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The best albums ELP never made
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Poll Question: ..but wish they had?!
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5 [11.90%]
10 [23.81%]
4 [9.52%]
1 [2.38%]
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3 [7.14%]
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3 [7.14%]
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Great comments and interesting to see Triumvirate leading the race although maybe not surprising as its such a complete and well thought out album. Near perfect. I should have included Triade in the list but as I mentioned I can easily forget stuff nowadays. I did think of Par Lindh as he is a massive ELP fan but the only album of his that feels like a 'lost ELP album' is Time Mirror and that is a bit weak compared to his mighty other efforts. This only came about because Magda Berg had sadly left the world so he decided that the time (no pun intended) was right for it. Mastermind - yep I have the debut album and it does have some obvious ELP references but not enough for inclusion imo. Good album though. I never checked out anything else by them though and I'm guessing their CD's are probably deleted and very rare.

I need to check out the 'other' suggestions . Thanks. 
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Originally posted by Neu!mann Neu!mann wrote:

"Hello! I'd like a Double Dimple..!"

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Great album. 
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"Hello! I'd like a Double Dimple..!"
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Of course Rick van der Linden also had his own style. Moreover sometimes he used funky clavinet (like in Commodores "Machine Gun") which added even more diversity. I like it very much.

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For the "best album ELP never made," there would have to be a strong vocalist and great SONGS, dynamic and powerful drumming, and the requisite monster keyboard talent.

From this poll, the obvious answer for me is Danger Money. U.K. certainly stepped up to fill the void left by ELP after the latter hung their collective hats with Love Beach.
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Originally posted by HarryAngel746 HarryAngel746 wrote:

Hmm for me the title "The best album ELP never made" goes to CHIMERA from 1974 by DUNCAN MACKAY.
This is a very rich, intensive album full of keyboard virtuosity and dynamic drums.
There are countless types of keyboards they used, which brings to mind the splendor of Karn Evil.

And of those mentioned it's definitely Trace. Rick van der Linden does amazing things on it - in the spirit of Bach (and so Emerson). Album from 1974 is also great - if not even better.
 

Great to see Mackay's Chimera and Trace mentioned. I prefer Trace's Birds (second album). Rick van der Linden is no Keith wannabe, either. They're equals.
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Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

now, cmon, Smogmagica is worth another try by you, since just the title alone is brilliant Big smile

Okay...a new approach and it must have been quite a shock and a huge disappointment for the fans when they heard it back in 75. It could have worked but sadly the material here is not strong enough, for completists only. The next one will be more satisfying and they will return even stronger with 'Storia O Leggenda'. At least they tried something new and I must give them credit for that.
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My favorites off the list are Refugee and Illusions.

Not off the list:
Skaldowie - Krywań Krywań (1972)
Tritonus - S/T (1975)
Welcome - S/T (1976).

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Hmm for me the title "The best album ELP never made" goes to CHIMERA from 1974 by DUNCAN MACKAY.
This is a very rich, intensive album full of keyboard virtuosity and dynamic drums.
There are countless types of keyboards they used, which brings to mind the splendor of Karn Evil.

And of those mentioned it's definitely Trace. Rick van der Linden does amazing things on it - in the spirit of Bach (and so Emerson). Album from 1974 is also great - if not even better.
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Originally posted by Barbu Barbu wrote:

^ I will. My problem with it is it's inconsistency. 2 or 3 very good tracks, 2 or 3 very average and a couple of awful ones...and using the skip button every 2 tracks is never a good sign.

Frutto Acerbo, maaan!

yes Frutto is awesome
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^ I will. My problem with it is it's inconsistency. 2 or 3 very good tracks, 2 or 3 very average and a couple of awful ones...and using the skip button every 2 tracks is never a good sign.

Frutto Acerbo, maaan!

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Originally posted by Barbu Barbu wrote:

I just gave a listen to Contappunti and it's quite surprising that you couldn't get into it, Ken. The first track sounds heavily like ELP (not as much as Papillon par contre haha) but the rest is classic Orme sounding to these ears. but to each his own, of course...a solid four for me.

well, I'll give it another try!
now, cmon, Smogmagica is worth another try by you, since just the title alone is brilliant Big smile
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Some not mentioned yet

The Trip-Atlantide and Time Of Change

Triade-La Storia di Sabazio

The Pink Mice-In Action

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I just gave a listen to Contappunti and it's quite surprising that you couldn't get into it, Ken. The first track sounds heavily and excellently like ELP (not as much as the awesome Papillon par contre haha) but the rest is classic Orme sounding to these ears. but to each his own, of course...a solid four for me.

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Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:


but I have...I know a lot of people rate Contrappunti very highly but I couldn't get into it.  Smogmagica isn't great but I didn't mind it as much


2 stars for Contrappunti ??? Shocked
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Not sure about ELP in this respect, but I like Felona e Sorona and Darwin! most of these (of the 8 I know that is). Vote goes to Le Orme. Obviously the best album that ELP never made is the best album of all time (whatever that is for you), but I guess this is not what richardh wanted us to write.


Edited by Lewian - September 18 2019 at 11:39
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I thought no one on this Earth remembered Cairo! It produced great keyboard-oriented prog. If only it would have lasted more, and if only the label would have made them more publicity!
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Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

Originally posted by Barbu Barbu wrote:

^ You clearly haven't heard Smogmagica.

Contra is pretty solid imo and Smog is definitely their weakest.


but I have...I know a lot of people rate Contrappunti very highly but I couldn't get into it.  Smogmagica isn't great but I didn't mind it as much


Not even 'Frutto Acerbo'?! Delightful Orme.
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Originally posted by Barbu Barbu wrote:

^ You clearly haven't heard Smogmagica.

Contra is pretty solid imo and Smog is definitely their weakest.

but I have...I know a lot of people rate Contrappunti very highly but I couldn't get into it.  Smogmagica isn't great but I didn't mind it as much
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