Black Sabbath, the unsung prog trailblazers

AZF wrote: It'll probably have dismissals of "Yeah, but Bill Ward wasn't on it" but "13". I recently listened to it, a good couple of times. Never left a better studio album they could have gone out on. Too bad never saw them live.

For sure !! 13 is pretty special. Wilkes did his best Ward. Passable. Great album. Love Sabbath till death.

Still say the Grateful Dead is THE most progressive band to ever exist - still doesn't make 'em a prog band (though I still say they should be on PA, if only to allow the uninitiated a guidepost).  

The first time I heard Lights Out that's exactly what I did. Shut the stereo off and put out the lights.

Edited by SteveG - February 27 2020 at 09:44

LAM-SGC wrote: dr wu23 wrote: The first 2 UFO are interesting ,,,perhaps prog related , though there are 2 very long songs on UFO 2.... I've owned those two albums for years, and I hear nothing prog on them at all. Long songs and blues rock jams are not prog. If you think early UFO are prog, so then are Cream,Hendrix, Blind Faith, Blue Cheer, Vanilla Fudge, Led Zeppelin,Iron Butterfly, Spirit, Whitesnake and so on.

The first 2 UFO are interesting ,,,perhaps prog related , though there are 2 very long songs on UFO 2....

Edited by dr wu23 - February 27 2020 at 08:08

LAM-SGC wrote: Even the first two UFO, weren't half as spacey as the covers and song titles promised, in fact Early UFO, before MS, were pretty much a meat & potatoes hard rock band, and as well as their own stuff they played far too high a percentage of covers of 50s rock n roll songs and 60s rock. They weren't even close to prog and when MS joined they moved even further away from it. A case can be made for UH, WA, DP, Rainbow and even early Scorpions but not UFO, LZ, BS, TL or Queen.

Sean Trane wrote: Psychedelic Paul wrote: It makes me wonder now if the Hard Rock bands Led Zeppelin, UFO and Uriah Heep are included here too, but maybe that would be too much to hope for.   If Tangerine Dream, Mike Oldfield and Vangelis are all included on ProgArchives too, then that would really make my evening. Zep & Heep are in Not sure about UFO... their first four that are Space Rock could be, but it was a little basic, but their Hard AOR doesn't So are Newpasture, Tangerine & Vangelis Maybe you oughta explore a little the DB, instead of posting 135 times a day in here

Edited by Psychedelic Paul - February 26 2020 at 04:41

Even the first two UFO, weren't half as spacey as the covers and song titles promised, in fact Early UFO, before MS, were pretty much a meat & potatoes hard rock band, and as well as their own stuff they played far too high a percentage of covers of 50s rock n roll songs and 60s rock. They weren't even close to prog and when MS joined they moved even further away from it.

A case can be made for UH, WA, DP, Rainbow and even early Scorpions but not UFO, LZ, BS, TL or Queen.

Edited by LAM-SGC - February 25 2020 at 11:43

As a serious heavy metaller and hard rocker rather than a progger I say that Rush made three hard rock albums, their fourth one was completely different, it was not hard rock it was prog and they remained prog.

Yup, 2112 was only a little pregnant.