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gok22us
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Posted: October 12 2005 at 10:17 |
Well, it's really tough.
Close to the Edge, was the track that sold me to prog rock. It's genious, so cohesive, interesting musically, but so catchy. Very accessible, but not shabby musically either.
Suppers Ready, is also absolute genious. The song is very intense, however, it doesn't seem as much as one song as it does 5 songs sewn together. That being said, it works EXTREMELY well. And Peter Gabriel is like the best vocalist in prog.
All in all, i'll pick Close to the Edge because of the sheer immediate and lasting effect that the song has. However, i'm very unhappy calling Supper's Ready worse than anything.
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margaret
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Posted: October 12 2005 at 10:13 |
rushfann2112 wrote:
i say CttE...ive only heard Suppers Ready once....so if anyone wants to hook me up.... |
do youself a big favor and pick up Genesis - Foxtrot. It's not that expensive ($11-$12 last time I saw it, and you'll find some great stuff in addition to Supper's Ready. An excellent album.
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Space is dark it is so endless
When you're lost it's so relentless
It is so big, it is small
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rushfann2112
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Posted: October 12 2005 at 09:43 |
i say CttE...ive only heard Suppers Ready once....so if anyone wants to hook me up....
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margaret
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Posted: October 12 2005 at 07:27 |
now that's a toughie
Supper's Ready - favorite
Close to the Edge - better (stronger musically, a better 'composition' not just another tape and splice epic made up of multiple songs fragments. Close to Edge 'flows'....)
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Space is dark it is so endless
When you're lost it's so relentless
It is so big, it is small
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Dragon Phoenix
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Posted: October 12 2005 at 07:19 |
39-39 now.
I saw the CttE/SOYCD before this one. Also this is a match between two 10/10 songs in my book, but current ranking has Supper at #93 versus #168 for CttE.
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fender101
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Posted: October 12 2005 at 00:41 |
eduardossc wrote:
Letīs compare:
Vocals: Peter Gabriel.- The most theatrical and expressive vocalist in the prog world ever
Jon Anderson.- The least expressive
Lyrics: Close to the edge: "Close to the edge down by the corner, close to the edge down by the river", "Close to the edge down by the corner, close to the edge down by the river", "Close to the edge down by the corner, close to the edge down by the river", "Close to the edge down by the corner, close to the edge down by the river",
"I get up I get down, I get up I get down, I get up I get down, I get up I get down, I get up I get down,"I get up I get down, I get up I get down, I get up I get down, I get up I get down, I get up I get down, I get up I get down, I get up I get down, I get up I get down, I get up I get down, I get up I get down, I get up I get down, .
Supperīs ready: With the guards of magog, swarming around, The pied piper takes his children underground. Dragons coming out of the sea, Shimmering silver head of wisdom looking at me. He brings down the fire from the skies, You can tell he's doing well by the look in human eyes. Better not compromise. It won't be easy.
666 is no longer alone, He's getting out the marrow in your back bone, And the seven trumpets blowing sweet rock and roll, Gonna blow right down inside your soul. Pythagoras with the looking glass reflects the full moon, In blood, he's writing the lyrics of a brand new tune.
And it's hey babe, with your guardian eyes so blue, Hey my baby, don't you know our love is true, I've been so far from here, Far from your loving arms, Now i'm back again, and babe it's gonna work out fine.
Songwriting: (Includes creativity, innovation, song structure)
Close to the edge: An 18 minutes Prog-pop song. With the structure of a conventional pop song. Simple line catchy Choruses repeated over and over. Repeated themes more than once. Simplistic middle section of 5 minutes with yet simplier chorus repeated for a hundred times.
Supperīs ready: Full of diferent images, moods, ideas, concepts, sounds, feelings..you name it. Not a single second wasted with no music like "I get up I get down".
Supperīs ready never repeats a single word. Or at least, they donīt do it with the intention of making it catchy, as a pop band would.
It may well be considered a 23 minutes song made out of 5 different songs, yes. However, Iīd rather listen to these 23 minutes of creativity than to a 3-chorus-driven-18-minutes-pop-song with great playing. Plus, there is nothing as original and bizarre in "Close" as "Apocalypse in 9/8".
Playing: YES thinks playing music is an olympic discipline. Still, itīs not that impressive when you realize the strongest aspect of their playing is the individual playing. Every single instrument sounds clean and perfect, strong and powerful. However, after paying attention youīll reallize the instrumentals are always driven by this drum and bass layer that work as base for the multi notes per second of Wakeman all over. Pay attention to the Bass and drums, they never change dramatically to shift the direction of the instrumentals. I repeat, everything sounds great but itīs not as complex as many argue.
About Genesisīplaying. They may never show off. They may even could have not. Still, they are not any "one arm musicians" either. Yet, I think the instrumental in "apocalypse" is played in a more interesting way as a team than anything in "Close".
So, a 3-1 score for "Supperīs ready". Vs. the multi commented PROG-POP song "Close to the edge"
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EXCELLENT REVIEW!!!
I vote for CTTE!! 39-38
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Well McGarnical Billy is dead! They slit his throat from ear to ear!
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Yams
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Posted: October 11 2005 at 18:04 |
I can't decide and you can't make me.
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BleedingGum
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Posted: October 11 2005 at 16:51 |
Supper's Ready for me.
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...this is called....BleedingGum ... !
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Moogtron III
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Posted: October 11 2005 at 16:47 |
Tough one, but for me Close To The Edge. But it's another Battle Of The Giants.
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el axel
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Posted: October 11 2005 at 13:03 |
close to the edge definitelly, and i think it's not about a group, it's about a song, i really don't love a group, i love their music, if i would like to be a fan of a group, and not admire them cause of their music, i would be a backstreet boy fan.
a music lover, a life lover & nbsp; axel
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eduardossc
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Posted: October 11 2005 at 11:27 |
Letīs compare:
Vocals: Peter Gabriel.- The most theatrical and expressive vocalist in the prog world ever
Jon Anderson.- The least expressive
Lyrics: Close to the edge: "Close to the edge down by the corner, close to the edge down by the river", "Close to the edge down by the corner, close to the edge down by the river", "Close to the edge down by the corner, close to the edge down by the river", "Close to the edge down by the corner, close to the edge down by the river",
"I get up I get down, I get up I get down, I get up I get down, I get up I get down, I get up I get down,"I get up I get down, I get up I get down, I get up I get down, I get up I get down, I get up I get down, I get up I get down, I get up I get down, I get up I get down, I get up I get down, I get up I get down, I get up I get down, .
Supperīs ready: With the guards of magog, swarming around, The pied piper takes his children underground. Dragons coming out of the sea, Shimmering silver head of wisdom looking at me. He brings down the fire from the skies, You can tell he's doing well by the look in human eyes. Better not compromise. It won't be easy.
666 is no longer alone, He's getting out the marrow in your back bone, And the seven trumpets blowing sweet rock and roll, Gonna blow right down inside your soul. Pythagoras with the looking glass reflects the full moon, In blood, he's writing the lyrics of a brand new tune.
And it's hey babe, with your guardian eyes so blue, Hey my baby, don't you know our love is true, I've been so far from here, Far from your loving arms, Now i'm back again, and babe it's gonna work out fine.
Songwriting: (Includes creativity, innovation, song structure)
Close to the edge: An 18 minutes Prog-pop song. With the structure of a conventional pop song. Simple line catchy Choruses repeated over and over. Repeated themes more than once. Simplistic middle section of 5 minutes with yet simplier chorus repeated for a hundred times.
Supperīs ready: Full of diferent images, moods, ideas, concepts, sounds, feelings..you name it. Not a single second wasted with no music like "I get up I get down".
Supperīs ready never repeats a single word. Or at least, they donīt do it with the intention of making it catchy, as a pop band would.
It may well be considered a 23 minutes song made out of 5 different songs, yes. However, Iīd rather listen to these 23 minutes of creativity than to a 3-chorus-driven-18-minutes-pop-song with great playing. Plus, there is nothing as original and bizarre in "Close" as "Apocalypse in 9/8".
Playing: YES thinks playing music is an olympic discipline. Still, itīs not that impressive when you realize the strongest aspect of their playing is the individual playing. Every single instrument sounds clean and perfect, strong and powerful. However, after paying attention youīll reallize the instrumentals are always driven by this drum and bass layer that work as base for the multi notes per second of Wakeman all over. Pay attention to the Bass and drums, they never change dramatically to shift the direction of the instrumentals. I repeat, everything sounds great but itīs not as complex as many argue.
About Genesisīplaying. They may never show off. They may even could have not. Still, they are not any "one arm musicians" either. Yet, I think the instrumental in "apocalypse" is played in a more interesting way as a team than anything in "Close".
So, a 3-1 score for "Supperīs ready". Vs. the multi commented PROG-POP song "Close to the edge"
Edited by eduardossc
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Jared
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Posted: October 11 2005 at 08:50 |
CTTE...
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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eduardossc
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Posted: October 11 2005 at 08:42 |
Another Close to the edge match?. Whatīs the deal ?.
Iīll choose Close to the edge when someone compares it to either "Atom heart mother", "Pigs", "Sheep", "Lizard", ..."Gates of delirium"
But this time Vs. "Supperīs ready" ?. Iīll come back later to be more explicit, although Iīve already writen enough of "Close" in other Polls
Edited by eduardossc
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Cygnus
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Posted: October 11 2005 at 02:56 |
I love them both. Supper's ready has some realy strong parts but CTTE is more "focused" for me. I mean it is one song not a collection...
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ClemofNazareth
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Posted: October 10 2005 at 22:42 |
Yeah, I don't get it.....
But your avatar is really funny!
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"Peace is the only battle worth waging."
Albert Camus
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BePinkTheater
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Posted: October 10 2005 at 22:35 |
it was 21-21.....then i voted .....
putting one song in the lead.....
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CTTE!!!!!!!!!!
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I can strangle a canary in a tin can and it would be really original, but that wouldn't save it from sounding like utter sh*t.
-Stone Beard
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Pr@gmatic
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Posted: October 10 2005 at 12:39 |
CTTE
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Prodigal
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Posted: September 18 2005 at 15:47 |
"Close To The Edge" should be the national anthem of Progland.
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TheMusicalBox
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Posted: September 18 2005 at 13:52 |
TheProgtologist wrote:
Very,very tough choice,I like them both very much,but if I have to pick one I'll pick CTTE. |
hard choice
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Mategra
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Posted: September 18 2005 at 07:18 |
Supper's Ready!
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