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Points: 12625 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2006 at 00:42
Originally posted by Moatilliatta Moatilliatta wrote:

I suppose this would be a good place to ask...
 
I want to buy some Samla Mammas Manna music, but I'm stuck on which ones to buy. I have these three in mind: Maltid, Klossa..., and Familjesprickor. I don't want all three (at least not yet), but I can go for two. Which two?
 
Also, which is the best Miriodor album? I've been leaning towards Parade (+ Live at Nearfest) or Mekano.
 
I agree with Cucacola54 advice on Samla. If you want only one, the best choice is going chronologically from the choices you said.
 
Regarding Miriodor, I prefer Jongleurs Elastiques to Mekano. Parade is also a worthy to buy. All three are very good but the two top for me are Jongleurs and Parade.
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Originally posted by walrus333 walrus333 wrote:

I havent heard much of the RIO/Avant category except for Alamaailman Vasarat, and Captain Beefheart. Is there a difference between RIO and Avant prog?



RIO stands for Rock in Opposition and was a movement in the late 70s led by Henry Cow to show their opposition to the music industry.  Henry Cow started the festival which included the bands Henry Cow, Stormy Six, Samla Mammas Manna, Univers Zero, and
Etron Fou Leloublan.  Art Zoyd and Art Bears which was an offshoot of Henry Cow, would later join the movement.  The original festival featured bands with different styles and at the time at least, RIO referred to the movement rather than a specific style of music.  Now RIO has become synonymous with avant-prog which is why the two are smushed together here at the archives, but a true RIO purist will tell you that RIO music was a movement at a particular point in time that cannot be resurrected by other groups.  Newer avant prog groups such as the 5UU's, Miriodor, Thinking Plague and Guapo can be considered "RIO influenced" but not truly RIO themselves.  Avant-prog refers to music that came after the RIO movement that took what some avant garde bands did and ran with it.  Avant-prog although while being effectively synonymous with RIO to most people, is a much broader genre and includes all avant-garde rock.


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RIO stands for Rock in Opposition and was a movement in the late 70s led by Henry Cow to show their opposition to the music industry.  Henry Cow started the festival which included the bands Henry Cow, Stormy Six, Samla Mammas Manna, Univers Zero, and
Etron Fou Leloublan.  Art Zoyd and Art Bears which was an offshoot of Henry Cow, would later join the movement.  The original festival featured bands with different styles and at the time at least, RIO referred to the movement rather than a specific style of music.  Now RIO has become synonymous with avant-prog which is why the two are smushed together here at the archives, but a true RIO purist will tell you that RIO music was a movement at a particular point in time that cannot be resurrected by other groups.  Newer avant prog groups such as the 5UU's, Miriodor, Thinking Plague and Guapo can be considered "RIO influenced" but not truly RIO themselves.  Avant-prog refers to music that came after the RIO movement that took what some avant garde bands did and ran with it.  Avant-prog although while being effectively synonymous with RIO to most people, is a much broader genre and includes all avant-garde rock.


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IMO buy Maltid and Klossa first, then Famili and Kaka Thumbs Up
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Points: 3083 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2006 at 20:18
I suppose this would be a good place to ask...
 
I want to buy some Samla Mammas Manna music, but I'm stuck on which ones to buy. I have these three in mind: Maltid, Klossa..., and Familjesprickor. I don't want all three (at least not yet), but I can go for two. Which two?
 
Also, which is the best Miriodor album? I've been leaning towards Parade (+ Live at Nearfest) or Mekano.


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I havent heard much of the RIO/Avant category except for Alamaailman Vasarat, and Captain Beefheart. Is there a difference between RIO and Avant prog?
If anyone knows where I can get a copy of some Flute and Voice (Indo-Prog/Raga Rock) albums please PM me! Many thanks!
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Taal is my favourite band since I got to know them about an year ago. I do not think they are RIO. I do not know which subgenre they belong though.
 
Cro Magnon "Bull?" is becoming my all time favourite album of RIO.
 
And the best ever band from ex-USSR territory - Horizont - are one of finest and greatest RIO bands I ever heard.
 
Universe Zero, Art Zoyd, Ensemble Nimbus, Miriodor etc etc etc - are all very good, and there is one practically unknown band called "Les Projectionnistes" with their masterpiece album called "Copie Zero". Highly recommended!
 
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Question: shouldn't RIO and Avant-prog be seperated?
 
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Originally posted by Aaron Aaron wrote:

Originally posted by Aaron Aaron wrote:


Is RIO always as dark as UZ?

Aaron

I don't know Aaron, that's a good question.  Maybe someone here can enlighten us, so we don't have to find out for ourselves.

Aaron


Ha. The short answer is no.

The slightly less short answer is: go check out bands like Samla Mammas Manna, just to name one. No one would ever call them "dark".
    

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Originally posted by Aaron Aaron wrote:

 
Is RIO always as dark as UZ?
 
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I don't know Aaron, that's a good question.  Maybe someone here can enlighten us, so we don't have to find out for ourselves.
 
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Originally posted by Geck0 Geck0 wrote:

Just a quick question... 3/4 de Trio are under Art Rock, yet I've seen them likened to Taal... comments?
Nothing alike, really!!
 
4/3 de Trio is a sort of progressive Noir Desir (if that can helpEmbarrassed) I like their first album and the second is a posthumous release after the death of one of the member
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Guys, you mean Taal are great.

I hear they're in the studio, so I hope to expect an album soon, here's hoping!

I love Alamaailman Vasarat, what a fantastic band!  I cannot wait to hear Hoyry-kone.
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Does Zappa fall under RIO or Avant-Prog? What about Captain Beefheart?
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Banda Elastica is a Mexican band which has been influenced by those Big RIO artists, you can check them!
and yes... Taal is awesome!!Wacko

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Points: 12625 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2006 at 12:38
Originally posted by Geck0 Geck0 wrote:

Taal
Alamaailman Vasarat

Just to add two more.

Mr. Bungle as well.


Damn, I forgot to mention one of the best bands I heard in a while - Taal
Alamaailman Vasarat (as Jimbo told me: Hammers of the Underworld) is great as well.

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Taal
Alamaailman Vasarat

Just to add two more.

Mr. Bungle as well.
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To all loyal fans of all that is considered freak and disharmonic:
I am a fan of UZ and also Thinking Plague.
In Extremis is an exceptional album imo (I like less the album A History of Madness), and I don't have a UZ album I don't like (there are some I like less, but no album I think is bad)
5UU's is also one of my loved bands - I only have Crisis in Clay and Hunger's Teeth.
I also like Miriodor, particularly Jongleurs Elastique.
Ahvak's self titled is a very good album. (although I would have let the rare vocals out of it).
I have recently listened to Far out and Far East Family Band but I need more listens to fully appreciate it, although it sounds good on initial listens.
Of course Sleepytime... and Discus as well (less good than other bands, but entertaining nevertheless).
Hoyry Kone is another favourite (I love Finnish bands).
THere are more, but I'll stop here and I'll write them as this discussion evloves.
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No questions at the moment, but good to see you're still around, TP! Smile
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Dear Dr. TP,

every time I put a Henry Cow CD on, my girlfriend throws sharp objects at me.I am so desperate. Could you please tell me  what to do?

yours truly
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PS: The Canterbury team is  adding some lesser known  bands. Do you know the French Band 'Anaïd', and when yes would you file them under Canterbury or RIO?
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Points: 6667 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2006 at 09:45
Originally posted by Harkmark Harkmark wrote:

Regarding Myrbein: Check out this website, where you will find live recordings from 1979 as free mp3s, including their cover of "Larks tounges in aspic pt. II" from "Myrornas krig":
http://members.chello.se/anders.lonnkvist/myrbein/
Thanks for the link Harkmark. Clap Pretty nice stuff. Moreover, I found out that ProgArchives didn't list their homepage yet, so I added it to their entry:
 
 
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