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bertburt
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Posted: August 22 2005 at 23:47 |
Snow Dog wrote:
bertburt wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Whats wrong with ladders? |
Carpentry![](smileys/smiley4.gif)
Fighting fires![](smileys/smiley4.gif)
Painting![](smileys/smiley4.gif)
Getting kittens out of trees![](smileys/smiley4.gif)
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(Unless it's a song about carpentry, fighting fires, painting, or getting kittens out of trees....)
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What is wrong with the lyric "someone get me a ladder"?
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I think the more pertinent question is....What isn't wrong with the lyric "Someone get me a ladder"?
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Snow Dog
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Posted: August 22 2005 at 20:51 |
bertburt wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Whats wrong with ladders? |
Carpentry![](smileys/smiley4.gif)
Fighting fires![](smileys/smiley4.gif)
Painting![](smileys/smiley4.gif)
Getting kittens out of trees![](smileys/smiley4.gif)
Lyrics![](smileys/smiley11.gif)
(Unless it's a song about carpentry, fighting fires, painting, or getting kittens out of trees....)
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What is wrong with the lyric "someone get me a ladder"?
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OldFatherThames
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Posted: August 22 2005 at 20:48 |
C'est la vie is one of my favorite ELP songs ! I absloutely love this song !!
The sage is an amazing one too ![](smileys/smiley32.gif)
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Progger
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Posted: August 22 2005 at 16:44 |
I love his ballads. They were an integral part of every ELP album!![](smileys/smiley32.gif)
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bertburt
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Posted: August 22 2005 at 16:25 |
Snow Dog wrote:
Whats wrong with ladders? |
Carpentry![](smileys/smiley4.gif)
Fighting fires![](smileys/smiley4.gif)
Painting![](smileys/smiley4.gif)
Getting kittens out of trees![](smileys/smiley4.gif)
Lyrics![](smileys/smiley11.gif)
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Posted: August 22 2005 at 16:20 |
^ You really are a horrible person aren't you? Poxx is surely the best name you could have chosen!
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Poxx
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Posted: August 22 2005 at 16:09 |
Rotten, moldy and covered with hair cheesy. Pig feces is like mustard compared to Lake's ballads. If Greg Lake was a movie he'd be 'Catwoman'.
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Posted: August 22 2005 at 16:06 |
Whats wrong with ladders?
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Posted: August 22 2005 at 15:57 |
I must admit I like these ballads. Please remember that it was hit single Lucky Man that brought ELP to the top of the charts, so it played vital role in popularization of whole genre (I'm quoting Rockin' The Classics by Edward Macan). It was written by 14 - year old Greg Lake though, and so it sounds infantile (that's why it annoys some ELP fans).
Nevertheless, it would be nice to catch "Still You Turn Me On" or "From The Beginning" on radio on Valentine's Day instead of Britney or Robbie Williams (excuse me for rude language, pardon my Klatchian)
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yet you still have time!
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Dragon Phoenix
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Posted: August 22 2005 at 15:34 |
I always find it fascinating how different views on music are even when we share a love a for prog. I find the synthesizer part on Lucky Man the best part of the song.
As I type this, I'm listening once more to From the beginning, but it still does not do much to me - and again, I prefer instrumental parts over the vocals although I'm normally much more drawn to vocals.
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Ben2112
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Posted: August 22 2005 at 15:21 |
My favorite ELP songs actually. ![](smileys/smiley9.gif) Especially "From The Beginning"; that song is utterly beautiful, with a very very nice guitar solo to boot.
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Posted: August 22 2005 at 14:56 |
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I hate the cheesy synth part on Lucky Man , but otherwise it's a decent song |
Call it cheese if you want but that means you didn't understand a couple of things. First it was one of the earliest recording with a moog synth recorded on it and second he did it in one take. Greg lake said that is exactly what I want. Keith never rehearsed or pre wrote the solo for it.
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"What are you going to do when that damn thing rusts?"
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Posted: August 22 2005 at 14:44 |
richardh wrote:
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From the Beginning is amazing. |
I agree.Great song and production.I like Greg Lake's ballads as they provide a good contrast to the frenetic and technical peices.
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10/10
The same goes for The sherrif, but that isn't a ballad. God, do I love both songs!!!! And what about The endless enigma part 1, it's true perfection.
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Right down the line
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topography
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Posted: August 22 2005 at 14:23 |
Hes not that bad as a lyricist, admittedly the 'someone get a ladder' is particular poor (maybe it was an injoke). But generally overall hes pretty good.
And someone mentioned earlier 'the sage' from pictures at an exhibition, its a good one isn't it.
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richardh
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Posted: August 22 2005 at 14:11 |
I'm not sure,but I think the 'someone get me a ladder' line was actually an ''injoke''.(well I hope so anyway ![](smileys/smiley36.gif) ) Linda(3 Fates) or someone else please clarify?..
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Posted: August 22 2005 at 14:03 |
Great voice, and a pretty good guitar player (obviously a great, great bass player, but that should go without saying). Lake should have left the writing to someone else, though. "Someone get me a ladder" is a classic, but my favorite is the line that literally made me choke on my soda when I first heard it -- "Do you believe God makes you breathe/why did he lose six million Jews?" Awesomely bad. Oh, yeah, almost forgot this gem from Trilogy -- "We tried to lie/but you and I/know better than to let each other lie/the thought of lying to you makes me cry." Worst. Poetry. Ever. Every time I listen to ELP (which is quite often ![](smileys/smiley4.gif) ), I try very hard to pretend I don't speak English.
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Dangled from a rope of sand
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Posted: August 22 2005 at 14:02 |
The ballads are nice,but not spectacular...
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richardh
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Posted: August 22 2005 at 14:00 |
floydaholic wrote:
From the Beginning is amazing. |
I agree.Great song and production.I like Greg Lake's ballads as they provide a good contrast to the frenetic and technical peices.
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Posted: August 22 2005 at 13:58 |
I have to admit I love those ballads, although I'm not usually a fan of slow, romantic songs. Greg's voice makes them really special, and his acoustic playing is very good. As to his electric playing, I think he's rather underrated, but I think his real strong point is the singing.
"Someone get me a ladder" is quite an awful line, but I don't find Lake so bad a lyricist as many others claim. Other songs' lyrics are not bad at all, although of course he's no Roger Waters or Neil Peart.
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bertburt
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Posted: August 22 2005 at 13:44 |
Sometimes when I pull out the six-string, I'll play 'Still....you turn me on'. It's an enjoyable tune to play and sing. But...I always skip singing the "Someone get me a ladder" line since it is so undeniably horrible. I can't bring myself to do it![](smileys/smiley11.gif)
Otherwise, I like the song![](smileys/smiley4.gif)
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