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Posted: May 02 2013 at 14:59
Dean wrote:
dr wu23 wrote:
A case for deconstruction.... especially for the material reductionists.
I know the people involved and this was not a hoax, so what did they experience?
Three boys aged 11-12 were playing on a farm in the midwest late afternoon by the barns on the property when they heard their uncles' hunting dogs suddenly start barking (they were penned up). They went around the side of the barn to ck on the dogs and saw a large 'ufo' hovering above their uncles farm fields. They went inside and got the parents who then came out to look and all of them watched this object just hover over the field about 200 hundred feet up for about 2 or 3 minutes then it slowly moved off then left very fast and was gone very quickly. It was described as your typical saucer shaped ufo with both gold and silver metal colors and was as large as a small house.
On the news later that night was a report that people saw 'ufos' over the area that day.
So what did these people see ?
There is insufficient information here to give any analysis to.
They saw a UFO. That is the simplest explanation because what they saw was Unidentified, it appeared to be Flying and it was apparently an Object - though neither of the last two points have been confirmed so to be more accurate what they saw just "Unidentified".
I could give a list of possible causes and explanations, all of which would be guesses based upon similar sightings and would all probably be incorrect because salient pieces of knowledge or observational data missing from your account could systematically eliminate them one by one while simultaneously adding to the pool of data that could indicate what it may have been.
Yesterday evening I saw an orange glow in the sky to the west, unless I give you more information you can only guess what I saw and what caused it.
I hoped for more from you Dean......so why not name a few of the things that you think it could have been since you don't believe it was an alien spacecraft...?
I might be able to give you more 'salient' pieces of info about the event.
btw, I'm not trying to put you on the spot here but I would really like to hear your ideas about what they might have experienced if it was not a real aircraft.
Edited by dr wu23 - May 02 2013 at 15:05
One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin
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Posted: May 02 2013 at 14:13
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
The fact that the things appeared to them as a "typical saucer shaped ufo" is immaterial. That is an imagine pounded into our heads through fictional depictions. It's easy for our brains to extrapolate based on limited information to produce that sort of an image which most likely has absolutely nothing to do with how an actual interstellar vehicle would be constructed.
Of course in recent years the "typical saucer shaped ufo" is becoming less typical as other shaped phenomina are being reported, such as spheres and rounded-triangles. Again all these are based upon the same extrapolations of what we imagine them to be rather than what they may be. Astronomical mirages for example are optical distortions of spherical objects that could be misconstrued as a variety of different shapes from spheroid to ovoid and the classic cigar-shape.
Whatever shape an actual interstellar vehicle would be, I cannot see why streamlining would play a major part in the design.
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Posted: May 02 2013 at 13:36
The fact that the things appeared to them as a "typical saucer shaped ufo" is immaterial. That is an imagine pounded into our heads through fictional depictions. It's easy for our brains to extrapolate based on limited information to produce that sort of an image which most likely has absolutely nothing to do with how an actual interstellar vehicle would be constructed.
"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Posted: May 02 2013 at 13:08
dr wu23 wrote:
A case for deconstruction.... especially for the material reductionists.
I know the people involved and this was not a hoax, so what did they experience?
Three boys aged 11-12 were playing on a farm in the midwest late afternoon by the barns on the property when they heard their uncles' hunting dogs suddenly start barking (they were penned up). They went around the side of the barn to ck on the dogs and saw a large 'ufo' hovering above their uncles farm fields. They went inside and got the parents who then came out to look and all of them watched this object just hover over the field about 200 hundred feet up for about 2 or 3 minutes then it slowly moved off then left very fast and was gone very quickly. It was described as your typical saucer shaped ufo with both gold and silver metal colors and was as large as a small house.
On the news later that night was a report that people saw 'ufos' over the area that day.
So what did these people see ?
There is insufficient information here to give any analysis to.
They saw a UFO. That is the simplest explanation because what they saw was Unidentified, it appeared to be Flying and it was apparently an Object - though neither of the last two points have been confirmed so to be more accurate what they saw just "Unidentified".
I could give a list of possible causes and explanations, all of which would be guesses based upon similar sightings and would all probably be incorrect because salient pieces of knowledge or observational data missing from your account could systematically eliminate them one by one while simultaneously adding to the pool of data that could indicate what it may have been.
Yesterday evening I saw an orange glow in the sky to the west, unless I give you more information you can only guess what I saw and what caused it.
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Posted: May 02 2013 at 11:02
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You know if I had interstellar travel capabilities, I wouldn't travel all the way to another planet simply to hover over somebody's farm for a few minutes. UFOs, cornfields, what's the attraction? I would find a story like this much more believable if they visited Stephen Hawking, or a world leader, even a history professor (although in such cases, that could just be the side effects of the pot ) or some other culturally or scientifically or politically significant person. Not just some hick in a cornfield. That makes no sense whatsoever.
If they can travel interstellar distances in craft that defy the natural laws of motion then you can bet your bibby (a technical term) that they'd be smart enough to not only pick a corn-field miles away from any civilisation or centres of cultural, scientific and political significance, they'd also ensure that whoever saw them did not posess a camera.
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Posted: May 02 2013 at 10:54
You know if I had interstellar travel capabilities, I wouldn't travel all the way to another planet simply to hover over somebody's farm for a few minutes. UFOs, cornfields, what's the attraction? I would find a story like this much more believable if they visited Stephen Hawking, or a world leader, even a history professor (although in such cases, that could just be the side effects of the pot ) or some other culturally or scientifically or politically significant person. Not just some hick in a cornfield. That makes no sense whatsoever.
Edited by The Doctor - May 02 2013 at 10:56
I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Posted: May 02 2013 at 10:49
A case for deconstruction.... especially for the material reductionists.
I know the people involved and this was not a hoax, so what did they experience?
Three boys aged 11-12 were playing on a farm in the midwest late afternoon by the barns on the property when they heard their uncles' hunting dogs suddenly start barking (they were penned up). They went around the side of the barn to ck on the dogs and saw a large 'ufo' hovering above their uncles farm fields. They went inside and got the parents who then came out to look and all of them watched this object just hover over the field about 200 hundred feet up for about 2 or 3 minutes then it slowly moved off then left very fast and was gone very quickly. It was described as your typical saucer shaped ufo with both gold and silver metal colors and was as large as a small house.
On the news later that night was a report that people saw 'ufos' over the area that day.
So what did these people see ?
One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin
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Dean wrote:
) or some other culturally or scientifically or politically significant person. Not just some hick in a cornfield. That makes no sense whatsoever.
