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From the list .....Ben Hur.....Last Temptation....
but I would mention The Greatest Story Ever Told with Max Von Sydow and King of Kings with Jeffrey Hunter.
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From the list...not sure, Last Temptation maybe.

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Hi,

Ingmar Bergman is an interesting dilemma for me. I like him and I don't like him. There are several things that are "overdone" for me, and I always thought that the symbolic nature of "The Seventh Seal" was over done and over "bearing" for me, just like his living room and family dramas. My father wrote many reviews about his films, that were truncated and cut up by Portuguese sensors, though most of the stuff they censored was about the American and English films and of course folks like Fellini and Bunuel.

There are some nice things out of his work though ... one of his sons (Daniel) made a film ... SUNDAY'S CHILDREN that was very much about the family thing and then they would break for church on Sunday, and of course, they did not match. It was a bit of a slow film that relied on dialogue (like Bergman), and I caught it on the Film Festival. I think that the film would make more sense for me now if I saw it and was able to compare it to his father's work better.

Another person that also made a film that does not specifically deal with "religion" is Sven Nykvist's (the cinematographer) THE OX, which deals mostly with the character being ashamed of what he did and not being able to deal with it. It is visually stunning!


Edited by moshkito - August 02 2018 at 22:58
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Voting for 5 of my very favourite films: Andrei Rublev, The Seventh Seal, Ordet, Aguirre and the Passion of Joan of Arc.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2018 at 07:15
Oh, that's one I've heard great things about. Just starting on it, and can see that I will love that one. Thanks. The kids and wife are flying off in a couple of weeks, and then I'll watch it on the big screen (well, my big screen TV).
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Saperlipopette! Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2018 at 06:01
Another favorite of mine is Alex van Warmerdams darkly absurd and eerie The Northerners (De Noorderlingen) set in in the middle of nowhere/weirdsville/somewhere in the 1960's Netherlands - including a sainthood among many other things. As most great art its kind of fun as well.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2018 at 05:09
I really liked El Topo, although Holy Mountain has the advantage of being a more recent to me watch. Incidentally, since I caught your comment on Graphic Novels. Quoted from IMDB:

Quote Jodorowsky has done a series of graphic novels in collaboration with the celebrated French comic artist Moebius. The novels are called "The Adventures of John Difool" and depict the adventures of a small- time private detective, who gets unwillingly involved in a battle of cosmic dimensions. The story, written by Jodorowsky, is complex and rich with insights into the problems of modern life and alienation. From the opening scene at Suicide Alley, a place where suicide epidemics frequently break out in the sullen nameless city where Difool lives, to the closing scene, also at Suicide Alley, the reader follows Difool in an adventure to first understand, and then fight for, peace and freedom in the universe. A deep and recurring message of the story is that no understanding of the human nature can be achieved via separation of the good from the evil.


As for some others you've mentioned. I'm sure we've discussed Bedazzled before and that is another I wish had occurred to me. I love that film (not the remake, which I've also seen). It's a film my dad caught on TV later than I had seen it, and was talking to me about how much he liked it (my mum got to know Cook and Moore quite well I think when Julie Christey was her roommate).

This isn't interesting, but I particularly loved Bedazzled because I caught it in 1995 when living in Japan very late night on TV. It was the first English language film I caught on TV there that had subtitles (after that, I always stayed up really late on Saturday nights to watch the films). A couple of years later my dad caught it on TV and was raving about it to me. I loved the songs part of that film. More's character with "Love Me" and then the Devil upstaging him with his opposite and more popular approach. It's one of my favourite comedies (If I haven't done it in a poll here, I'm sure I have at another forum). Maybe I will do a comedy film one -- most of my favourite comedies are British).

Most of the others you've named I have seen (I don;t catch as films as I used to). The Name of the Rose I'm sure I thought of it but forgot as I knocked this poll off, but forgot to include.

Umberto Eco is an author I have liked very much (especially Foucault's Pendulum). I should start reading more again (I'm at the point of needing reading glasses, but not used to them so I never use them except for small print).

Thanks for the well-thought out posts, Pedro.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote moshkito Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2018 at 23:28
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Holy Mountain is a great film, and I wish I'd included it. That's the kind of film that this poll should have been all about I think.

I think EL TOPO is a much better and interesting film than THE HOLY MOUNTAIN. However, like a couple of his other films, these are a bit on the weird side of things with great images all around, which sometimes are simply a take on various religious/spiritual themes, which my thoughts are sometimes that it is mostly not satirical, but a sort of ... what if ... kind of thing which makes it interesting.

Hard to not mention also that there are several films that deal with the dark themes, and at least a couple based on Dennis Wheatley's novels. (Look them up DarkElf ... Christopher Lee is in two of them!)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote moshkito Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2018 at 23:17
Hi,

A couple of other films.

Bedazzled
Cabeza de Vaca
Cradle song (Cancion de Cuna)
Ghandi
Knockin' On Heaven's Door (German Film)
Little Buddha
Ridicule
Temptations of a Monk
The Name of the Rose
The Scarlet Letter

PC and DM's ultimate satire and comedy is very strong and almost takes the title as the best of them all ... the lines themselves are incredible and the whole thing is very well written ... and you must pay attention to the ending and the whole St Peter thing ... it's totally on it, and so with it!

Kinda difficult to choose one, and specially in this list would have been a lot of LUIS BUNUEL, although a lot of his work is mostly referential and "atomic", but things like NAZARIN, SIMON OF THE DESERT, and of course the famous last supper scene, more than make it for him. And dig the incredible dig on religion in the last film ... it's amazing, and specially so at the time it was done.

It really brings up the image of the GOYA painting that he illustrated in the film ... even if in that image it is not a religious thing, in the end ... it is the same thing and feeling.

LUIS, was never "against" religion per se ... as his friend states (a Dominican Friar!) ... (paraphrased) Luis likes to tease you and make sure you know and understand why you believe what you believe ... that is what his films are about! He's merely making sure I know what I am believing!

But even Nicolas Roeg has done various things dealing with religion and faith in his films, and has had several biblical pieces (I have never seen them!) done as well. Seems off kilter here, but I doubt it, since a lot of his work was looking for something "deeper" in life.


Edited by moshkito - August 01 2018 at 23:19
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^ Yeah, Ustinov and Curtis. The yin and yang of acting! Lol!

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Dark Elf Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 31 2018 at 19:00
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Agree 100%. Ustinov was also outstanding in Spartacus and helped to make that movie a classic.

And Tony Curtis, whose mellifluous Shakespearean locution is unparalleled in cinema:

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 31 2018 at 11:18
Indeed.

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Oh, and I did think about adding Melancholia, a film I love, but opted not to, will add, but I'll add it to the Breaking the Waves option. Lots of von Trier could fit methinks.
Breaking the Waves is perhaps the (more) obvious choice but its just not among my personal favorites. But yeah Von Trier is one of the last serious artists (that gets any attention) in the seemingly brain drained movie business.


Breaking the Waves was one of the first films I saw with my now wife in the cinema, so it has sentimental value for me. The interstices with the music in the movie helped to make the movie special (love how he did that and it's interesting how it relates to Dogme 95 principles). It's one of my wife's very favourite films.

We used to go see movies all the time, but that stopped when we moved farther out from the city. I have to travel quite some distance to see such films in the cinema now. I loved his Dancer in the Dark (with Bjork for those that don't know), and that as well as Melancholia, did get a pretty wide release. Love the Kingdom, and love The Element of Crime and Europa. He's hit and miss for me in terms of enjoyment. I didn't enjoy Nymphomaniac, but perhaps one is not supposed to (will try again with more of an open mind -- he can do some pretty unpleasant stuff, and I was disappointed with the Idiots when it came out (maybe just cause I had different expectatations and was into different kinds of film at the time).

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^not that one needs Religious or Spiritual Themes or Refs to be considered serious
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Oh, and I did think about adding Melancholia, a film I love, but opted not to, will add, but I'll add it to the Breaking the Waves option. Lots of von Trier could fit methinks.
Breaking the Waves is perhaps the (more) obvious choice but its just not among my personal favorites. But yeah Von Trier is one of the last serious artists (that gets any attention) in the seemingly brain drained movie business.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 31 2018 at 10:30
I think I'm going to edit in suggestions to the list plus some more of my own. I especially think I should of thought of Holy Mountain and Haxan. And I'm adding "De vierde Man" as The Fourth Man.

Despite TheDarkElf's apparent sarcastic tone (genuinely love his acerbic and often dry sense of humour) about A Man For All Seasons, a film about Thomas More, does fit, so I'm adding it.

And I will add The Little Prince and Narnia films

There's one in particular I thought about adding called Tree of Life when I made the poll which has a definite connection to religion beyond just the title (which comes from the Bible). I'm adding it too.

I'm tempted to add Conan The Barbarian, but I won't (at least not now). ;)

Oh, and I did think about adding Melancholia, a film I love, but opted not to (or more accurately, I was thinking about it, moved on, and then forgot about it, which happens to me a lot these days), will add, but I'll add it to the Breaking the Waves option. Lots of von Trier could fit methinks.

EDIT: Done those additions, think I got them all (not necessarily paired well, but...)

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Saperlipopette! Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 31 2018 at 10:25
Could have voted for Antichrist*/The Exorcist if it wasn't paired with The Exorcist or any of The Omens as I think The Omen is just OK and the follow-up was terrible - and I never bothered with the last.

*Guess i would have paired it with Melancholia as I consider it Von Trier's take on Book of Revelation/Apocalypse of John - to an extent. And also a favorite of mine.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Saperlipopette! Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 31 2018 at 10:18
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Good call on Haxan, and that's one I should thought of being such a big Art Zoyd fan. By the way, like my other recent polls, this one is multiple choice, so you don't have to choose any one over the others (vote for as many as you like).
Oh right. I'll start my votes then. Saw Haxan accompanied by something of a electronic/experimental live performance a couple of years ago - which was fantastic. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 31 2018 at 10:06
Good call on Haxan, and that's one I should thought of being such a big Art Zoyd fan. By the way, like my other recent polls, this one is multiple choice, so you don't have to choose any one over the others (vote for as many as you like).

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Saperlipopette! Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 31 2018 at 09:56
As:
Andrei Rublev
Aguirre, the Wrath of God
Monty Python's Life of Brian (& Holy Grail or Meaning of Life really)
+Antichrist & Wicker Man (although I guess the three first has had a stronger impact on my life) are all among my favourite films ever, I can't really vote for one of them over the others. 

I'd add the 1922 movie Haxan if it was my poll.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SteveG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 31 2018 at 08:18
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Though I love the Wicker Man (I wish that Comus did the s/t music), I have to emphasize Scorsese's The Last Temptation of Christ which is not listed. The movie, like the novel, works on so some many levels, that its mind blowing. When St. Paul tells Defoe's Christ that he would have invented Christ's death and resurrection in order to make believers happy, I cannot help feeling echoes of the truth in that statement. An amazing film that should really be on your list.


Comus and The Wicker I often compare (they really remind me of each other), but I really love the Wicker Man soundtrack. I only have about six albums on my new phone, one is First Utterance and another is The Wicker Man soundtrack. As for The Last Temptation of Christ, I did list it (may be hard to spot tucked between Quo Vadis and The Apostle). I like the film a great deal, and, rather like with Life of Brian, I thought the level of controversy and reaction surrounding it quite ridiculous even if not quite as ridiculous as, say, the reaction to the Muhammad cartoons.
Oops! I've always had a knack for missing the obvious. ;) I'm not dissing the Wicker Man soundtrack as it's a classic too, but come on, there's still nothing on Earth like Comus!
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