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I bought Yes' 'Tales From the Topographic Oceans' three years ago. 
My older brother took me to see Yes perform live at the end of 1973. They played 'Close to the Edge' , all four sides of 'Tales'....and 'Roundabout' as an encore. 
Didn't take to 'Tales' at all. Over the decades that followed , didn't listen to much Prog, and the only Yes album I owned was 'Relayer' until well into this century. 
Now really appreciate 'Tales ' . I know that the album caused a rift in the band and Rick Wakeman left ( for the first time) as was not happy with it. It may not be Yes' best  work, but get a lot from listening to 'Tales' ...and even enjoy the lyrics which seem quite obtuse even by Prog standards. 
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I'm pretty sure I never owned a single Queen album til a couple of weeks ago, when I bought a big box of old CDs which included Queen II, Sheer Heart Attack, Day at the Races, Night at the Opera and News of the World, and a few other less reputable ones.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dr wu23 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2020 at 10:47
To be honest I can't say there is any classic prog that I'm not aware of or discovered recently...I have discovered many obscure things in the last 30 years thanks to several  friends and of course this forum and it's members.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote moshkito Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2020 at 07:04
Originally posted by iluvmarillion iluvmarillion wrote:

It helps if you're a hundred years old. You get just everything when it comes out. Problem is you run out of space to store everything.

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Not really. You just do not spend time and money on things that are less essential ... for example, in the 70's I didn't need to spend a cent, and wouldn't, on Elton John ... that's not to say that he wasn't good ... but with KS/TD/AD2/CAN/BANCO/PFM and so many other things wanting to come home ... guess what you got ... and I was not interested in the Eric Clapton album, either, or Kris/Barbara new album that raised album prices!

Our interest then, and I agree that it was not the "normal" form, of hit-ridden and obsessed folks (like here!), but there was much better and greater music out there, that too many folks did not wish to hear ... and if you think this is not important of valuable ... Guy Guden and his Space Pirate Radio is still the most important "new music" person EVER ... and we're talking 46 1/2 years later ... so my next question ... where is your focus?

Ours was new music ... too many here it's just the top 5!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote iluvmarillion Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2020 at 00:46
It helps if you're a hundred years old. You get just everything when it comes out. Problem is you run out of space to store everything.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Droxford Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2020 at 15:01

I rate the Mahavishnu Orchestra's first three albums , Inner Mounting Flame, Birds of Fire , and Between Nothingness and Eternity, very highly . 

Would be interested to know what you think of 'Birds of Fire' . Very different line up and far more fierce sound from 'Emerald Beyond'.




Originally posted by johnobvious johnobvious wrote:

Just bought Mahavishnu Orchestra - Birds of Fire. Laser's Edge had it for $5. Got shipped today so I may have to come back and let you know what I have been missing. Emerald Beyond is the only other one of theirs I have.
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I used to have Emerson, Lake & Palmer's first album on CD many years ago, but I gave it away for free. I wouldn't have done that though if I'd known I was going to be a member of a Prog_Rock website in several years time. Smile
 

the compilation that you have though (mentioned on another thread) does the business . With ELP, a good compilation suffices , and I say that as a fan. That said it hasn't stopped me buying 7 re-issues or so of Brain Salad Surgery. Smile
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As a young prog folk (18 y.o) I discovered prog in 2018 with ITCOTCK and since then I know all the Big 6 releases as well as obscure RPI like Il Rovescio Della Medaglia for example. I own like 30 prog vinyls including Osanna, VDGG, Hammill (I love A Black Box), Genesis, Yes, King Crimson, Jethro Tull, Zappa, Ange, Camel, Oldfield, etc.

Recently I got myself into AMAROK by Oldfield and Trilogy by ELP.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TerLJack Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2020 at 09:04
I just rediscovered Yessongs.  
I had a couple songs on cassette, recorded from vinyl years ago.  Serious years.  Recorded well before the second live record came out.  
Since then, I've worked hard to complete my studio discography from Yes.  Never replaced the live records, thinking those versions inferior.
I was wrong, dead wrong.  Some of these are definitive versions in my mind.  Performances are off the chart.
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Sagichim Sagichim wrote:

I got Peter Gabriel Melt only recently.
 
I've never listened to any of Peter Gabriel's solo albums, so maybe it's time for me to give them a listen on YouTube. Smile

That one right there's a good one to start!  Other wise titled PG3
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I used to have Emerson, Lake & Palmer's first album on CD many years ago, but I gave it away for free. I wouldn't have done that though if I'd known I was going to be a member of a Prog_Rock website in several years time. Smile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote progaardvark Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2020 at 08:29
My most recent was Khan's Space Shanty. I think if I had had more money when I was younger, I would've heard most of the classics by now. Sometimes groups or albums "fall through the crack" as you focus on newer stuff. Fortunately, all it takes is an interesting post or review to rediscover these albums you wanted to get, but for whatever reason, got lost.
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

^I had Guitar Noir a long time ago. I remember it being good but I didn't know it was a five star album. To be honest I think maybe more like three stars.
 
Well, it was a 5-star album to me anyway, but then again, I've been accused of overrating albums before.  Tongue


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Originally posted by Jeffro Jeffro wrote:

Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:


It doesn't matter how you find it; it's all timeless! Foxtrot is exemplary progressive rock. It finds you when you're ready.

TAAB finally "hit me" last year, as well.

That sums up my experience with 70s Genesis. One day it found me and clicked. 

By this time (1972 - see thread above), I was already in Nektar, Ange, Banco, Renaissance, Roy Harper, Kevin Ayers, Amon Duul 2, Can, Kraftwerk, Neu, Guru Guru, Kraan, TD, KS and so many other bands that the this album did not exactly shake my booties ... and it wasn't until SEBTP that I got into Genesis some more, but i kinda dropped it after TLLDOB, and instead took up one of the great composers I have ever known, in ANTHONY PHILLIPS ... his music was far more intuitive and creative than Genesis ever became, which was just another pop band for my tastes. A good band, mind you, but no longer my tastes!


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Originally posted by Jeffro Jeffro wrote:

Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:


It doesn't matter how you find it; it's all timeless! Foxtrot is exemplary progressive rock. It finds you when you're ready.

TAAB finally "hit me" last year, as well.

That sums up my experience with 70s Genesis. One day it found me and clicked. 

And your life will be much better as a result!!!
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Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:


It doesn't matter how you find it; it's all timeless! Foxtrot is exemplary progressive rock. It finds you when you're ready.

TAAB finally "hit me" last year, as well.

That sums up my experience with 70s Genesis. One day it found me and clicked. 
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Originally posted by Argo2112 Argo2112 wrote:

OK, I know I'll probably get some light hearted abuse for this one. Some may even want to revoke my prog membership,  but I just recently purchased ......Wait for it ....FOXTROT! I know everyone has had this album for 40 years <snip>

Not everyone. I have come to appreciate pre-Abacab Genesis only within the last 5-6 years. Before that it didn't click with me. Now I love it

Originally posted by Argo2112 Argo2112 wrote:

Anyway my question yo you is what well know prog albums ( if any) have you discovered recently?

Triumvirat - Illusions of a Double Dimple
Tull - Songs From The Wood, Heavy Horses, Minstrel in the Gallery, (next up A Passion Play)
ELP - First album, Tarkus, Trilogy
Porcupine Tree - Up The Downstair, The Sky Moves Sideways, Signify, Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape, Voyage 34: The Complete Trip 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote miamiscot Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2020 at 07:31
I was very late in coming to terms with non-English vocals. So all that great Italian stuff (with the exception of the Manticore PFM releases) passed me by in the 70s. Same thing with Ange. The French vocals were a deal-killer. But now I can't get enough!!!
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Hi,

Considering how tough so many things were at the time in 1972 and beyond, other than the albums that already had splashed the newer FM radio dial in full stereo and showing how great music could sound ... something that was not there before in radio as the AM band was cheesy sounding, not to mention the quality of the music that supposedly sold ... so yummy yummy sold millions? ... I'll take that dis-belief to my grave in the sky, thank you!

But one thing that was obvious then, was that the list for "imports" at Moby Disk, or the late Twoer Records in the Strip, or even the Warehouse in Westwood, was that all of these "imports" were not released domestically, and our buying started concentrating on the things that we could not get in America, or better said, were not released here.

As such, I would like to think that the number of "progressive" and "newer" material that we heard was far above the average and involved a lot of folks listed here, from those days, way before they were added to any database. Thus, we heard TD, KS, and a lot of the German and experimental scene in England (specially the HARVEST label stuff from the listing in the Hipgnosis Breakfast Cereal "ingredients" from an inner sleeve, of a Kevin Ayers album I believe ... not sure of that, but it was either that or Roy Harper.

In essence, between the early days of Guy Guden/Space Pirate Radio, we did not miss a whole lot, and a review of the listings I have of many of his shows between March 1974 (show started in January 1974) until the end of 1978 (over 300 hours!), when I had to go to the University ... show an incredible number of bands that no radio show EVER, before or after, has even come close to, and unlike many of the shows around the Internet, Guy has a touch for music and always seems to find some amazing things, and play them, and he genuinely enjoys and appreciates a lot of this music, which is to say a hell of a lot more than most "DJ's" around the Internet that think they represent "progressive" music.

There are many things I have heard that I didn't get, as the money was limited (imports were expensive!!), and it was nice to see them listed and considered ... but I do not have them in my collection, and even though I have heard them since, I still have not added them.

All in all, I would say that having been one of the few folks (along with Guy) that was not afraid to play the NEW MATERIAL and show it to an audience, really means that we missed very few opportunities since then ... but yes, there is always one or two bands missing, and in my case, believe it or not, it is almost always some American band ... !!! But when it came to a lot of European materials, we probably had for a while the best collection of music in the West Coast. And it really was more "thorough" than today's "collecto'files" whose tastes tend to be oriented to their favorite style, Rio, this or that. We had them all!


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For me there are plenty that I know well from back when I first became a zombie prog pod person (1978) and plenty I could still discover. As of late I have been focused on the newer arrivals and chronologically working my way through my collection (the year is no 2010).
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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