were into the left wing folk of the late 50s/early 60s, which rubbed off on me. Untill I heard Purple Haze by Hendrix.
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Originally posted by Ronstein Ronstein wrote:

Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

Yesterday I was enjoying reading everyone's comments on what kinds of music their parents and family members listened to. Can we please get back to that?

Exactly this^. If you want to have a scrap, PM each other please and let the rest of us debate in peace. 

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Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

Yesterday I was enjoying reading everyone's comments on what kinds of music their parents and family members listened to. Can we please get back to that?

Exactly this^. If you want to have a scrap, PM each other please and let the rest of us debate in peace. 
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Yesterday I was enjoying reading everyone's comments on what kinds of music their parents and family members listened to. Can we please get back to that?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote triptych Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 20 2021 at 03:57
Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

[sarcasm] No wonder Kiwis make such fun of Aussies, if the above is an example of how their teachers think. 😳 [/sarcasm]


This is the ELITISM that I was talking about.....!TongueBig smileClap
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote triptych Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 20 2021 at 03:55
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by triptych triptych wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by triptych triptych wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by triptych triptych wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by triptych triptych wrote:

Debating is a form of art...just like music, art, poetry......and it's not for everyone.

is that an insult for me? 

how are you debating? You have not even defended your premise that "PT and Radiohead suck". Or what's your premise? Youngsters listen to awful music like PT and Radiohead and they don't know anything? ConfusedLOL



Now you're not reading in my posts what you don't want to read.......you skipped "IMPERSONALLY" intentionally, remember ???! I never said youngsters listen to awful music like PT and RH, YOU said it and you're still trying to put words in my posts I never wrote :):)ClapClap
Oh and if you think I will eventually back down from a hearty discussion, you've got the wrong person :):)

I'm not putting words in your mouth. I just asked you what's the premise of your so called debate? 

Again, replying with questions.......Shocked

if you answered the question in the first place, I wouldn't have to ask again. LOL
Beating around the bush IN AN IMPERSONAL sense gets "debaters" nowhere fast LOLLOL

how am I beating around the bush?
I asked you two questions and you answered neither and I am beating around the bush?
Unintentional humor is awesome! 

Again...and again.......replying with questions....naughty, naughty.....Clap
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Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

[sarcasm] No wonder Kiwis make such fun of Aussies, if the above is an example of how their teachers think. 😳 [/sarcasm]


No-one asked your BIASED RACIST opinion
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Originally posted by triptych triptych wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by triptych triptych wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by triptych triptych wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by triptych triptych wrote:

Debating is a form of art...just like music, art, poetry......and it's not for everyone.

is that an insult for me? 

how are you debating? You have not even defended your premise that "PT and Radiohead suck". Or what's your premise? Youngsters listen to awful music like PT and Radiohead and they don't know anything? ConfusedLOL



Now you're not reading in my posts what you don't want to read.......you skipped "IMPERSONALLY" intentionally, remember ???! I never said youngsters listen to awful music like PT and RH, YOU said it and you're still trying to put words in my posts I never wrote :):)ClapClap
Oh and if you think I will eventually back down from a hearty discussion, you've got the wrong person :):)

I'm not putting words in your mouth. I just asked you what's the premise of your so called debate? 

Again, replying with questions.......Shocked

if you answered the question in the first place, I wouldn't have to ask again. LOL
Beating around the bush IN AN IMPERSONAL sense gets "debaters" nowhere fast LOLLOL

how am I beating around the bush?
I asked you two questions and you answered neither and I am beating around the bush?
Unintentional humor is awesome! 
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[sarcasm] No wonder Kiwis make such fun of Aussies, if the above is an example of how their teachers think. 😳 [/sarcasm]

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote triptych Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 20 2021 at 03:32
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by triptych triptych wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by triptych triptych wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by triptych triptych wrote:

Debating is a form of art...just like music, art, poetry......and it's not for everyone.

is that an insult for me? 

how are you debating? You have not even defended your premise that "PT and Radiohead suck". Or what's your premise? Youngsters listen to awful music like PT and Radiohead and they don't know anything? ConfusedLOL



Now you're not reading in my posts what you don't want to read.......you skipped "IMPERSONALLY" intentionally, remember ???! I never said youngsters listen to awful music like PT and RH, YOU said it and you're still trying to put words in my posts I never wrote :):)ClapClap
Oh and if you think I will eventually back down from a hearty discussion, you've got the wrong person :):)

I'm not putting words in your mouth. I just asked you what's the premise of your so called debate? 

Again, replying with questions.......Shocked

if you answered the question in the first place, I wouldn't have to ask again. LOL
Beating around the bush IN AN IMPERSONAL sense gets "debaters" nowhere fast LOLLOL
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