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Originally posted by Terrapin Station Terrapin Station wrote:

Originally posted by aglasshouse aglasshouse wrote:

Teakbois is bad for the same reason Illegal Alien is.
But "Illegal Alien" is a great tune.
I can't say I agree with that.
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Failure? Not in the least. While parts of it were not exactly the best, I found it refreshing overall. At the time, I had pretty much written off Yes. ABWH went a long way to restoring my faith in them and reviving my interest in Prog in general.
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^ I prefer Illegal Alien to Teakbois........
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Originally posted by aglasshouse aglasshouse wrote:

Teakbois is bad for the same reason Illegal Alien is.
But "Illegal Alien" is a great tune.
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Teakbois is bad for the same reason Illegal Alien is.
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Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Originally posted by Terrapin Station Terrapin Station wrote:

Just curious about this because I can't really begin to guess: can anyone specify what they hate about "Teakbois", preferably from a music-theoretical standpoint?
Apart from the up-beat Caribbean vibe (quite uncharacteristic of these guys),
I don't think it's that uncharacteristic for Jon Anderson though--it always seemed more like a (more elaborate than normal) Jon Anderson solo track to me.  Anyway, so you just categorically dislike upbeat Caribbean vibes?  Or you don't like things that aren't characteristic? 
Quote you have the idiotic 'Bobby Dread And The Kool Running' section. Whatever happened to rearranging your liver to its solid mental grace ??
Which is just about the lyrics?

I love Caribbean vibes - been there several times - love the music !! Just not when the Yes guys are trying so hard and sounding silly at doing it. False and pretentious. Something akin to UB 40.
Besides, I don't skip it - I don't (usually) skip any track on an album, no matter how lame it is, and I can hear the guys had some fun with it, but it really sticks out like a sore thumb, and somewhat awkward. And in this case, it's too long.
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The only thing I can say about you folks who don't love "Teakbois" is that some of ya didn't get it.
 
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Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe was more Yes than Yes at the time.

Union was more of a failure. I remember playing Union going WTF this? And I had a double live cd from ABWH wich was refreshing, sounding good and wouldn't consider it to be a failure. Altough the name was commercial suicide. But a lot of 90's names were awful (Martin Turner's Wishbone Ash, Barclay James Harvest through the eyes of John Lees, etc. etc.)
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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Terrapin Station Terrapin Station wrote:

Just curious about this because I can't really begin to guess: can anyone specify what they hate about "Teakbois", preferably from a music-theoretical standpoint?
For me, it's Jon Anderson trying to sound like he can sing Caribbean music when he's from Accrington.
So you want it to sound "authentic" if it's going to be done rather than be an idiosyncratic, proggy take on those influences?
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Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Originally posted by Terrapin Station Terrapin Station wrote:

Just curious about this because I can't really begin to guess: can anyone specify what they hate about "Teakbois", preferably from a music-theoretical standpoint?
Apart from the up-beat Caribbean vibe (quite uncharacteristic of these guys),
I don't think it's that uncharacteristic for Jon Anderson though--it always seemed more like a (more elaborate than normal) Jon Anderson solo track to me.  Anyway, so you just categorically dislike upbeat Caribbean vibes?  Or you don't like things that aren't characteristic? 
Quote you have the idiotic 'Bobby Dread And The Kool Running' section. Whatever happened to rearranging your liver to its solid mental grace ??
Which is just about the lyrics?

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Originally posted by Terrapin Station Terrapin Station wrote:

Just curious about this because I can't really begin to guess: can anyone specify what they hate about "Teakbois", preferably from a music-theoretical standpoint?
For me, it's Jon Anderson trying to sound like he can sing Caribbean music when he's from Accrington.
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Originally posted by Terrapin Station Terrapin Station wrote:

Just curious about this because I can't really begin to guess: can anyone specify what they hate about "Teakbois", preferably from a music-theoretical standpoint?
Apart from the up-beat Caribbean vibe (quite uncharacteristic of these guys), you have the idiotic 'Bobby Dread And The Kool Running' section. Whatever happened to rearranging your liver to its solid mental grace ??
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Originally posted by Rednight Rednight wrote:

Originally posted by aglasshouse aglasshouse wrote:

Originally posted by Terrapin Station Terrapin Station wrote:

The only thing I can say about you folks who don't love "Teakbois" is that some of ya didn't get it.

If by "didn't get it" you mean not getting how it was a good idea to publish such a travesty, then you'd be right. 
That's the thing. I wish I hadn't gotten it (in the first place). Thank the Lord the rest of the album is warm and cuddly.
Warm and cuddly I admit it is. I do put it on frequently even if critically I'm not a fan. 
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Just curious about this because I can't really begin to guess: can anyone specify what they hate about "Teakbois", preferably from a music-theoretical standpoint?
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Originally posted by WeepingElf WeepingElf wrote:

I wouldn't say ABWH was a failure. It may be one of the weaker Yes albums, but still a good and appreciable work. Perhaps a bit too 80s-ish and synthy in sound, especially due to those Simmons hexagons which just don't sound like a real drum kit. Especially "Teakbois" is some sort of plastic Latin pop - the weakest piece of the whole album together with the piano ballad "The Meeting" which I never got into.

 
I do hate Teakbois but love The Meeting. It's simple and peaceful. Nice piano.
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(Hoping some people other than Bobby Dread got the joke)

Not that I don't love "Teakbois" though.
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I wouldn't say ABWH was a failure. It may be one of the weaker Yes albums, but still a good and appreciable work. Perhaps a bit too 80s-ish and synthy in sound, especially due to those Simmons hexagons which just don't sound like a real drum kit. Especially "Teakbois" is some sort of plastic Latin pop - the weakest piece of the whole album together with the piano ballad "The Meeting" which I never got into.
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Originally posted by aglasshouse aglasshouse wrote:

Originally posted by Terrapin Station Terrapin Station wrote:

The only thing I can say about you folks who don't love "Teakbois" is that some of ya didn't get it.

If by "didn't get it" you mean not getting how it was a good idea to publish such a travesty, then you'd be right. 
That's the thing. I wish I hadn't gotten it (in the first place). Thank the Lord the rest of the album is warm and cuddly.
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Points: 1505 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 07 2016 at 15:58
Originally posted by Terrapin Station Terrapin Station wrote:

The only thing I can say about you folks who don't love "Teakbois" is that some of ya didn't get it.
If by "didn't get it" you mean not getting how it was a good idea to publish such a travesty, then you'd be right. 
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The only thing I can say about you folks who don't love "Teakbois" is that some of ya didn't get it.
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