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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 10 2006 at 08:15
Originally posted by Moatilliatta Moatilliatta wrote:

Originally posted by Black Velvet Black Velvet wrote:

That is a very nice list Thumbs Up.

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Just wondering who are Krakatoa? never heard of them.

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Krakatoa is a band on Cuneiform I discovered while perusing their page. They are very melodic and a lot of fun to listen to.
 
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Absolutely! Krakatoa is a very good band and, yes, lots of fun - their music is quite diverse, mixing high quality jazz-rock/fusion with some avant moments plus minor Crimson influences here and there. I only know and have their album "Plan Ahead" and I enjoy it immensly.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 10 2006 at 05:21
I ordered 5 Suns after hearing praises on this site comparing it to Crimson's Red & Univers Zero, and found that while it goes stylistically in this direction, it's a lot of bluster with few compositional chops to back it up...rather tedious ostinatos that go on and on, with little to say musically. I got the feeling they're pretty young, so maybe they'll develop into something good, but the comparisons are way premature.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 10 2006 at 03:40
I would go with
Ahvak
Miriodor
Guapo
Thinking Plague

and if you want a fifth one
Far Corner

All are excellent, though, tough choice.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 09 2006 at 20:32
Originally posted by Black Velvet Black Velvet wrote:

That is a very nice list Thumbs Up.

Of those these are the one I would suggest:

Ahvak - s/t
Deus ex Machina - Cinque
Far Corner - s/t
Thinking Plague - In Extremis

I'm not sure what Miriodors' new album sounds like, but if it is anything like 'Jongleries Elastiques' I would be tempted to put that on the list as well!

Just wondering who are Krakatoa? never heard of them.

Hope this helps
 
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Krakatoa is a band on Cuneiform I discovered while perusing their page. They are very melodic and a lot of fun to listen to.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 09 2006 at 19:55
That is a very nice list Thumbs Up.

Of those these are the one I would suggest:

Ahvak - s/t
Deus ex Machina - Cinque
Far Corner - s/t
Thinking Plague - In Extremis

I'm not sure what Miriodors' new album sounds like, but if it is anything like 'Jongleries Elastiques' I would be tempted to put that on the list as well!

Just wondering who are Krakatoa? never heard of them.

Hope this helps
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 09 2006 at 18:46
OK, here is what I'm down to for my next purchase (that are RIO/Avant Garde, or still along more experimental lines):
 
Ahvak - s/t
Deus ex Machina - Cinque
Far Corner - s/t
Guapo - Five Suns
Krakatoa - We Are the Rowboats
Matching Mole - s/t
Miriodor - Parade
Thinking Plague - In Extremis
 
I've put a handful off for later, but I'm stuck narrowing my list down for this one. If some of you can choose 3-5 off this list that would be the best choices I would appreciate it
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 09 2006 at 17:33
^^^
Well there is a similar insanity and the vocals are sometimes of the same nature (screaming senslessly LOL). But Zorn's album is more avant-garde in nature and more experimental, while Akineton remains closer to the album's theme and while they do experiment, they don't go as far as Zorn. And also, Zorn is kinda travelling between several type of music there and they just go on in the same vein all the album (not to mean they are stagnating, not at all - only they remain in the same type of music, the same genre). The comparison is valid, but with the appropriate word of caution.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 09 2006 at 17:26
Thanks for that... I have been looking at my local CD stores and it appears their s/t albums is the only one they stock in. So it makes the choice a little easier for the moment

In the biography they are likened to John Zorn's Naked City. How correct do you find this to be?
      
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 09 2006 at 15:05
I only have their first s/t album which I enjoy trememndously. I think it would be a great purchase. But people more konwledgeable about this band should tell you about their other albums (great saxes in their music).


When in doubt, go chronologically LOL


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 09 2006 at 14:45
Just ficking through some of the RIO/avant-garde bands.

One band that has caught my interests was:

AKINETÓN RETARD: they have some very good high reviews, and have nothing but praise from Cesar Inca (César Inca Mendoza Loyola). From reading this they seem right down my alley.

I was wondering which album people would suggest starting with?
    
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 09 2006 at 12:52
Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:

What do people here know of BEGNAGRAD ?

Seyo added this band from Yugoslavia and they have two releases listed here:
Begnagrad 1982
Tastare (Theoldwones) 1992 (recorded in 1976)

Only their s/t has reviews (one by Seyo) and he praises them.
I was wondering what others think of them?

 
I just listened to the sample on this site, and it was very fun/interesting.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 09 2006 at 11:42
Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:

What do people here know of BEGNAGRAD ?

Seyo added this band from Yugoslavia and they have two releases listed here:
Begnagrad 1982
Tastare (Theoldwones) 1992 (recorded in 1976)

Only their s/t has reviews (one by Seyo) and he praises them.
I was wondering what others think of them?

 
I love 'em. Really fun, vibrant and surprisingly listenable.
 
Sounds like I really need to be a-checkin' out EFL.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 09 2006 at 10:06
What do people here know of BEGNAGRAD ?

Seyo added this band from Yugoslavia and they have two releases listed here:
Begnagrad 1982
Tastare (Theoldwones) 1992 (recorded in 1976)

Only their s/t has reviews (one by Seyo) and he praises them.
I was wondering what others think of them?



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 08 2006 at 16:24
I'd get Ceux Du Dehors first, it's generally (and IMO correctly) regarded as their masterpiece. Heresie is also a good early release if you see it. Following that, Implosion, Uzed and Rhythmix in that order - oh, and to hear the reformed UZ at their best pick up a copy of Live, it's an absolute masterpiece!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 08 2006 at 16:01
I'm stuck on which Univers Zero albums to buy. I'm looking into Ceux Du Dehors, Uzed, Rhythmix and Implosion. They all sound fantastic, but I can't get all of them. Help please.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2006 at 02:06
For those interested in Debile Menthol it may be worth you while to check out L'Ensemble Rayé. Well at least their first two albums.

After Debile Menthol disbanded in 1985 Jean-Vincent Huguenin and Cedric Vuille decided to head off in a different direction froming the group L'Ensemble Rayé. Their deubt album Męme en Hiver/Comme un Pinson Dans L'Eau consisted of two sides, with each side of the disc devoted to compositions and arrangements by one of the pair. I personaly felt this gave them the opportunity the express themselves more clearly muscially than they were able to in the more band orientated environment.

Their second Album continued in vain of the sound of the first album with their style of RIO-flavored avant-rock and European folk-jazz.

I would not call any of their music overly ground breaking, but worth effort if you are interested in the former bands.

Beyond these two albums I have little knowledge and would be interested to see if their RIO influences have carried through their career?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2006 at 01:32
OopsEmbarrassed, I really thought they were French, but them being Swiss would make sense. I should've done my research.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2006 at 01:26
Originally posted by Zac M Zac M wrote:

They are  a French (I think) RIO band, similar in style to EFL. I think their albums may only be available on vinyl, not 100% sure though. It's on the RecRec label, so you can expect good things.



They're Swiss I believe.

Both Debile Menthol albums are available on CD in the 2-CD set Emile a la Campagne (the first album is Emile au Jardin Patrologique and the second is Battre Campagne - hence the name of the twofer). I quite like the first album, kind of wacky fun a la EFL and Samla. The second album is a bit more experimental and, in my mind at least, takes it a bit too far and is less successful. Still, a nice double CD set if you like this kind of weirdness.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2006 at 00:23

They are  a French (I think) RIO band, similar in style to EFL. I think their albums may only be available on vinyl, not 100% sure though. It's on the RecRec label, so you can expect good things.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2006 at 00:17
Hi Zac,
Who are Debile Menthol?
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