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micky
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Posted: November 16 2014 at 16:16 |
Rick Robson wrote:
Didn't know the most popular RPI band was PFM, I know very little from them, I thought the most influential was Banco (I know very litlle from them too.) I know that Le Orme (my favourite RPI band so far) obviously don't deserve to be in this list. I don't see Moody Blues nor Procol Harum in there too, I think it's because they were not so influential and popular isn't it? The same applies to Vangelis unfortunately. |
It's all highly debatable of course, this isn't a completely serious attempt to rank them, just using some inclinations I have regarding overall impact, influence and popularity (past and/or current) to get some attempt at a list of greatest prog rock artists. I think Raff would agree (she does) that PFM were the most popular of the groups at that time in Italy and obviously (to me at least) have the greatest lasting impact. The show at Nearfest 2009 of the NEW material might have been the singularly most enchanting musical performance I've ever seen. I think it was for many. Wow. Anyhow. As far as the Moodies and Procal Harum, again casualties of the original tight cut line and the need to cover as wide a base as possible. In my mind one couldn't be there without the other. There were a lot of omissions due to lack of space and competition with other bands for that space. The new list has all the important ones as far as I can tell. All the suggestions were combed through. Some taken, some not. I'll be sitting on the list and making any changes as any other suggestions come in.
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Rick Robson
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Posted: November 16 2014 at 15:59 |
Didn't know the most popular RPI band was PFM, I know very little from them, I thought the most influential was Banco (I know very litlle from them too.) I know that Le Orme (my favourite RPI band so far) obviously don't deserve to be in this list. I don't see Moody Blues nor Procol Harum in there too, I think it's because they were not so influential and popular isn't it? The same applies to Vangelis unfortunately.
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"Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy." LvB
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Tuzvihar
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Posted: November 16 2014 at 15:40 |
Sigur Rós!
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"Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
Charles Bukowski
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Posted: November 16 2014 at 15:31 |
micky wrote:
we love El Diablo. We both (I think both of us, I know me) discovered them during a midset break at Nearfest. They were blaring something from Sing Along Songs at Nearfest and we both were floored by it.. it was like.. 'WFT is THAT. I have to have that group'
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I discovered them exactly the same way, I think it was the '10 edition.
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Ian
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micky
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Posted: November 16 2014 at 15:25 |
we love El Diablo. We both (I think both of us, I know me) discovered them during a midset break at Nearfest. They were blaring something from Sing Along Songs at Nearfest and we both were floored by it.. it was like.. 'WFT is THAT. I have to have that group'
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sleeper
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Posted: November 16 2014 at 15:23 |
Lear'sFool wrote:
This is gearing up to be a fun contest.
I'd add Death, Atheist, and maybe Voivod to a group of 64. Certainly Death was very popular and influential. In the end, we wouldn't want too much prog metal to miss out on a chance at the bracket. |
I'd take Death over Atheist, both pioneers in the same genre but Death were more influential I feel. Good call on Voivod and might as well add Cynic and the original prog metal band, Watchtower.
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HolyMoly
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Posted: November 16 2014 at 15:16 |
bhikkhu wrote:
micky wrote:
cool! I'll take you up on that. I've spent more time making good natured fun of it, and its listeners than actually listening to it and exploring it
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I'll flame you harder than the Camel fans if you dis Diablo!!
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You gotta respect El Diablo.
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micky
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Posted: November 16 2014 at 15:14 |
bhikkhu wrote:
micky wrote:
cool! I'll take you up on that. I've spent more time making good natured fun of it, and its listeners than actually listening to it and exploring it
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I'll flame you harder than the Camel fans if you dis Diablo!!
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hahah. Oh you tempt me. You are such a sweetheart, I don't think you have a bad side even a bad boy like me could get onto to.
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micky
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Posted: November 16 2014 at 15:11 |
HolyMoly wrote:
This is a hell of a project. If you and Raff have the stomach for moderating a discussion/tourney like this, this should prove to be entertaining. I don't have any suggestions for the seedings that no one hasn't already thought of (ugh. Bad sentence structure), but I'll be tuning in and offering dumb comments here and there. |
funny. I got drafted for the site here by Ivan who found me toiling away on a website that tried to objectively rank prog artists by those very nebulous qualities. Impact, influence, popularity and have them apply in relative equal parts. It was entertaining and fun. It is of course how I plan to do the seedings. Likely top 8 only (perhaps 16) Anything past that is just flipping coins as it really drops off once you get past the really big ones.
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bhikkhu
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Posted: November 16 2014 at 15:08 |
micky wrote:
cool! I'll take you up on that. I've spent more time making good natured fun of it, and its listeners than actually listening to it and exploring it
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I'll flame you harder than the Camel fans if you dis Diablo!!
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HolyMoly
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Posted: November 16 2014 at 15:07 |
This is a hell of a project. If you and Raff have the stomach for moderating a discussion/tourney like this, this should prove to be entertaining. I don't have any suggestions for the seedings that no one hasn't already thought of (ugh. Bad sentence structure), but I'll be tuning in and offering dumb comments here and there.
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My other avatar is a Porsche
It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased.
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SteveG
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Posted: November 16 2014 at 15:03 |
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micky
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Posted: November 16 2014 at 15:03 |
bhikkhu wrote:
You could throw Diablo Swing Orchestra in there as a possible Cinderella. |
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micky
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Posted: November 16 2014 at 15:02 |
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micky
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Posted: November 16 2014 at 14:59 |
cool! I'll take you up on that. I've spent more time making good natured fun of it, and its listeners than actually listening to it and exploring it
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bhikkhu
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Posted: November 16 2014 at 14:59 |
You could throw Diablo Swing Orchestra in there as a possible Cinderella.
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Tuzvihar
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Posted: November 16 2014 at 14:58 |
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"Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
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Raff
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Posted: November 16 2014 at 14:57 |
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LearsFool
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Posted: November 16 2014 at 14:53 |
micky wrote:
Lear'sFool wrote:
This is gearing up to be a fun contest.
I'd add Death, Atheist, and maybe Voivod to a group of 64. Certainly Death was very popular and influential. In the end, we wouldn't want too much prog metal to miss out on a chance at the bracket. |
the one we had years ago was a real hoot!
I might keep some slots open for prog metal groups over and above the few I have in. It is an area I know very little about, I'll shoot you over the list, if interested, and have you fill out some bands since you get the gist of the list.
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If you need any help, I'd be happy to.
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micky
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Posted: November 16 2014 at 14:52 |
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