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Bob Greece
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Posted: September 16 2005 at 08:32 |
Starette wrote:
I commend you on that quite heartily as I admire your determination in NOT allowing the depressing feelings that this conversation has given me to get through to you- as a lady.
Me....I'm depressed...People: the thoughts that my mind has given a chance to rise as a result of contemplating on this topic have made me SAD to be a GIRL! Logical reason= not known. Probably just a rush of estrogen....GAH! see what I mean????
*cries and listens to Nightwish and Curved Air to try and heal the wounds.*
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I can't see why you're depressed. Please don't waste any time being depressed! It certainly wasn't the intention of this thread. You should just like whatever music you like and don't care what others think. That's what I do - that's what everyone should do. Everybody is different - just be yourself and appreciate that.
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Starette
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Posted: September 16 2005 at 08:12 |
lacroix wrote:
Hmmm interesting statements. So what does that say about a female who loves prog?? That she not very feminine??? Here is one strong, self willed, AND feminine prog metal lover, that doesn´t really care about what others think of my musical preferences![](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif) |
![](smileys/smiley32.gif) ![](smileys/smiley32.gif) I commend you on that quite heartily as I admire your determination in NOT allowing the depressing feelings that this conversation has given me to get through to you- as a lady.
Me....I'm depressed...People: the thoughts that my mind has given a chance to rise as a result of contemplating on this topic have made me SAD to be a GIRL! Logical reason= not known. Probably just a rush of estrogen....GAH! see what I mean????
*cries and listens to Nightwish and Curved Air to try and heal the wounds.*
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lacroix
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Posted: September 16 2005 at 07:58 |
Hmmm interesting statements. So what does that say about a female who loves prog?? That she not very feminine??? Here is one strong, self willed, AND feminine prog metal lover, that doesn´t really care about what others think of my musical preferences
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Tiresias
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Posted: September 15 2005 at 21:31 |
I've met girls who like yes and floyd..
and a cute one who likes Bela Fleck (sort of out there)
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Posted: September 15 2005 at 20:39 |
My friend and i were discussing this very thing a few hours ago! haha. Anyway our theory is that most woman are more concerned about what people think of them and therefore will try and "fit in with the crowd" so until prog becomes popular most woman wont like it. Could be all wrong just my two cents.
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Wormboy
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Posted: September 15 2005 at 20:26 |
I knew I was in luck when I started dating a woman who had KC "Beat". I married her.
She's not much of a proggie, but at least she has some basics! ;)
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Flip_Stone
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Posted: September 15 2005 at 19:07 |
Seems simple to me. Most women want music that they can feel (a danceable beat, something bright and fun, something soft and intimate with words that they can relate, etc.)
Progressive rock is less about something to feel, and more about creativity and color and abstractness. Whereas women seem to be drawn to familiar songs, prog. rock goes for originality and unique approaches to music.
And who knows, maybe those long guitar solos, keyboard solos, and odd drum patterns appeal to something in the inner parts of men.
That's not so say that there isn't great prog. music with women members. Just check out Curved Air, Renaissance, and Kate Bush.
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Fritha
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Posted: September 15 2005 at 18:41 |
Starette wrote:
Progslut wrote:
Remember BON JOVI???! Sold over hundred million albums??? ![](smileys/smiley11.gif)
Says it all!!! ...who do you think bought those albums?? Definitely NOT men!
Women buy music after they `ve checked out the guys on the cover...
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Funny you say that...my ex LOVES Bon Jovi. Mind you- this is my ex who also said 'that's so gay' when I tried to introduce him to Prog Rock.
Oh the Irony!!!
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Hey, I'm living proof that one can go from extreme Bon Jovi fandom (in my teens, mind you) to embracing the deep waters of prog!
And still not completely abandon Bon Jovi down the road ![](smileys/smiley2.gif)
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Borealis
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Posted: September 15 2005 at 18:12 |
You know, most people I showed them prog liked it. I might be in a 'more art-oriented school', but it's still true. I know two girls who told me the Silver Mt. Zion I showed them was good, but one also said she wouldn't listen to it because it would make here feel so depressed, and make her think really to much about everything, life and all, escpecially if she's alone while doing it!
Actually, It's exactly why I like that band. Maybe it's one reason?... Maybe girls hates it for the same reason we like it?
Starette wrote:
I actually find it hillarious that Prog is a guy-dominated thing. My reason? I come from New Zealand...or more specifically... I go to Auckland University. Here- it's the WOMEN who love the Art's and the bizarre things- far moreso than men. In fact, most of the guys here are rough-neck, dumbarse drongos. Men like my boyfriend- who got me into prog- are very rare heavenly creatures. |
Are you serious?... There's a lot of guys in music here (I mean, about 30% of those at my age), actually, we all are doing music shows in the school, play music in the hall, play music ouside while we should be in class, we like music in Québec (even if it is metal or old rock, like Led Zepplin, for most of them, they like to play weird music anyway). Girls too, but here, they're different, ask other québécois here...
Girls of your school can always come here, no problem. ![](smileys/smiley2.gif)
Starette wrote:
Women are complex beings- men....simple. |
So true... but never herd this from a girl. They all says they are 'simple'... ![](smileys/smiley24.gif)
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Odysseus
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Posted: September 13 2005 at 19:24 |
Starette wrote:
Grr- I know. But the ones who remain have a lot of charisma...and I'm not talking about me- I;m talking about Valravennz, Bald Jean and Threefates...and others As for Marillion?...meh...it's the latest cd my bfs given me (i get all my prog from him...lol) and I thought I may as well give it a try. So far- it's merely OKAY. And yeah- he DOES sound kinda like Peter Gabriel, doesn't he!
As for them being mysoginist? Pfft- I couldn't care less! If the art's good- I love it regardless of any gender-issues behind it. Eg: theres a lot of Riffraff about The Wind in the Willows (that I'm currently reading for a childrens-lit paper at uni) being male-dominated and I DON'T CARE! I love TWITW!
So long as my boyfriend isn't being a chauvinist-prick (like my Dad pretends to be) them I'm fine with the world. I like to put my boyfriends in their place (BUAhahaha!) |
Alrighty then. I can definitely see from what I've read so far in this forum, that the prog-girls that remain have charisma as well as a strong personality, good for them. I actually think is cool if you don't give a f**k and listen to Marillion (if that's what you like), just be yourself and don't give a s**t, and if some ppl (like the ones you've mentioned) need to be put in their respective places, you might as well do it, "proggy-girl".
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The Hemulen
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Posted: September 13 2005 at 18:55 |
Starette wrote:
The Wind in the Willows |
That book's a f**king masterpiece.
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Starette
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Posted: September 13 2005 at 18:51 |
Grr- I know. But the ones who remain have a lot of charisma...and I'm not talking about me- I;m talking about Valravennz, Bald Jean and Threefates...and others As for Marillion?...meh...it's the latest cd my bfs given me (i get all my prog from him...lol) and I thought I may as well give it a try. So far- it's merely OKAY. And yeah- he DOES sound kinda like Peter Gabriel, doesn't he!
As for them being mysoginist? Pfft- I couldn't care less! If the art's good- I love it regardless of any gender-issues behind it. Eg: theres a lot of Riffraff about The Wind in the Willows (that I'm currently reading for a childrens-lit paper at uni) being male-dominated and I DON'T CARE! I love TWITW!
So long as my boyfriend isn't being a chauvinist-prick (like my Dad pretends to be) them I'm fine with the world. I like to put my boyfriends in their place (BUAhahaha!)
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Odysseus
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Posted: September 13 2005 at 13:41 |
Starette wrote:
Odysseus wrote:
I've personally never met a girl into prog. I assume it's because they prefer romantic and easy-listening stuff... ![](smileys/smiley11.gif) |
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I know I know- sad but true but there ARE prog-loving women out there okay?? ![](smileys/smiley19.gif)
WE DO EXIST...okay??!!! Don't deny us! The evil truth of this thread is killing me...
*gets desperate, bangs head again'st wall in fustration and decides to calm herself down by listening to Marillion*
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Alright! Easy now.... ![](smileys/smiley3.gif) You've got to STOP doing that young lady!.......... What? Banging your head against the wall? Nah...... what I meant was pretty much serious than that: Stop listening to a Genesis-copycat band like Marillion!!!!! ![](smileys/smiley4.gif) OK, sorry for that. Sometimes I'm evil. ![](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley15.gif) But seriously, it's nice to see a prog-gurl in the forums, they're becoming extinct, you know?
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Bob Greece
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Posted: September 13 2005 at 06:27 |
RaphaelT wrote:
the bulk of Fish - period material was about Derek's problem with relationship and it was quite mysogynic (Script For A Jester's Tear, The Web, the whole Fugazi, large parts of Misplaced Childhood). So you would not expect many girls listening to that stuff.
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Starette wrote:
*gets desperate, bangs head again'st wall in fustration and decides to calm herself down by listening to Marillion*
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Jared
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Posted: September 13 2005 at 06:02 |
Blacksword wrote:
fandango wrote:
^^^ and you say you still have mates?![](smileys/smiley36.gif) |
Yeah, and they dont mind my cape 'n' heels. They're all Hobbits so they're not going to lecture me on fashion or good taste. Not with feet like theirs! ![](smileys/smiley36.gif)
Hip Hop Hobbits! Can you imagine it..??
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hmmm....I'm not sure who keeps the stranger company..you or them...![](smileys/smiley2.gif)
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Blacksword
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Posted: September 13 2005 at 02:52 |
fandango wrote:
^^^ and you say you still have mates?![](smileys/smiley36.gif) |
Yeah, and they dont mind my cape 'n' heels. They're all Hobbits so they're not going to lecture me on fashion or good taste. Not with feet like theirs! ![](smileys/smiley36.gif)
Hip Hop Hobbits! Can you imagine it..??
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Starette
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Posted: September 12 2005 at 19:39 |
Odysseus wrote:
I've personally never met a girl into prog. I assume it's because they prefer romantic and easy-listening stuff... ![](smileys/smiley11.gif) |
![](smileys/smiley18.gif)
I know I know- sad but true but there ARE prog-loving women out there okay?? ![](smileys/smiley19.gif)
WE DO EXIST...okay??!!! Don't deny us! The evil truth of this thread is killing me...
*gets desperate, bangs head again'st wall in fustration and decides to calm herself down by listening to Marillion*
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MoodsWings
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Posted: September 11 2005 at 18:01 |
Odysseus wrote:
I've personally never met a girl into prog. I assume
it's because they prefer romantic and easy-listening stuff... ![](smileys/smiley11.gif) |
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Yeah, that must be it
I've been accused many times of liking 'guy music.' Whatever that means.
I always thought it had more to do with me being nuts.
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Odysseus
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Posted: September 11 2005 at 17:17 |
I've personally never met a girl into prog. I assume it's because they prefer romantic and easy-listening stuff...
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Starette
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Posted: September 10 2005 at 01:17 |
Progslut wrote:
Remember BON JOVI???! Sold over hundred million albums??? ![](smileys/smiley11.gif)
Says it all!!! ...who do you think bought those albums?? Definitely NOT men!
Women buy music after they `ve checked out the guys on the cover...
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Funny you say that...my ex LOVES Bon Jovi. Mind you- this is my ex who also said 'that's so gay' when I tried to introduce him to Prog Rock.
Oh the Irony!!!
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