Steely Dan vs Supertramp

What ignorantly narrow views of Rush lyrics!

By limiting Peart to expressions of high school loserhood, you demonstrate ignorance of not only the depth, but also the breadth of his subject matter. Nobody, with the possible exception of Ian Anderson in Aqualung, has matched his treatises on the limits and harms of organized religion. No one else has so perfectly distilled the concept of fear itself and the many ways it manifests. Then you've got his very unique and thoughtful treatment of man's entry into the atomic age, and his positively brilliant use of the trees as a metaphor for affirmative action. All this, and soooooo much more. And within any given topic area, few can turn a phrase like he does.


Like him or not, theres mo denying bes got a far broader range of topic areas than most, and saying otherwise is just professed ignorance that casts doubt on any other analysis you might throw his way.

Yeah, actually the excessive use of profound sounding words is a good bullsh*t meter when it comes to literature, including lyrics. Fagen and Becker rarely resort to very complicated or grandiose expressions and yet make their lyrics hard to decipher. One can hold that crypticism against them for personal taste but nobody can argue Rush lyrics are actually more intelligent than Dan's.

yeah the best description I've read of Peart's lyrics, ie Rush's so called intellectualism is 'a lot of his lyrics read as Western Philosophy and the Human Condition for Dummies Too often, even in a lot of songs where I like his lyrics, I feel like I'm listening to the poetry of a high school Freshman who just bought The Dictionary of Cultural Literacy and a thesaurus'

^ hahah don't tell me you are going there with Rush are you.

IMO Steely Dan are the most intelligent, musical, rock, jazz, prog, crossover band of all time.

Supertramp!

neither

Supertramp

TCat wrote: In fact, without opinions, Prog might not even exist.

To not have opinions you'd have to not have humans. So I think you are right!

rogerthat wrote: TCat wrote: This one is tough, but I have to side with Supertramp because I love the fact that they are based more on piano.  Supertramp holds a lot of nostalgic value to me also.   Besides that, the "Crime of the Century" album excels in Progressiveness.  Very hard to beat that one. That is an interesting assertion because Dan is plenty piano based too.  Arguably their most beautiful song, Aja, has magical piano chords. And THEN, they had Larry Carlton on top of that.