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Root_Pepper
Forum Groupie Joined: June 26 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 54 |
Posted: July 02 2006 at 05:54 |
I suggest those two Boredoms albums - if you're interested in more
OOIOO and Boredoms. If that's not what you're looking for, you might
not be satisfied. But if that's the sound you want, those two albums
are the pinnacle of it. I think I like Super Are more out of it and
Vision Creation Newsun, but I've listened to it more often so I'm more
familiar with it.
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Apsalar
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 06 2006 Location: gansu Status: Offline Points: 2888 |
Posted: July 02 2006 at 05:21 |
I was thinking you would enjoy the artwork after your comments on the Cerberus Shoal website. Our tastes in art seem to be something else we have in common
Tell me what you think of the OOIOO album Well I think the decision is going to come down to: OOIOO - Feather Float Boredoms - Vision Creation Newsun (was read up on some reviews on rateyourmusic.com and this has been rated one of there best). I don't know if anybody is interested in this, I found it on ebay. Quite expensive, but it is not going to be much use to me as I have neither paypal or credit card http://cgi.ebay.com.au/KNEAD-this-melting-happiness-LP-keiji-haino_W0QQitemZ4882623127QQihZ003QQcategoryZ91486QQssPageNameZWD2VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
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avestin
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 18 2005 Status: Offline Points: 12625 |
Posted: July 02 2006 at 03:49 |
That is some beautiful artwork in that booklet.
I actually think your description is good and I understand what you mean by the album being soothing and understanding the complexity hidden. I've some albums like that as well.
As soon as I can afford some cd buying and after my move to the US next month, I will be looking for these guys as well as for other Japanese Avantgarde bands.
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Apsalar
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 06 2006 Location: gansu Status: Offline Points: 2888 |
Posted: July 02 2006 at 03:27 |
Now that I have had a descent listen to OOIOO - gold and green, I thought I would give everybody an update on what I think of this album and the band as a whole.
First things first... I am qutie impressed by this album. I picked it up with the mention of some of the guys from The Boredoms being present. The overall sound is somewhat different from the Boredoms, a lot less frantic, but can still hear the influences. I find the album takes huge influences from the Psychedelic scene. So in turn this is a lot easier album to listen to than The Boredoms material. I know this might sound strange but I find this album quite soothing. To begin with the songs did seem quite simple, due to their more digestable manorisms, but the more you listen to this album you start to see the complexity hidden beneath the surface layer. I really like the vocals which I think are female. Overall just a really good album. I would think these guys should be considered to be on this site... I'm not say straight out they are prog, but I think I will have to give them a more indepth listen on the next little while to make my decision fully. But they are definately a band to have a think about and to discuss with a wider audience. Also I don't know if this is going to interest all the people who read and participate in this thread but there is some amazing artwork through out the booklet. I took some pictures the other day so people could see. I will post the links here and hopefully somebody gets some statisfaction out of these. Sorry about the quality of the pictures. http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i47/0oblackvelveto0/P1010359.jpg http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i47/0oblackvelveto0/P1010358.jpg http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i47/0oblackvelveto0/P1010357.jpg http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i47/0oblackvelveto0/P1010355.jpg http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i47/0oblackvelveto0/P1010354.jpg enjoy, also RP if you have anything you want to add about the band feel free to do so, as my description didn't turn out as good as I would have liked . |
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VanderGraafKommandöh
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Malaria Status: Offline Points: 89372 |
Posted: July 02 2006 at 02:34 |
There's something about a Crazy Juggler... but it sounds like Crazy Jongleurs... I'm not sure which it should be!
Then there is the Pretty Girls, Used Cars, Magazines... part also. I think there is an Ozzy-esque: Bark to the moon Edited by Geck0 - July 02 2006 at 02:36 |
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avestin
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 18 2005 Status: Offline Points: 12625 |
Posted: July 02 2006 at 02:16 |
When I get back tonight I'll copy some of Skymind's lyrics. Those in Mr. Green are incomprehensible to me.
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avestin
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 18 2005 Status: Offline Points: 12625 |
Posted: July 02 2006 at 02:15 |
In Skymind in the third song there is a line that says "Sets it in motion to dust". The female vocalist who sings it has such a French accent that the first time I heard it I was sure it was in French and it said C'est est une blah blah blah blah....
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Apsalar
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 06 2006 Location: gansu Status: Offline Points: 2888 |
Posted: July 02 2006 at 02:12 |
I must be me hallucinating then (I would not put it past me ), I did a little google search as well trying to find some lyrics and so far has been quite unsuccessful. I guess the next step is to listen to the album and write everything down. |
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VanderGraafKommandöh
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Malaria Status: Offline Points: 89372 |
Posted: July 02 2006 at 02:03 |
They sounded English to me! Both albums, as far as I can hear, have vocals in English.
The lyrics are something like: Where is Mister Green Where is Mister Grey Where is Mister Grey! I am sure they're in English. Let me do a Google search. Nothing found of worth... oh well. I've just read a review and it says that Mister Green is the nextdoor neighbour at a boisterous party and he's unhappy about the noise apparently... Edited by Geck0 - July 02 2006 at 02:04 |
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Apsalar
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 06 2006 Location: gansu Status: Offline Points: 2888 |
Posted: July 02 2006 at 02:00 |
I know I am amazed as well...and also very happy about it. I remember a while back, maybe a year ago now there was somebody who had just been to Australian and they started a thread hear about how Australia was a black hole to buy Prog Music The Avant-garde and Ambient/electronic (which happens to be Kraut rock/progressive electronic) have only rescently been added over the last six months. Which shows there must have been a demand for those types of CD's. I can literally spend hours in that store, I think you must visit us sometime. The Gothic and Metal sections are really good as well. So is there anything there that you would recommend? |
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Apsalar
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 06 2006 Location: gansu Status: Offline Points: 2888 |
Posted: July 02 2006 at 01:55 |
No I have neither of those albums. They will definately go on the list if you recommend them. |
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Apsalar
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 06 2006 Location: gansu Status: Offline Points: 2888 |
Posted: July 02 2006 at 01:54 |
Thanks for the steer clear of Wolf Eyes... I don't think I will be getting anything by then anytime soon. I think they are even pushing my limits a little too far The live track sounded like terribably recorded black metal and I cannot say the other track did anything for me either. I don't mind some music like that which takes a very noise orientated sound to their music, such as bands like Velvet Cacoon, but I didn't feel any atomsphere to the music which was a problem for me. Though maybe I will like them in time. Also with the lyrics with Mister Green, correct me if I am wrong but some of it sounded a little french? |
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VanderGraafKommandöh
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Malaria Status: Offline Points: 89372 |
Posted: July 02 2006 at 00:21 |
I don't even have the lyrics to either of Taal's albums, so any lyrics you can come up with, would be appreciated, Assaf!
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avestin
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 18 2005 Status: Offline Points: 12625 |
Posted: July 02 2006 at 00:01 |
I was browsing through the Red Eye store and I must say I am very impressed with their catalogue. I did not even imagine that there is such a store with so many unknown and off mainstream artists in existance. I must come to Australia at once...
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Root_Pepper
Forum Groupie Joined: June 26 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 54 |
Posted: July 01 2006 at 23:35 |
If you're looking for a Boredoms album, I suggest Super Are or Vision Creation Newsun. Do you have either one of those?
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avestin
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 18 2005 Status: Offline Points: 12625 |
Posted: July 01 2006 at 23:28 |
To Geck0 and Adam,
I have not been following the lyrics of Taal too much (mainly enjoying the music like Adam), so I am not in a position to enlighten anybody. The lyrics are really unreadable in the booklet. I will try to decipher some of it.
By the way, in Skymind the opening is a sort of reminiscence of Mister Green in that the opening is conjuring up sounds from the first album (Coornibus etc). Is Skymind a continuation of the story on Mr. Green?
Regarding your purchase, Adam, I have not looked yet, but I would refrain from the Wolf Eyes until you at least heard some of it. I got a negative impression from their music. Try here for some samples at the bottom of the page: http://www.subpop.com/scripts/main/bands_page.php?id=423
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Apsalar
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 06 2006 Location: gansu Status: Offline Points: 2888 |
Posted: July 01 2006 at 22:58 |
If it is not too much trouble I was wondering whether some of the guys on hear could give me a hand with my next purchase. I'm going to be heading off down to my local store sometime over the next few days, but I only want to buy one CD. From the selection my store has I was thinking getting another OOIOO or Boredoms album.
Here is the website for the store: http://www.redeye.com.au Just click on the Browse by Artist section and one of the choices should be Avant-garde, to see what is on shelf. I'm just wondering whether there are any great artist I am going past. Like does anybody know anything about the band, Throbbing Gristle or Wolf Eyes (I see they were on the possible entry list for the site)? If anybody could be a help it would be more than appreciated. p.s. I will writing something up tomorrow about my views on OOIOO along with some of the amazing artwork, I just need to listen to it a few more times tonight to get a bit more of a few for the album. |
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Apsalar
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 06 2006 Location: gansu Status: Offline Points: 2888 |
Posted: July 01 2006 at 22:37 |
Thank you for that. I did pick up the first part of the story. The section in the bar, followed by the drug experiences. But that is about as far as I got. I think it will take me a little longer to devise my own verision of what I think is happening, as I have been mainly focusing on the instrumental aspects. I think I will have to do some research into the meanings of the track titles as a lot of those words are not a part of my day to day vocaluary and I think that will help matters.
Haha... I'm not to sure about the Dream Theater influences. I only have two of their albums which have not been played in a few years, so being truthful I cannot really remember what their sound is like fully. Also I have never heard any The Moody Blues, my knowledge on most of the bigger prog/proto-prog bands is sub part. But I can understand where you are coming from with the White Willow. |
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VanderGraafKommandöh
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Malaria Status: Offline Points: 89372 |
Posted: July 01 2006 at 21:41 |
Ah, thanks for the in depth words, Adam, very much appreciated.
Yes, they have a lot of influences (both albums show different influences to each other as well). Would I be right in saying there maybe some Dream Theater influence in there? One of the flute passages reminds me of The Moody Blues and the symphonic passages also remind me of some stuff, which I cannot place. I'm really only into progressive metal as a genre, but I also enjoy my lighter metal touches, like Taal use. Other examples of similar metal passages are used by White Willow and Par Lindh Project. It's also the players are pretty virtuostic. One of the albums has a total of 10 musicians on it, but I think they've trimmed that number down a bit. I believe they also bring in guests for a lot of the parts. I read on their website a while back that they were in the studio, but this reference I can no longer find. Their website does include a 2006 lineup though, so that looks very promising. Apart from the fact they were in the studio, I know no more, unfortunatly. I do sincerely hope that their new material is on equal, or even higher footing to their current output. The storyline is mentioned in three sections. The first part, where I believe Mister Green is in a pub, or even in the band that you can hear playing in the background. You then hear walking and the door shut behind him. It then seems to me, that he takes some drugs. Barbituricus I believe is a reference to Barbiturates, so this idea could firt. I'm not sure what the Coornibus reference is however. He then becomes disorientated and high. The music heard is what is going on in his drug induced state. Then his friends begin to wonder where he is and the start of the middle section of the story, viz. No Way!, Mister Green and Mister Grey. Aspartamus could be a reference to Aspartame (which is the fizzy bit of soda drinks), but I've yet to really link all this in... Super Flat Moon is his come down it seems. There could well be a link between the use of the word Flat too (Flat Spectre). Of course there are some happy moments as well. I'm sure my synopsis is full of errors, so any enlightenment from yourself would be welcomed. Let me know your (and any others, like Assaf for example) thoughts about this. Keep on listening my friend and it may grow on you some more! |
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Root_Pepper
Forum Groupie Joined: June 26 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 54 |
Posted: July 01 2006 at 20:44 |
There, it works now! Great find!
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