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Poll Question: Which is THE Strawbs Epic?
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I don't claim to know anything of DC's radio adventures except that I do know he was relieved to leave the Strawbs for it 1978 and was successful at whatever his function was. I do know that the Strawbs were resurrected in the 80s to keep his friends like Brian Willoughby, Tony Hooper and Richard Hudson employed, so the band never had DC's undivided attention and it shows in the few albums that version of the group made.
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HI,

I don't know that I think of one of my favorite bands as having "epic" songs, and they have too many albums that I love dearly.

Just great music, but I'm not sure that DC can come up with something longer than his nice words and poems, that could be enlarged by the music as is the case in a couple of examples ... but they were always good and I wish they had better luck and a better chance ... DC and the group, deserve it for the fine amount of music right from the start.

My only sad comment? That DC had to quit music to work in the development of the FM radio in England, and apparently got known really well for his proposals to add a station in various places. So he had an effect, in terms of adding something ... but none of that is reflected too well in the albums, although I have not done a listing side by side of dates for the albums and the rest of his life.

For all the good he did on the radio thing, he did not push his own band, at least as far as his words are concerned in the book, and I think he should have done it a couple more times, but with the BBC and other folks with knives and guns in their had, I think he played it safe to not hurt any investors, Something like that, although my understanding of radio "history" in England is nothing compared to the one in America, that I was very close to!
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Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Ok. I've done farts longer than all those tracks...epics? Suppose to the popsters everything over three minutes is an epic boring prog dinosaur noodle fest....😎
Barney, some times you come up with some real winners of opinion. What makes a song an epic is it's sense of grandiosity and dare I say it, it's sense of pretention. But to satisfy your definition of an epic, the song running times are as follows, with only New World being close to your three minute pop formula: The Battle 6:28, The Antique Suite 12:13, Blue Angel 9:45, New World 4:08, The River/Down By The Sea 8:37, Autumn 8:26 and Ghosts 8:30.  Cool

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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I don't know any of those songs, but I do know that Hero & Heroine is my favourite Strawbs album. Smile
 


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Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Ok. I've done farts longer than all those tracks...epics? Suppose to the popsters everything over three minutes is an epic boring prog dinosaur noodle fest....😎

Prefer three minutes of euphoric well constructed music than 20 minutes of boredom. 
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Ok. I've done farts longer than all those tracks...epics? Suppose to the popsters everything over three minutes is an epic boring prog dinosaur noodle fest....😎

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Oh, Simple Visions could have easily fit on this poll. Such a great song from such a mediocre album.

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Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:

As a huge Strawbs fan, I could say "all of them", because they're all exceptional, but Down by the Sea is my choice.
The opening guitar riff (copied by Bleak House on Rainbow Warrior, then by Metallica on Welcome Home (Sanitarium) is just awesome, as is the rest of the song.

I listened to those two songs and both have remarkable similarities not just in the riff but in certain other parts of the songs as related to parts of "Down by the Sea".   I remember someone else saying the heavier sung parts of the song reminded him of Marillion.   Off topic slightly, I always thought that Peter Gabriel had listened to Strawbs' "Simple Visions" before penning "Solsbury Hill".  Not that it's a copy or anything
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This is really a hard choice, since all these are great pieces of music. I'll vote for ghosts, but any of them cold win, and that would be fine with me.
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Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:


Steve, if you included "The Vision of the Lady of the Lake" you would also have had to include "The Ferryman's Curse"
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I went with Autumn, though Ghosts and Blue Angel are close seconds, depending on the mood.  All of those listed are excellent and show a huge variety of what constitutes an epic

Steve, if you included "The Vision of the Lady of the Lake" you would also have had to include "The Ferryman's Curse"
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Autumn....perhaps my favorite track by Strawbs.
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I don't know any of those songs, but I do know that Hero & Heroine is my favourite Strawbs album. Smile

The Hero and heroine theme is an epic, even though it gets broken up, isn't it? Since it's not an option here I've chosen River/Down by the Sea.
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

^ Thanks Drew. I forgot to include The Vision Of The Lady Of The Lake. KenLevine is going to give me hell! Angry Ouch!


If he doesn't, I will AngryLOL

The most epic?? Hangman & Papist

But I'll take Where Is This Dream of Your Youth (also unlisted) on Antiques & Curios






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Blue Angel - Dave's masterpiece! I know it started out as a solo track, but I think it has cemented its place in the band's hall of fame ever since! ❤️

.... Autumn would be next, though.
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The Autumn suite is stellar. 
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The Battle is short—certainly not of epic length, but it is most certainly epic in nature. Also The Vision Of The Lady Of The Lake is a strong contender.
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I love Blue Angel the best, but I think of it as a solo Cousins tune, as that is how I first heard it, on Two Weeks Last Summer.

Hard to choose between Ghosts and New World for me, although I love all of these, those two are very closely tied together in terms of what I love about Strawbs.

I've always loved the juxtaposition of the lullaby into the nightmare of Ghosts, so that's where I'm going. Plus I kind of have a thing for dreams and spooky things.
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The Antique Suite for me.
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