Why is the Soft Machine missing in the Top 100?

Guldbamsen wrote: Junges wrote: 1- Because it is not your top 100. 2- Because it is based on ratings. 3- Because tastes are subjective. 4- Because you could make a thread about any other band that you enjoy and is not in the top 100 5- Because I thought everything listed above was obvious already? Pretty much We all have our faves and some of these are not universally revered. 4) in particular drives this fact home. I’ve seen this type of thread for a LOT of bands ranging from Van Damme Generator, Gentle Giant, ELP and even Genesis to Barclay James Harvest, Nektar, Kansas and Can. When you’re a huge fan of X band and consider it to be one of the seminal acts - and you don’t see any of their albums in the top 100...you either start a thread like this or play said album to your spouse and learn firsthand about different tastebuds

The Dark Elf wrote: richardh wrote: The other thing that occurred to me is that albums become a lot less memorable when they don't have a proper name. I really hate it when artists just go 1,2,3 etc. WTF . Pick a proper name ffs. For this reason I'm more likely to play Bundles than an album just called 3 or Third. If an album is great, it can be nameless and no one cares (like Led Zeppelin ZoSo or IV or whatever it is). And Black Sabbath Vol. 4 is and always will be Black Sabbath Vol. 4 (and you can picture the album cover as soon as you mention Vol. 4). Of course, Led Zeppelin I, II or III come to mind as albums one knows right off the bat as not needing a proper title. But it can get out of hand. Once you get past the first VI or VII Chicago albums, it gets confusing. I think they're up to XXXVI or something. One needs an abacus after a while.

 

1- Because it is not your top 100.

richardh wrote: The other thing that occurred to me is that albums become a lot less memorable when they don't have a proper name. I really hate it when artists just go 1,2,3 etc. WTF . Pick a proper name ffs. For this reason I'm more likely to play Bundles than an album just called 3 or Third.

The top 100 has a lot to do with knownness. Third is a masterpiece to me, and I love the first three albums especially, but I also like subsequent ones. I think Soft Machine has not been as popular because it is not as easily accessible for most. It's not been as mainstream to my knowledge. I'd say Caravan is the most known, and Camel too for those who include it as some do, as part of the Canterbury Scene/ Sound.

While Third would make my top 100, I wouldn't expect it to make most Prog fans top 100. For me that albums took a while to fully open up. I loved ""Slightly All the Time" from fist spin, but the rest not as much. Then "Moon in June" became my favourite (still is one of my favourite "songs") and I loved "Out-Bloody-Rageous" but "Facelift" left me cold.

As mentioned, it's just doesn't have as many ratings as the top 100 albums do. Since I use customised filters when using the chart, it likely will show up when I search it.

James, I know you stated in one of my topics CLICK that you find "RYM's ranking to be completely arbitrary and worthless", but it's interesting that the Progressive Rock chart at RYM (using progressive rock as a filter since it's a general music site) has Third ranked at number 25, the debut at 97 and the second at 101. Not that ratings are of much value to me, other than how I rate (i.e. value) something (and that itself is subject to change).

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richardh wrote: Going from my experience its completely pointless trying to have a dialogue with 'Pedro' ( I don't even know where that nickname came from). I find most of his stuff just a load of patronising gibberish even if he obviously has a really good detailed knowledge of prog rock. Just a crying shame that he is had to derail so many threads. I wonder why Admin tolerates this nonsense quite frankly.

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Edited by Grubert - February 11 2020 at 05:53

RE^

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