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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2006 at 12:14
As for Finnegans Wake, apparentely I don't have as much as I thought... Embarrassed So I can't really help you there.
But if you go again here:
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7256&KW=belgian&PN=1
the thread started by Sean Trane on the Belgian Chamber Rock music, on page 3 you will find some posts on Finnegans Wake and to make a long story short Sean says there:
Finnegans Wake: my fave is 4th (a double Cd). Yellow is badly produced but very Canterbury-esque. Henry Krutzen has been around since the early 80's and has a few album that can be of interest to progheads. Syn-phonic should still have all four. I never heard Pictures.

I will give you later some names of composers.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2006 at 05:59
When time permits please do tell me more about these new composers. As you konw I am quite interested in the whole 20th Century classic scene. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2006 at 05:57
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Yeah, it's really exciting music slightly unconventional at times.
I received more similar composers I shuold listen to. Of course I forget their name right now Embarrassed
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2006 at 05:55
OK cheers for that you never know I might be up. Looking forward to hearing what you have to say. Also I though I would just let you know I'm really starting to get into the Steve Martland CD... a lot. This is really some fantastic stuff. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2006 at 05:50
Yes, but I need to relisten to it as its been a while. I'll tell you more tonight (my night, your early early morning).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2006 at 05:48
I was just browsing through some of the artist on Mellow Records and was quite startled by the statement made about Finnegans Wake - yellow

"ONE OF THE BEST BELGIAN ALBUM EVER, WITH ALL THE RIGHT MOVES.
MUSICALLY LIKE EZRA WINSTON, THULE, CARAVAN WITH ALSO A TOUCH OF LEGENDARY PINK DOTS."

This got me thinking, there a many good belgian bands which I know of so a statement like this has got to have some backing behind it. So I decided to have a check to see what this band is like and little to my knowledge they are listed on this site. There are very few reviews on the site which are all written by Sean Trane.  Also while searching if found a little information about the band which was interesting to read:


"Finnegans Wake is a progressive rock band (non symphonic) that started in 1993. The purpose was to develop an approach centered on the legacy of the past prestigious seventies bands blending with other influences, such as contemporary, folk and jazz references. The band started in Brussels (Belgium) and is now based in Natal (RN - Brasil) where Henry Krutzen moved in 2001.

This continent change brought some new lines in the band's direction with the leaving of Jean-Louis Aucremanne, one of the driving forces of the belgian based version of the band, and the arrival of Alexandre Moura-Barros as new Henry Krutzen's partner in composition.

The two first Finnegans Wake CDs ("Yellow" ans "Green") came out on Mellow italian prog rock label, the third one ("Pictures") on Musea french prog label and the fourth one ("4th") on Carbon7 belgian new music record company."

from www.henrykrutzen.com

I was wondering whether anybody had heard of this band other than Sean? Or which album might be worth while check out.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2006 at 01:22
I will work on getting that Hamster Theatre radio session up for people considering there seems to be some interest in the band.

I can agree with everything Assaf has said. I as well only own NoVa eXPReSS, I brought it in Russia and in the store there were both albums but unforuntaley I could only afford one of them so this was the one I chose. I brought it off remembering hearing some sound sample a few years ago which I loved, it really did sound like some real crazy stuff at the time. But these days I find the album quite sedate, though that is not to say I think badly of the album. It seems to be one of those albums I like to sit back at night and listen to, I know that sounds strange with a RIO orientated album but that is the feelings I get from the album. It would be interesting to see what their other album is like. On the site it doesn't get as high rated as their second album, but then again a lot of my favourites by artist don't have the highest ratings here.

This definately an album that I need to pay more attention to, it has sat in the pile of things to listen to for a little while now with only occasionaly plays. As a whole there is not anything overly rememberable about the album but I would agree it is definately a solid effort.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2006 at 01:07
Still need to hear Hamster Theater.
 
Another band - NeBeLNeST from France.
For some reason it is here in Symphonic but the Symphonic team is rearranging the genre these days and when they get to N (shortly) this will be rectified.
They are RIOesque in nature. I have only heard their second album - NoVa eXPReSS and at first it sounded like a jam session or pure improvisational album, but after a few listens I started to see the motives in the music and the main ideas in each track. They create a basic line to the track and revolve around it and add diversions from it to keep things interesting. They have a unique guitar sound that makes them stand apart from other groups and also recognizable due to this.
I am quite happy I got it, but I don;t think it is an essential album (at least yet).
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2006 at 00:53
I have heard OF Hampster Theater, but never HEARD them. I actually might go give them a sample listening online right now!

I know they opened for a concert of a Fred Frith, John Zorn, and Mike Patton collaboration this year .
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2006 at 00:50
http://noise.as

A link that might interest a few people.

Just another warning band that people might be turned off by Hijokaidan, they sound a little like the Wolf eyes.

http://www2.thewire.co.uk:8000/hijokaidan.mp3


Well anyway to get off the Japanese theme of things lately.. as it might be boring some people. I think this band have been talked about in the thread, but today I was listen to a little compilation Disc I had put together for myself a little while ago. And while listening to the disc I ran across some of Hamster Theatres material. I have don't have any albums by the band, but have a live live radio session recording they did for the USA radio station Kabaret. They do about an hour set, with talking in between so you not only listen to the band but learn about a bit about the guys as well. On the Kabaret site you can download the session for free, but unfortunately at the moment that section seems to be down.

I don't know if people are interested in hearing this? As I can upload it if people are interested, considering it is made free for the public to listen too there should not be a problem. The band doesn't do anything ground breaking in term of the RIO genre, but are a very fun and playful listening experiences.

Anyway tell me what you guys think?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2006 at 17:10
In light of the endless time I have at work to browse on the internet. I might try and find as much information about some of these band and post some stuff here later tonight, to help everybody work their way through all those bands. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2006 at 16:47
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Yes, but I do "have" Soul Discharge and Chocolate Synthesizer and this: Onanie Bomb Meets The Sex Pistols. All of which I haven't heard yet.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2006 at 16:43
Clap I got down to the third thing on the list and I already want to try one of them out.  Fush*tsusha "Keiji Haino's ultimate rock unit" how are we not to get excited. I will tell everybody what I think of the Boredoms CD when I get it. Just wondering Assaf, are Pop Tatari and Seadrum/House of Sun the only ones you have heard?

 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2006 at 07:44
That link is an overdose risk, I can't focus due to the amount of releases there, plus I don't know it all.
Thanks for the link, Adam.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2006 at 07:10
Wow, yes, fantastic find! A lot of work to shift through is right, but that always ends with the best results. Excited to browse this page you posted. Glad we share many similar tastes. Let me know how the Boredoms CD treats your fancy.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2006 at 06:55
I will check out John Zorn's label... I have breifly looked over the site a few times but not extensively. My knowledge might be little better now so hopefully I can make some links between bands.

I love Acid Mother's Temple. Have two of there albums and love them to death.

Well I think we have something in common them, I love it as well. I have only been listening to it for about a month now and it was a little like love at first site.

One second I will just find a link:

http://www.forcedexposure.com/labels/psf.japan.html

I don't know if you have looked at this page but it is Keiji haino's Label. I'm sure there would be plenty of worth while bands on the label. It is just going to take sometime to shift through all the bands.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2006 at 06:43
Similar to OOIOO and Boredoms? They definitely are their own sound, however I've heard some works by Acid Mother's Temple that have been comparable. I'll try and think of others like that. I too am relatively new to the Japanese Avant/Zeuhl scene, but I am absolutely in love with it.

Check out John Zorn's label at this website http://www.tzadik.com/ and click the bar that says "New Japan" along the top. Voila, welcome to the world of avant-garde Japan. You will find many artists worth listening to here! You can hear samples by typing in the artist or album names into http://www.amazon.com or http://www.barnesandnoble.com
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2006 at 06:25
I was kind of excepting it to be totally different. As the two CD's I have by them Pop Tatari and  Seadrum/House of Sun (my friend picked it up for me the other day) were at totally different spectrums of the Avant-garde sound. Haha I'm thinking I might be one of the people that enjoy those vocals on Pop Tatari, I get many as strange looks from people when they walk past my room LOL

Just wondering whether you could recommend any other Japanese bands which have similar sound to these two bands. As I want to keep expanding my knowledge on the Japanese Avant/Zeuhl scene. I'm really only quite new to it.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2006 at 06:11
Haha, their sound as a whole is definitely MUCH different from Pop Tatari. Think along the lines of Gold & Green by OOIOO, it's in the same vein, but with a more droning, psychadelic, journey setting. Both SA and VCN are those kinds of albums that are really just one song, despite having tracks. They blend together and are rather hypnotic. I'm sure VCN will be just as satisfying, it's just like I said, I haven't listened to it as often as SA so I haven't been able to give it as much of a chance. I'm sure you'll enjoy your purchase.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2006 at 06:02
Originally posted by Root_Pepper Root_Pepper wrote:

I suggest those two Boredoms albums - if you're interested in more OOIOO and Boredoms. If that's not what you're looking for, you might not be satisfied. But if that's the sound you want, those two albums are the pinnacle of it. I think I like Super Are more out of it and Vision Creation Newsun, but I've listened to it more often so I'm more familiar with it.


I'm definately interested in the sound of those to bands, especially The Boredoms. I would get both those Boredoms albums you suggested but unforunately Vision Creation Newsun is the only one is stock at the moment... hopefully Super Are is stocked sometime soon as I will definately want to pick it up. Oh also I was just wondering, are the vocals in those two albums similar to Pop Tatari? I hope so as I love those vocals so much Tongue
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