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verslibre
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Indeed. So glad to have his books. The one-year anniversary of Neil's passing is in four days.
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verslibre
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Did you ever see the episode of Storage Wars where Barry Weiss goes to Stewart's home to ask a rather opportunistic favor of him? Unfortunately, the clip isn't on YouTube, and AETV wants you to register to watch it, but Barry "scores" a vintage Ludwig kit from a storage locker and takes it to Stewart, who immediately talks him out of the Zildjian ride cymbal for $40. After that, Barry asks Stew to sign AND date each piece of hardware so he can flip the kit! |
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grantman
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For me only two albums stay with me 2112 and A FAREWELL TO THE KINGS. The rest are good but find doesn,t hold my attention like those two records.I rate them
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Sacro_Porgo
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What a wonderful read! He was always such a great writer as well...
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Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :)
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Oh agree!! I love watching his stuff on YT in his home studio, he is such a hyper guy in interviews.
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verslibre
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Stew is one of the best rock drummers, period.
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verslibre
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Ditto. I love his film scores, some of which he rearranged and released along with original material on his 1988 solo album The Equalizer & Other Cliff Hangers.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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^That doesn't surprise me. Copeland played with traditional grip as opposed to Neil's matched grip. Neil swtiched it up later and played both ways but that was more because of Freddie Gruber's influence than Stewart's. Stewart was probably one of the best traditional grip drummers in rock though(over all).
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Catcher10
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I agree, you only have to listen to FBN then CoS and hear the development of sounds and technique in a couple albums. I'm a big Stewart Copeland fan I think his style and composition is amazing, he is very musical. It was never a surprise to me when Neil mentions him as an inspiration.
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verslibre
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As most musicians do. Speaking of Phil Collins, I think you all will like this entry from Neil's old column. |
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verslibre
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Sure, but I think Neil evolved more quickly and sooner than people care to admit. I'd add Ginger Baker, too.
ELP toured in the late '70s, too, first with and then without an orchestra. It's not easy to forget a drummer like Palmer. |
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Sacro_Porgo
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I've never read much about Neil being a massive Carl Palmer fan. Moreso than anyone else I've heard him mention really loving Keith Moon, and later on Buddy Rich. Now I can definitely hear things that Palmer did which Neil would go on to use, but as far as being a massive influence or inspiration to Neil as a drummer I don't think he held anyone in higher regard than Moon when he first started playing with Rush. I have a memory of him mentioning lifting a particular drum fill on the Hold Your Fire album from Phil Collins, and I seem to recall him being really interested in learning from Steward Copeland's approach when The Police first hit. He's also mentioned getting inspiration from joining drum circles on a bike ride through Africa. I guess my point is Neil took a lot of ideas from a lot of different drummers and used them to create and develop his own style. I don't think he owes Carl Palmer any more credit than Stewart Copeland.
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Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :)
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JD
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Thank you for supporting independently produced music
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Catcher10
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Quite possibly, but for many Moon and Bonham are the reason the later drummers got behind a kit in the first place. ELP was only 3-4yrs behind Rush's first release and by the time BSS comes out, seems like ELP was also waning. I think people forgot about Palmer until Asia in the early 80's. Palmer should be mentioned more on this site.........
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verslibre
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When it comes to Neil, Carl usually gets referenced. He deserves to be referenced a lot more than Moon, that's for certain.
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JD
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You're not missing anything. I was just musing. I guess when it comes to prog rock drummers (which I think we can agree Peart was one of) Palmer should be referenced. Likewise for keyboardists, Emerson's influence can't be ignored. That's all I was saying. It's a perfectly nice tribute to a drummer he admires, I just think harking back to Krupa and Rich, and even mentioning Starr without including Palmer does a disservice to his contribution, that's all.
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Maybe I am missing something in your post, but this guy is paying tribute to Neil who seems to be a huge influence to him and his drumming. I am sure if Neil made a similar tribute it would include Bonham, Moon, Palmer, Buddy Rich, Gruber. I've always liked Palmer's drumming even though I'm not a huge ELP fan.
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JD
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Well put together for sure. Only issue I have is his complete lack of acknowledging Carl Palmer's influence as a drummer that opened the door for Neil to explore his eventual potfolio. Including...fast rolls down a chain of tuned toms, drum solos constructed with true musical phrasing, rotating drum kit, electronic drums. Albeit, in his own style and fashion. I'm sorry, I think Neil is in the top 3 rock drummers for innovation and performance, but to not understand or even include CP's contribution to this topic is, in my opinion, negligent or uninformed. Still, a really nice video.
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Had not seen this tribute before, just popped up on my YT feed....well done, not sure who this drummer is other than a general fan. I think he did a good job.
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I love watching Jamel AKA Jamal, all his reactions are awesome. Normally once he posts a reaction, the copy/cats follow up a couple days later with the same song.
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