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verslibre 
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Saperlipopette!
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^ Yes I know. Our main attraction to a band like Tangerine Dream are probably very different. Pretty piano melodies such as in the intro on Quichotte is certainly not part of why I was drawn to them. Not rocking guitar solos either, that's for sure. It was mainly the sort of Mysterious Semblance at the Strand of Nightmares-"journeys in sound" that interested me. I've eventually warmed up to some of their more conventional sounding albums, but much prefer their abstracted soundspaces, trips to space or whatever... over cute little sitcom themes. |
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Posted: August 21 2022 at 02:49 |
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Well I love the intro to Quichotte and the whole album for that matter.
I was never a fan of TD until Force Majeure and its generally the era of 1977-1987 for electronic music that I like most. That includes Neuronium, JM Jarre , Vangelis as well as TD. I never got into the whole Berlin school thing at all I'm afraid to say. Also tend to think that the use of Mellotron in electronic music is a total cop out. Hey ho.
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Saperlipopette!
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Posted: August 20 2022 at 05:09 |
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^until now.
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verslibre
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It wouldn't. Because I've never heard it, let alone thought of it, in that context. TEHO.
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Saperlipopette!
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Someone who goes by the "name" getitinyoursoul in the comment-section for the Quichotte-album at RYM. I fully get it, I'm afraid. Listen to Palace of Dreams from ca. 2:45 and onwards out and tell me that wouldn't make the perfect theme tune for a relatively safe and unfunny early 1980's sitcom.
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Sean Trane
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Don't get me wrong, I still include Cyclone & Encore inside the
good era, and don't consider Force as a Majeure sonic change. I
wouldn't say that FM was a change of era. It's just that whatever comes after either sounds like déjà-vu (or more like déjà-entendu)  or fails to rattle my cojones.
It's not just the synths... I don't like much the drumming... or even Frouese's guitar intervention in the 80's Generally , it's the whole TD 80's soundscapes that I started finding boring around the time. It had lost the magic. It's certainly to do with my dislike of the 80's overall, but not just that. BTW, I don't know how much their numerous film OST works provoked their sonic changes (contractual obligations to stick more with the musical zeitgeist to be chosen for the job?). Apparently the Sorcerer thingie didn't really change their musical course, but I don't get Thief and some of their other movie collab (despite that in Risky Business, I don't fidn't their small participation very different than what they'd done in the 70's) It's hardly no suprise at all to me that Green Desert is the only "80's" thing I really like, since it actually dates from 10 years earlier. |
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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FM was my favorite TD album for a long time. Those two represent different eras. FM has live drums and is the second half of TD's full-on prog rock phase. Encore was the culmination of the FFB line-up. I can't compare the two aside from saying they're both essential.
 You must hate '80s synths as much as I love 'em. |
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Posted: August 18 2022 at 14:24 |
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Hey Rollon, Yes, I am hoping one day to find the missing music on a stand-alone disc.
Yes, I know about the part-live particularities of both Ricochet and Encore. I wouldn't say I rated the latter low, but it's not nearly as rivetting as Force Majeure. It it wasn't for FM, I'd say that TD's downwards slide started with Cyclone. .
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That is a positively bizarre quote. (Who wrote it?) A cross "between Bette Midler and a sitcom theme"? I don't get it. Different strokes, as they say. Johannes' piano composition is hypnotic and elegant, and he rerecorded a standalone version ("Palace of Dreams") for his 2009 album A Thousand Times. 
Again, I've never really known anyone to not like when Edgar picks up his guitar! But maybe you'd like to hear the unabridged concert? There's a lot more to it...
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I love Quichotte of course and gave it 5 stars EDIt - oops on checking I only went 4 stars Edited by richardh - August 18 2022 at 10:20 |
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I don't think, waiting is a good idea, Paul.  |
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quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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Psychedelic Paul
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Posted: August 18 2022 at 05:57 |
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You only had two albums in your list, so I was waiting until you had a full Top 7 before adding on the points from your vote.
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Paul, it looks like, you missed my voting.  |
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Psychedelic Paul
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Top 7 update with Syzygy's votes added:-
2. Ricochet (101 points) 2. Stratosfear (96 points) 3. Rubycon (90 points) 3. Force Majeure (90 points) 5. Phaedra (82 points) 6. Zeit (58 points) 7. Tangram (34 points) 8. Alpha Centauri (33 points) 9. Exit (28 points) 10. Encore (22 Points) 11. Cyclone (20 points) 12. Atem (19 points) |
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When I listen to TD these days I usually dip into the various archival official bootleg releases, but from their main run of albums I would choose
1 Zeit 2 Ricochet 3 Force Majeure 4 Poland 5 Phaedra 6 Rubycon 7 Stratosfear |
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Saperlipopette!
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I've never bothered finding out whether the music I hear is actually live or not. I mainly buy live albums by bands that feature original material. That's my main attraction to Ricochet and Encore - apart from them being great, I mean. But
Its funny how no two Tangerine Dream fans seem to agree with each other all that much. Even those with quite similar tastes (like perhaps Sean and myself) will choose one of the other fan's least favorite after the first five... maybe six first picks. -Anyway, you're obviously more of a die hard fan than I am. For one I'm quite indifferent to almost 40 years of their recording career. I've only own the Quichotte LP, but it's primarely Johannes Schmoelling and his wonderful piano chops that ruins the experience for me. I found a quote that sums up how I feel about it: ...The five-minute piano solo that opens this
up is not an auspicious start for Schmoelling's tenure in the band. It
sounds like a cross between a mid-80s Bette Midler tune and a sitcom
theme. Things only get good when the synths swallow it whole... Yep, plus I don't enjoy Froese rocking out on his guitar 1980's style on most of the B-side either. All in all a typical "close, but no cigar" album for me.
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Top 7 update with Modrigue's votes added:-
1. Stratosfear (95 points) 2. Ricochet (93 points) 3. Rubycon (88 points) 4. Force Majeure (84 points) 5. Phaedra (79 points) 6. Zeit (46 points) 7. Tangram (34 points) 8. Alpha Centauri (33 points) 9. Exit (28 points) 10. Encore (22 Points) 11. Cyclone (20 points) 12. Atem (19 points) |
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For me:
1) Ricochet 2) Stratosfear 3) Poland 4) Force Majeure 5) Rubycon 6) Phaedra 7) Hyperborea |
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Ricochet is only partly "live": two eight-minute-long extracts from the 23/10/75 concert at Croydon were remixed and fused with a new effects bridge, while Edgar improvised the piano part which starts Side B. Side A is not live, not one bit. Either way, it's a classic. Encore is fantastic. Side 4 ("Desert Dream") isn't live (the band even said so), but nobody's complaining. The searing "Monolight" is worth the price of admission. Side 3, "Coldwater Canyon," was only performed in the southwestern USA. How anyone rates Encore down is beyond me. Quichotte (rereleased later as Pergamon) is a document of their 31/1/80 concert in East Berlin that also introduced Johannes Schmoelling, whose wonderful piano chops were unveiled promptly. The initial album was outstanding but the complete concert, remastered and released as CD3/4 of The Official Bootleg Box Volume Two, is even better (yes, that's an understatement).
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