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Meltdowner 
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 Posted: May 15 2017 at 07:39 |
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uduwudu
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Joined: July 17 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2601 |
Posted: May 15 2017 at 06:50 |
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^Publicity stunt then?
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twosteves
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Joined: May 01 2007 Location: NYC/Rhinebeck Status: Offline Points: 4091 |
Posted: May 14 2017 at 18:34 |
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I have a feeling they didn't sell enough tickets----does anyone in Europe want to see Kansas? Do people in Kansas want to see Kansas? lol I see them as maybe selling tickets in certain parts of the USA . No ticket sales so maybe couldn;t afford security except for a 75 year old retired traffic cop.
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Catcher10
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Posted: May 13 2017 at 22:45 |
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^^ Dude you can't say "danger" or "dangerous" you should say "unsafe" so people do not get scared too much or in panic mode!
 Please go to Monterrey Mexico in the state of Nuevo Leon, where they cut peoples heads off, the drug lords rule, they hang bodies from poles, they blow up nightclubs, take into the desert and you never are found and these are all their own people. I have been there many times, speak the language very well, I am not Mexican but easily can fit in. I never go out at night nor would you ever catch me at a nightclub there or any concert....Why? Because it's fu**ing DANGEROUS, I don't understand how anything like that can be radically overstated. How about this thought....Low ticket sales, if that was the issue, is because people are not interested in going to see an American band play in Europe because of the possibility of radical action, sorry unsafe conditions, and people will get hurt. Sometimes a little common sense can save lives.
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Sean Trane
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Posted: May 13 2017 at 18:15 |
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They're from Kansas... Need we say mmore?? Everyone in Kansas voted Trump and owns gub-ns to shoot rats that are decimating the cornfields  |
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Logan
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Posted: May 13 2017 at 12:17 |
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^^ I've also traveled a lot, but never had anything like that happen to me.
The safest I ever felt was while living in Japan (south of Osaka). My then girlfriend and I would walk around the forested paths of lakes late at night and we never had the slightest concern for our safety. I've never felt that safe here in Canada. I lived in Australia too without incident. I love Paris, and was never in physical danger, but I had to wear a money belt and was pick-pocketed (was blamed by Parisians I spoke to on the Roma - gypsies). According to this list, Singapore is the safest country to live in, but scores badly for freedoms. Europe is the continent that has the most countries deemed safe. Safest countries to live in It really depends upon where in Europe and where in the US you are. Sweden is generally considered safe, for instance, but Malmo isn't (although the dangers there may be exaggerated due to anti-immigrant sentiments). Edited by Logan - May 13 2017 at 12:18 |
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Warthur
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Joined: January 06 2008 Location: London, UK Status: Offline Points: 617 |
Posted: May 13 2017 at 12:05 |
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The "danger" is radically overstated. Terrorist attacks hit the news cycle hard precisely because they are rare; I see news stories about bands in safe-seeming cities in the US getting cleaned out because of people stealing their gear far more regularly than you get news stories about terrorist attacks in general, and major venues over here are generally very good at security and were even before the Bataclan incident, and have tightened things up since then. Seriously; I live over here. The way some US media portrays Europe has nothing to do with reality and everything to do with promoting an action movie view of a world in chaos because that's what drives ratings, clicks and subscriptions. Frankly, there was far more hostility towards Americans over here back in the mid-2000s, after the invasion of Iraq, and I don't recall Kansas having any problems touring then. This stinks of arse-covering. Maybe Kansas are genuinely blinkered enough to believe this, but as an international touring act I'd expect them to be a bit less provincial than that. My first guess was some sort of in-band drama, but ticket sales might have been an issue too - it's worth remembering that though they were pretty successful in the States, over here Kansas aren't really known for anything other than Carry On My Wayward Son, and many listeners only know that thanks to Guitar Hero.
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TheH
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Posted: May 13 2017 at 11:53 |
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Sorry but if there is a safe place in the world it is Europe.
I have been about everywhere in the world, and the only time I was in serious trouble was in the USA. I actually woke up in my hotel room on the second day I ever spent in the US with a gun hold to my head. |
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Logan
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Posted: May 13 2017 at 10:27 |
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Thank you!  As Oscar Wilde put it, "I may not agree with you, but I will defend to the death your right to make an ass of yourself." |
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Posted: May 13 2017 at 09:41 |
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Must admit that was my first thought.
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Ian
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RoeDent
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Posted: May 13 2017 at 09:39 |
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Come on guys, it's obviously poor ticket sales, covered over with the security excuse. Hey, maybe the sales are so poor they can't afford security for themselves.
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Phaerdas
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Joined: May 07 2017 Location: sasa Status: Offline Points: 1 |
Posted: May 13 2017 at 09:01 |
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Lol, where did you find such info that they are trump or NRA supporters xD Edited by Phaerdas - May 13 2017 at 09:01 |
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Sean Trane
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Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20248 |
Posted: May 13 2017 at 06:15 |
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Actually, It is Europe that cancelled the tour of that un-prog band from the Prairies: they're believed to be Trump supporters
 and NRA enthusiasts  The risks of dangerous and malevolent contagion was too great to risk European population health  
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: May 13 2017 at 05:13 |
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Simon mentioned it earlier and I too have thought about this announcement as some kind of smokescreen for not selling enough tickets. This way the band retains it's pride.
Btw I am cancelling my tour of Russia due to the increase of bears. Damn...and to think I am disappointing all my fans in the Urals. |
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twseel
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Posted: May 13 2017 at 05:08 |
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And also, what if Kansas doesn't come? They'll fill it up with another rock band because Europe knows full well that we are not at a point where you can't play a goddamn rock show. I myself have been at two shows and two festivals since that attack, boy am I daring to still go out in public like that!
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: May 13 2017 at 05:04 |
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I'll wear a floral dress if you get Kansas to bring in 1500 people a night. I'm sure they can gather 10000 folks in the States but here? Not even close.
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“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
- Douglas Adams |
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Kepler62
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Posted: May 13 2017 at 05:00 |
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Well said, you beat me to it.
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Kotro
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Joined: August 16 2004 Location: Portugal Status: Offline Points: 2815 |
Posted: May 13 2017 at 04:31 |
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8-12,000 people? It's Kansas. In Europe. It's not the second coming of Pink Floyd.
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Bigger on the inside.
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uduwudu
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Posted: May 13 2017 at 03:08 |
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Dictators (not the band) rule and win. Cancelling gigs with the possibility of terrorism means the terrorists win.
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aprusso
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Posted: May 13 2017 at 03:07 |
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Wow. While, instead, the US are very safe now..... and especially the midwest with all its shootings
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