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Hemis 
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 Posted: June 01 2016 at 05:25 |
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I think LakeGlade12 may have a strong point. Recently (about a year or so) I listened to 'Ok Computer' By Radiohead, mainly due to the comparisons to Dark side. The thing is: after that I've only listened to The Bends and A moon shaped pool. I intend on discover their other albums but just for those 2 (ok and bends) they earned a very special place in my music taste. Oh I heard half of Kid A, it's a 2-3 for me :) so I assume they went downhill!
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Posted: June 01 2016 at 04:12 |
Band A easily for me. They released 3 very highly rated albums which meant they had something truly unique going on along with a high general musical quality. However some artists are one trick pony's and are only good at playing to their unique strengths. Once that well of inspiration runs dry they either run out of ideas completely or they try to go into another genre and fail miserably.
Band B however spent almost their entire career in mediocrity releasing albums that in 100 years will be forgotten about completely. Yes they got better in the end but never to the level of being truly significant.
Its much better to have a short lived but golden period as those few albums will remain classics for generations to come. Band B however will quickly fall in obscurity and only have the odd cult follower.
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Hemis
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Posted: May 31 2016 at 19:56 |
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The Top 100 PA albums is important for some. Having an album there is a great accomplishment, considering there are over 50k albums rated in the site.. It's like the albums everyone here should at least try to listen. I guess, one has to think 'If I had a band, what would be the best course for our albums?'. I honestly can't choose properly. Both answers are good. I guess, maybe, A would be more famous, but B would be a better choice. At least they are getting somewhere. A are just losing themselves due to what appears to be their early success.
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Star_Song_Age_Less
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Posted: May 31 2016 at 19:52 |
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Atavachron had me convinced, then Magnum convinced me otherwise, then Atavachron re-convinced me again. Am I incapable of independent thought?!?!
I guess on reflection I have to go with "neither band has the better discography." Both are equally good, one just more consistent than the other. When I think about two bands I looove love love that fit that type of scenario (Yes - case A, Type O Negative - case B) I would in fact lean toward saying they are equal (even though I think Yes' best is much better than Type's best). Yes, I know, Type's not prog. Just seemed to fit the profile for me.
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Atavachron
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Posted: May 31 2016 at 19:38 |
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The question is "who has the best discography".
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Posted: May 31 2016 at 19:32 |
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I'd go with band A and focus my listening on the first 4 albums. I have several bands like that in my collection and typically go with A.
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Atavachron
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Posted: May 31 2016 at 18:36 |
 Hemis wrote:
Both points of view are good. If one is to follow the course A does from the beginning, he would, as the albums are released, become very disappointed. But, The truth is that no album from B would ever appear on top 100 PA albums. One can not say that about A |
Whether a band appears in the PA Top 100 is useless because, 1) the list changes & is in flux, and 2) is wrong.
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Atavachron
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Posted: May 31 2016 at 18:34 |
Magnum Vaeltaja wrote:
Band A has the better discography. Their first 3 albums are veritable masterpieces, true desert island discs. If I had the choice of owning the complete discography of both bands, I'd pick A just for those first 3 or 4 albums. Who cares if they had one or two duds? When I consider two bands I'll usually compare peak to peak. It looks like B has just released 8 lukewarm or good albums, so there's not really much of a peak to look at.
I suppose that this is a bit like comparing bands a band like Yes to some obscure symphonic prog band that had a string of 5 decent albums. Sure, Yes may have released some really weak material, but I'd still consider their discography to be superior on the merits of Fragile, Close To The Edge, etc.
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No because at the end of the day Band B did not have '8 lukewarm or good albums', they had the higher volume per release of quality material.
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Hemis
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Posted: May 31 2016 at 18:14 |
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Both points of view are good. If one is to follow the course A does from the beginning, he would, as the albums are released, become very disappointed. But, The truth is that no album from B would ever appear on top 100 PA albums. One can not say that about A
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Magnum Vaeltaja
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Posted: May 31 2016 at 18:08 |
Band A has the better discography. Their first 3 albums are veritable masterpieces, true desert island discs. If I had the choice of owning the complete discography of both bands, I'd pick A just for those first 3 or 4 albums. Who cares if they had one or two duds? When I consider two bands I'll usually compare peak to peak. It looks like B has just released 8 lukewarm or good albums, so there's not really much of a peak to look at.
I suppose that this is a bit like comparing bands a band like Yes to some obscure symphonic prog band that had a string of 5 decent albums. Sure, Yes may have released some really weak material, but I'd still consider their discography to be superior on the merits of Fragile, Close To The Edge, etc.
Edited by Magnum Vaeltaja - May 31 2016 at 18:09
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when i was a kid a doller was worth ten dollers - now a doller couldnt even buy you fifty cents
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Atavachron
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Posted: May 31 2016 at 18:01 |
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In this case averages are irrelevant-- Band A has two albums you rate under 3, but all of band B's albums are 3.30 or higher. Further, band A started spectacularly and has been declining ever since, leaving a lot of disappointment, whereas Band B is on a seemingly perpetual upswing.
Band B has the best discography.
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Hemis
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Posted: May 31 2016 at 17:25 |
I have been thinking about doing a poll in which I present you with two ficticious bands and something else occoured to me. Imagine you have two bands, A and B, both with 8 albums in their discographies. And imagine that the rating I'll give them are truly fit for the quality of the albums.
Band A: 1st album - 4.56 2nd album - 4.11 3rd album - 4.46 4th album - 3.99 5th album - 3.12 6th album - 3.25 7th album - 2.76 8th album - 2.75
Band B: 1st album - 3.30 2nd album - 3.49 3rd album - 3.75 4th album - 3.46 5th album - 3.50 6th album - 3.45 7th album - 4.01 8th album - 4.04
Both bands have the same average rating, 3.625. However, it's clear that Band A started off better, with 4 great albums (4+), but then they started declining and eventually their carreer ended with two shameful records (2.76 & 2.75). The Band B started with a normal album (3.30) and after that they have been slowly improving, even achieving 2 great albums (4+). Having all this in consideration who has the best discography?!
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