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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2014 at 16:16
Originally posted by Rick Robson Rick Robson wrote:

Didn't know the most popular RPI band was PFM, I know very little from them, I thought the most influential was Banco (I know very litlle from them too.) I know that Le Orme (my favourite RPI band so far) obviously don't deserve to be in this list.
 
I don't see Moody Blues nor Procol Harum in there too, I think it's because they were not so influential and popular isn't it? The same applies to Vangelis unfortunately.


It's all highly debatable of course, this isn't a completely serious attempt to rank them, just using some inclinations I have regarding overall impact, influence and popularity (past and/or current) to get some attempt at a list of greatest prog rock artists.

I think Raff would agree (she does) that PFM were the most popular of the groups at that time in Italy and obviously (to me at least) have the greatest lasting impact.  The show at Nearfest 2009 of the NEW material might have been the singularly most enchanting musical performance I've ever seen. I think it was for many. Wow.

Anyhow. As far as the Moodies and Procal Harum, again casualties of the original tight cut line and the need to cover as wide a base as possible. In my mind one couldn't be there without the other. There were a lot of omissions due to lack of space and competition with other bands for that space. The new list has all the important ones as far as I can tell.  All the suggestions were combed through. Some taken, some not.  I'll be sitting on the list and making any changes as any other suggestions come in.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2014 at 15:59
Didn't know the most popular RPI band was PFM, I know very little from them, I thought the most influential was Banco (I know very litlle from them too.) I know that Le Orme (my favourite RPI band so far) obviously don't deserve to be in this list.
 
I don't see Moody Blues nor Procol Harum in there too, I think it's because they were not so influential and popular isn't it? The same applies to Vangelis unfortunately.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2014 at 15:40
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2014 at 15:31
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:


we love El Diablo.  We both (I think both of us, I know me)  discovered them during a midset break at Nearfest. They were blaring something from Sing Along Songs at Nearfest and we both were floored by it.. it was like.. 'WFT is THAT. I have to have that group' LOL


I discovered them exactly the same way, I think it was the '10 edition.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2014 at 15:25
Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

Originally posted by bhikkhu bhikkhu wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

cool!  I'll take you up on that.  I've spent more time making good natured fun of it, and its listeners than actually listening to it and exploring it LOL

I'll flame you harder than the Camel fans if you dis Diablo!!   Angry

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we love El Diablo.  We both (I think both of us, I know me)  discovered them during a midset break at Nearfest. They were blaring something from Sing Along Songs at Nearfest and we both were floored by it.. it was like.. 'WFT is THAT. I have to have that group' LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2014 at 15:23
Originally posted by Lear'sFool Lear'sFool wrote:

This is gearing up to be a fun contest.

I'd add Death, Atheist, and maybe Voivod to a group of 64. Certainly Death was very popular and influential. In the end, we wouldn't want too much prog metal to miss out on a chance at the bracket.

I'd take Death over Atheist, both pioneers in the same genre but Death were more influential I feel. Good call on Voivod and might as well add Cynic and the original prog metal band, Watchtower.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2014 at 15:16
Originally posted by bhikkhu bhikkhu wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

cool!  I'll take you up on that.  I've spent more time making good natured fun of it, and its listeners than actually listening to it and exploring it LOL

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2014 at 15:14
Originally posted by bhikkhu bhikkhu wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

cool!  I'll take you up on that.  I've spent more time making good natured fun of it, and its listeners than actually listening to it and exploring it LOL

I'll flame you harder than the Camel fans if you dis Diablo!!   Angry

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2014 at 15:11
Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

This is a hell of a project. If you and Raff have the stomach for moderating a discussion/tourney like this, this should prove to be entertaining. I don't have any suggestions for the seedings that no one hasn't already thought of (ugh. Bad sentence structure), but I'll be tuning in and offering dumb comments here and there.


funny.  I got drafted for the site here by Ivan who found me toiling away on a website that tried to objectively rank prog artists by those very nebulous qualities. Impact, influence, popularity and have them apply in relative equal parts. It was entertaining and fun.

It is of course how I plan to do the seedings. Likely top 8 only (perhaps 16) Anything past that is just flipping coins as it really drops off once you get past the really big ones.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2014 at 15:08
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

cool!  I'll take you up on that.  I've spent more time making good natured fun of it, and its listeners than actually listening to it and exploring it LOL

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2014 at 15:07
This is a hell of a project. If you and Raff have the stomach for moderating a discussion/tourney like this, this should prove to be entertaining. I don't have any suggestions for the seedings that no one hasn't already thought of (ugh. Bad sentence structure), but I'll be tuning in and offering dumb comments here and there.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2014 at 15:03
Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

Great! The trolls are out in forceWink! It is really true that you can lead a horse to water... Well, you know the rest!


Raff, the actual Native American saying is "You can lead a horse to water but you can't throw it in the river". From the inside of a Mountain Dew bottle cap. LOL




Just curious, Steve: which bands/artists would you suggest instead of the ones you'd like to be replaced? Any suggestions are more than welcome!

Strawbs, Renaissance, and Oldfield from the old guard come to mind for quality, but not popularity, unfortunately. Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2014 at 15:03
Originally posted by bhikkhu bhikkhu wrote:

You could throw Diablo Swing Orchestra in there as a possible Cinderella.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2014 at 15:02
Originally posted by Tuzvihar Tuzvihar wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Tuzvihar Tuzvihar wrote:

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previous (unacknowledged) comment forgiven LOL

make that 4 glaring omissions, and you were the only one to catch it. Well done sir!!!

as far as Miles Davis.  See my conversation with David. He is on the site. I don't think he fits the poll, he dwarfs mere prog rock. He is a jazz artist, whose brilliance extended to progressive rock.


Thanks. Tongue

And. yes, I agree with your point about Miles. But I suggested him mainly because I can see only one Fusion band on your list, Micky (Mahavishnu Orchestra). So, how 'bout some other greats like Return To Forever or Weather Report?


Obviously with only 32, quite a few got left off. A few no brainers that should have been on a serious list, many more than could have easily been on it. There should be enough room now to expand it and catch most if not all that fell outside of the first 32 we thought up.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2014 at 14:59
cool!  I'll take you up on that.  I've spent more time making good natured fun of it, and its listeners than actually listening to it and exploring it LOL
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You could throw Diablo Swing Orchestra in there as a possible Cinderella.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2014 at 14:58
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Tuzvihar Tuzvihar wrote:

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previous (unacknowledged) comment forgiven LOL

make that 4 glaring omissions, and you were the only one to catch it. Well done sir!!!

as far as Miles Davis.  See my conversation with David. He is on the site. I don't think he fits the poll, he dwarfs mere prog rock. He is a jazz artist, whose brilliance extended to progressive rock.


Thanks. Tongue

And. yes, I agree with your point about Miles. But I suggested him mainly because I can see only one Fusion band on your list, Micky (Mahavishnu Orchestra). So, how 'bout some other greats like Return To Forever or Weather Report?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2014 at 14:57
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

Great! The trolls are out in forceWink! It is really true that you can lead a horse to water... Well, you know the rest!


Raff, the actual Native American saying is "You can lead a horse to water but you can't throw it in the river". From the inside of a Mountain Dew bottle cap. LOL


LOL

Just curious, Steve: which bands/artists would you suggest instead of the ones you'd like to be replaced? Any suggestions are more than welcome!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2014 at 14:53
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Lear'sFool Lear'sFool wrote:

This is gearing up to be a fun contest.

I'd add Death, Atheist, and maybe Voivod to a group of 64. Certainly Death was very popular and influential. In the end, we wouldn't want too much prog metal to miss out on a chance at the bracket.


the one we had years ago was a real hoot!

I might keep some slots open for prog metal groups over and above the few I have in.  It is an area I know very little about,  I'll shoot you over the list, if interested, and have you fill out some bands since you get the gist of the list. 

If you need any help, I'd be happy to. Thumbs Up
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2014 at 14:52
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

Great! The trolls are out in forceWink! It is really true that you can lead a horse to water... Well, you know the rest!


Raff, the actual Native American saying is "You can lead a horse to water but you can't throw it in the river". From the inside of a Mountain Dew bottle cap. LOL


hahaha.  I've never heard that one.  I like that better
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