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Because underrated is not the same as unknown or little known, but that people who know them don't give the band enough merit and/or appreciation, then I might expect that the most underrated band might also be the most overrated band when judging the numbers of people who actively rate them (i.e. judge the quality etc.) period. If one considers Pink Floyd to be Prog, then maybe Pink Floyd. I don't know or really care much actually. From a rather different angle, while I don't much like ELP's music generally (most enjoy the debut), I do recognise it as being very significant to Prog and 70s rock, and I expect that is name that has come up because it seems very unfashionable these days and may not get the respect that many others think the band deserves. One can respect a band without liking it, of course.

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Another one worth mentioning is White Willow. They never got the recognition of Anekdoten, Wobbler or Anglagard but they have some very good stuff. I think because they kind of disappeared is sort of why they have been swept under the carpet.
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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

I always thought Happy The Man deserved more notice.
They don;t have any 4 star ratings though I feel the first two deserve  that.


I remember when I first got online in the late 90s and started looking up prog and going on the newsgroups HTM were actually talked about very highly and some even called them the greatest US prog band. However, these days they are rarely mentioned especially on this website which is a shame. 

Another band that has been even more "lost in the sauce" than Happy the Man are Mastermind. They were for a little while one of the leading US prog bands back in the 90s but then at some point they all but disappeared. Rich Berends now plays a version of his band in South America so technically they live on but they haven't received the credit they deserve in a very long time. 
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Volume 2: Brainstorm. I actually need to revisit them myself but that one contains some pretty amazing stuff imo. The first one (volume 1) is good too. They might actually be among the first prog albums to incorporate elements of prog metal without actually being prog metal. Of course there's a big ELP influence too. 


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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Rush are underrated. By me.

Whilst I personally underrate Opeth to an astonishing degree... LOL
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Rush are underrated. By me.
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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

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I would recommend Excelsior (album).

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^ I rated Death's Crown five stars back in '06
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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

I always thought Happy The Man deserved more notice.
They don't have any 4 star ratings though I feel the first two deserve  that.


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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

I always thought Happy The Man deserved more notice.
They don;t have any 4 star ratings though I feel the first two deserve  that.


I remember when I first got online in the late 90s and started looking up prog and going on the newsgroups HTM were actually talked about very highly and some even called them the greatest US prog band. However, these days they are rarely mentioned especially on this website which is a shame. 

Another band that has been even more "lost in the sauce" than Happy the Man are Mastermind. They were for a little while one of the leading US prog bands back in the 90s but then at some point they all but disappeared. Rich Berends now plays a version of his band in South America so technically they live on but they haven't received the credit they deserve in a very long time. 
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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

I always thought Happy The Man deserved more notice.
They don;t have any 4 star ratings though I feel the first two deserve  that.


I remember when I first got online in the late 90s and started looking up prog and going on the newsgroups HTM were actually talked about very highly and some even called them the greatest US prog band. However, these days they are rarely mentioned especially on this website which is a shame. 

Another band that has been even more "lost in the sauce" than Happy the Man are Mastermind. They were for a little while one of the leading US prog bands back in the 90s but then at some point they all but disappeared. Rich Berends now plays a version of his band in South America so technically they live on but they haven't received the credit they deserve in a very long time. 
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I always thought Happy The Man deserved more notice.
They don;t have any 4 star ratings though I feel the first two deserve  that.
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Spock's Beard.
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Gentle Giant.
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The most underrated prog band, in my opinion, is Galahad.
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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

What's the difference then between "I believe it's so good that it should be rated higher" and "I like it a lot, and many don't"?

There isn't any difference, but in order to rate you need to listen to these bands and unfortunately once you get past the major prog bands who listens to any others. Those bands underrated are usually those that people don't listen to. 
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Originally posted by Spacegod87 Spacegod87 wrote:

Most prog bands are highly underrated..

But I guess the obvious answer would be Gentle Giant (although even they're mainstream compared to a lot of other prog bands)

I would put Camel in the same boat as well.
Gentle Giant is the obvious one, but in recent times definitely Spock's Beard who haven't received due recognition since Neal Morse left the band. Ryo Okumoto I would rate the best Mellotron player in the world today.
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Originally posted by Machinemessiah Machinemessiah wrote:

For me it is Maxophone...


Although there appear to be only one album (or so) -their homonym- I find it highly enjoyable and well rounded: both the italian and the english lyrics versions alike; since this is an album where all songs are, IMO, of premium quality (something rare in albums from less well known bands, outside big six, etc., and a hallmark on the contrary); some are headbangable in the prog sense, some very delicate, with the finest classical guitar extracts and a falsetto which I yearn in more prog bands, so well employed (among other reasons, why I like Yes so much); others highlight the symphonic side, with horns and the like with a reference there to Bartok's Concerto for orchestra. But, when talking RPI, I miss it being mentioned more frequently alongside the Premiatas and the likes.

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Most prog bands are highly underrated..

But I guess the obvious answer would be Gentle Giant (although even they're mainstream compared to a lot of other prog bands)

I would put Camel in the same boat as well.
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Originally posted by Chaser Chaser wrote:

This one's been done before and it always prompts a debate about the meaning of "underrated".

I would say it's an artist who hasn't received the recognition they deserve in the prog community or the wider music press, as compared to other artists, based on the quality of their music.

Two obvious ones for me are Gentle Giant and Van der Graff Generator. They are not considered "big six" and yet, for me, their output was often better than some of the big six.

Quite literally came here to say this, and mention those two exact bands. 

So, thank you Clap Cool.

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