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Love Over Gold has some hints of prog here and there, within Telegraph Road. A great song and also great lyrics. The rest of their catalogue is not progressive. The opposite. imo.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote I prophesy disaster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 30 2023 at 19:30
Wikipedia regards "Love over Gold" as progressive rock, art rock, jazz rock.
 
Not long after "Love over Gold" was released, my older brother offered me a ticket to a Dire Straits concert, describing their music as "similar to Pink Floyd" which, because neither of us were aware of the term "progressive rock" at that time, was his way of saying he thought their music was progressive rock. He introduced me to Yes and Nektar, so he was aware of what progressive rock was.
 
It should be said that this was during the '80s when progressive rock had more-or-less disappeared from the airwaves in Australia, so every hint of progressive rock counted.
 



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Frets N Worries Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 30 2023 at 19:06
Telegraph Road was the song that led me to love longer songs, so for me, they're not prog, but a stepping stone that led me to progressive rock
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Not prog Imo....however I like Telegraph Road a lot
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mellotronwave Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2023 at 06:06
Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

They cant be prog: King Charles III listen to them!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jared Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2023 at 03:18
Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

They cant be prog: King Charles III listen to them!

He also attended a Status Quo gig with Di, back in '82... and before anyone asks, Quo ain't prog either; as they so self-deprecatingly admitted, they were still searching for the fourth chord.. 
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Dire Straits are about as much of a prog band as Steely Dan or The Police. 

LOL

I would also throw in Queen just to reignite an old argument.Wink
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Adding some Heavy Fuel to the debate, I can tell you Money for Nothing that Dire Straits are So Far Away from prog, but between You and Your Friend, Why Worry anyway, as they'll always be a Solid Rock band to me. Smile

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2023 at 16:53
Dire Straits are about as much of a prog band as Steely Dan or The Police. 
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Nope.  Just because it's long, does not make it a prog rock song.

Edited by omphaloskepsis - May 11 2023 at 08:11
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They cant be prog: King Charles III listen to them!
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Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

Do Dire Straits Count as Prog? They did do some very progressive stuff, like their 14 minute song Telegraph Road, but is that just a sort of weird, jazz fusion/roots rock stuff?

Not really. Like, a 14 minute song doesn't automatically make a band prog. For example, the stoner metal band of Bongripper has a ton of 15+ minute songs, and they aren't prog. Same with the noise artist of Merzbow. Length doesn't quite equal what is or isn't prog. Gentle Giant doesn't really have any big long songs. It is all based around the music, and too me, while Dire Straits have some great music, they aren't prog, 14 minutes or not.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MortSahlFan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2023 at 12:12
No, but a band that had a unique/original sound. "Sultans of Swing" is one of the greatest songs ever. "Making Movies" is a tape we listened to a lot on our drives to grandma's. The only 'picker' I like. I never liked walk of life, so far away, money for nothing, though.
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Looking at some of my old posts (during the pandemic mainly I think) I was really demonstrating some unnecessary hate towards them . They were far from being the worst thing in the eighties and stuff such as Telegraph road and Private Investigations was decent enough. However I genuinely dislike Money For Nothing although that's more for the horrible production. 

Love Over Gold was excellent, i overplayed it when i was younger. I overplayed DS in general back then, i rarely listen these days. 


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2023 at 09:56
Looking at some of my old posts (during the pandemic mainly I think) I was really demonstrating some unnecessary hate towards them . They were far from being the worst thing in the eighties and stuff such as Telegraph road and Private Investigations was decent enough. However I genuinely dislike Money For Nothing although that's more for the horrible production. 
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Saw John live in Shrewsbury doing some acoustic stuff.  Met him and bought a signed CD of his new album - but never listened to it hah.  Love him as part of DS though.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote timmble Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2023 at 07:48
Obsessive Dire Straits fan here, since the age of 6.  46 now!

I've had Brothers in Arms and their first album on this afternoon.  They definitely do borrow some prog elements from time, say for instance, the second half of Why Worry on Brothers in Arms, and Telegraph Road.

But yeah, they aren't a prog rock band.  There's folk, blues, jass, and all sorts of other stuff in Mark's songs.
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

Admittedly, Manitas de Plata and other great
flamenco players are the real greatest guitarists of all time. 

Your post reminds me of those people (usually found in YT comments) who say something like:
"(insert a contemporary band they don't like here) isn't music. (insert an old band they do like here) is real music."
That is true.
All bands formed after 1995 aren't music. Genesis is real music. Wink
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hrychu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2020 at 13:58
Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

Admittedly, Manitas de Plata and other great
flamenco players are the real greatest guitarists of all time. 

Your post reminds me of those people (usually found in YT comments) who say something like:
"(insert a contemporary band they don't like here) isn't music. (insert an old band they do like here) is real music."
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