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zumacraig
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Posted: July 26 2013 at 20:45 |
Catcher10 wrote:
I like BC&SL and pretty much all the DT covers.....but yes except ADTOE. Although the inner gatefold on vinyl is pretty cool......matter of fact, all their vinyl cover art is much better than the jewel case versions....IMO Especially this one.......Fantastic!!! Again, IMHO....... |
TRUE! Those look great! Are the dynamics better on the vinyl?
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Cthulhu42
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Posted: July 26 2013 at 11:06 |
As far as DT covers go, I really like Scenes From a Memory, Train of Thought, and Octavarium, but most of the rest of them aren't very good.
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Posted: July 25 2013 at 21:30 |
jampa17 wrote:
CKnoxW wrote:
Ambient Hurricanes wrote:
The Octavarium cover is just cool because it has a Newton's Cradle on it. A Newton's Cradle can turn the most lame and pedestrian album cover (...or desk...or science class) into a wondrous and majestic extravaganza of nifty physics.
| I always liked the Octavarium artwork as a whole, It seemed very Hugh Syme-y all around. The Greatest Hit artwork was the same way for me. It's when BC&SL hit that I thought, "Hey, wait a minute..." His work on Snakes and Arrows was great too. S&A live? Not so much. | Speaking of BC&SL, the image of the fish in the glass and the elephant painting was quite cool. The rest was kind of meh to me. |
I just saw a video of an actual elephant painting a few months ago, and not just some random lines, but it was painting a perfectly identifiable... well, elephant. I don't know if the video could somehow have been faked, but it seemed pretty real to me. Yet, at the same time, it seems too incredible to be true.
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Catcher10
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Posted: July 25 2013 at 15:53 |
I like BC&SL and pretty much all the DT covers.....but yes except ADTOE. Although the inner gatefold on vinyl is pretty cool......matter of fact, all their vinyl cover art is much better than the jewel case versions....IMO Especially this one.......Fantastic!!! Again, IMHO.......
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zumacraig
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Posted: July 25 2013 at 12:08 |
The artwork for Rush's Caravan single is excellent. Much better than CA. That being said I much prefer paintings rather than computer generated stuff.
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jampa17
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Posted: July 25 2013 at 11:07 |
CKnoxW wrote:
Ambient Hurricanes wrote:
The Octavarium cover is just cool because it has a Newton's Cradle on it. A Newton's Cradle can turn the most lame and pedestrian album cover (...or desk...or science class) into a wondrous and majestic extravaganza of nifty physics.
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I always liked the Octavarium artwork as a whole, It seemed very Hugh Syme-y all around. The Greatest Hit artwork was the same way for me. It's when BC&SL hit that I thought, "Hey, wait a minute..." His work on Snakes and Arrows was great too. S&A live? Not so much.
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Speaking of BC&SL, the image of the fish in the glass and the elephant painting was quite cool. The rest was kind of meh to me.
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CKnoxW
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Posted: July 25 2013 at 10:27 |
Ambient Hurricanes wrote:
The Octavarium cover is just cool because it has a Newton's Cradle on it. A Newton's Cradle can turn the most lame and pedestrian album cover (...or desk...or science class) into a wondrous and majestic extravaganza of nifty physics.
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I always liked the Octavarium artwork as a whole, It seemed very Hugh Syme-y all around. The Greatest Hit artwork was the same way for me. It's when BC&SL hit that I thought, "Hey, wait a minute..." His work on Snakes and Arrows was great too. S&A live? Not so much.
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Ambient Hurricanes
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Posted: July 25 2013 at 10:16 |
The Octavarium cover is just cool because it has a Newton's Cradle on it. A Newton's Cradle can turn the most lame and pedestrian album cover (...or desk...or science class) into a wondrous and majestic extravaganza of nifty physics.
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Earendil
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Posted: July 25 2013 at 08:16 |
Ambient Hurricanes wrote:
Yeah, I would agree, I like the SC cover actually. But ADTOE had a very lame design in my opinion, with the overly bright cover and the clip art unicyclist...bleh. Not a bad idea really, but was executed poorly.
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I'd argue bad idea and poorly executed
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But BC&SL... That looks like a digital design student's final project, not the work of an established graphic artist |
This about sums it up
jampa17 wrote:
Octavarium was quite cool |
I do like the Octavarium cover, but I think the rest from the 2000's range from decent to bad.
Edited by Earendil - July 25 2013 at 08:19
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zeqexes
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Posted: July 25 2013 at 03:42 |
Ambient Hurricanes wrote:
jampa17 wrote:
Ambient Hurricanes wrote:
Earendil wrote:
Ambient Hurricanes wrote:
^Yeah, his DT covers have been quite a letdown, especially considering the good work he's done with Rush over the years. Though I'm not too crazy about the CA cover.
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I love the Moving Pictures cover, especially the back. Nothing says "Prog" like a triple entendre picture
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Yes, that one was brilliant; I personally think that the abstract bleakness of Grace Under Pressure was his high point in Rush's discography; Counterparts, A Farewell to Kings, Roll the Bones, and Vapor Trails were also excellent.
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I disagree a lot with these statements. Octavarium was quite cool, but I think that SC was great, I think the art was way better than the music. I mean, the whole concept of the ants was kind of cool. And the most recent work in ADToE has really cool stuff, like the old warrior in the desert and the cycleboy in the cliff and in the dock.
Maybe it's not quite for "proggies", but the art itself added something to the concept.
But of coruse, every inch of their work is quite analyzed but that's the essence of DT fans / haters.
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Yeah, I would agree, I like the SC cover actually. But ADTOE had a very lame design in my opinion, with the overly bright cover and the clip art unicyclist...bleh. Not a bad idea really, but was executed poorly.
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Agreed.
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CKnoxW
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Posted: July 25 2013 at 00:12 |
But BC&SL... That looks like a digital design student's final project, not the work of an established graphic artist
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Ambient Hurricanes
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Posted: July 24 2013 at 19:32 |
jampa17 wrote:
Ambient Hurricanes wrote:
Earendil wrote:
Ambient Hurricanes wrote:
^Yeah, his DT covers have been quite a letdown, especially considering the good work he's done with Rush over the years. Though I'm not too crazy about the CA cover.
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I love the Moving Pictures cover, especially the back. Nothing says "Prog" like a triple entendre picture
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Yes, that one was brilliant; I personally think that the abstract bleakness of Grace Under Pressure was his high point in Rush's discography; Counterparts, A Farewell to Kings, Roll the Bones, and Vapor Trails were also excellent.
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I disagree a lot with these statements. Octavarium was quite cool, but I think that SC was great, I think the art was way better than the music. I mean, the whole concept of the ants was kind of cool. And the most recent work in ADToE has really cool stuff, like the old warrior in the desert and the cycleboy in the cliff and in the dock.
Maybe it's not quite for "proggies", but the art itself added something to the concept.
But of coruse, every inch of their work is quite analyzed but that's the essence of DT fans / haters.
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Yeah, I would agree, I like the SC cover actually. But ADTOE had a very lame design in my opinion, with the overly bright cover and the clip art unicyclist...bleh. Not a bad idea really, but was executed poorly.
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jampa17
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Posted: July 24 2013 at 19:14 |
Ambient Hurricanes wrote:
Earendil wrote:
Ambient Hurricanes wrote:
^Yeah, his DT covers have been quite a letdown, especially considering the good work he's done with Rush over the years. Though I'm not too crazy about the CA cover.
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I love the Moving Pictures cover, especially the back. Nothing says "Prog" like a triple entendre picture
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Yes, that one was brilliant; I personally think that the abstract bleakness of Grace Under Pressure was his high point in Rush's discography; Counterparts, A Farewell to Kings, Roll the Bones, and Vapor Trails were also excellent.
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I disagree a lot with these statements. Octavarium was quite cool, but I think that SC was great, I think the art was way better than the music. I mean, the whole concept of the ants was kind of cool. And the most recent work in ADToE has really cool stuff, like the old warrior in the desert and the cycleboy in the cliff and in the dock. Maybe it's not quite for "proggies", but the art itself added something to the concept. But of coruse, every inch of their work is quite analyzed but that's the essence of DT fans / haters.
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Change the program inside... Stay in silence is a crime.
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Ambient Hurricanes
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Posted: July 22 2013 at 22:41 |
Earendil wrote:
Ambient Hurricanes wrote:
^Yeah, his DT covers have been quite a letdown, especially considering the good work he's done with Rush over the years. Though I'm not too crazy about the CA cover.
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I love the Moving Pictures cover, especially the back. Nothing says "Prog" like a triple entendre picture
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Yes, that one was brilliant; I personally think that the abstract bleakness of Grace Under Pressure was his high point in Rush's discography; Counterparts, A Farewell to Kings, Roll the Bones, and Vapor Trails were also excellent.
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CKnoxW
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Posted: July 22 2013 at 22:32 |
Ambient Hurricanes wrote:
^Yeah, his DT covers have been quite a letdown, especially considering the good work he's done with Rush over the years. Though I'm not too crazy about the CA cover.
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Most of the art in CA is pretty "eh" as well. I wonder what his deal is! It's kind of like since he's become purely Photoshop based his quality has steadily declined.
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Earendil
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Posted: July 22 2013 at 22:27 |
Ambient Hurricanes wrote:
^Yeah, his DT covers have been quite a letdown, especially considering the good work he's done with Rush over the years. Though I'm not too crazy about the CA cover.
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I love the Moving Pictures cover, especially the back. Nothing says "Prog" like a triple entendre picture
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Ambient Hurricanes
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Posted: July 22 2013 at 21:57 |
^Yeah, his DT covers have been quite a letdown, especially considering the good work he's done with Rush over the years. Though I'm not too crazy about the CA cover.
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CKnoxW
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Posted: July 22 2013 at 20:21 |
Earendil wrote:
Yeah considering their prestige, you'd think they'd have a good artist do their stuff. It seems like they don't give a sh*t what gets put on there on a lot of their albums |
The funniest part is that Hugh Syme has done all of their art since Octavarium. I love Hugh Syme, but apart from Octavarium, the other covers have been a little... not so good haha
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CKnoxW
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Posted: July 22 2013 at 20:17 |
Dream Theater is getting far too heavy for my tastes recently and ever since Systematic Chaos, the albums have have had really fantastic material and really boring material.They've been embraced by the metal community and I feel like they've been catering more towards them recently instead of their prog fans. They're leaning more toward the technical side of things than the actual musical lately. Hell, I'd go as far as just calling them technical rock/metal now instead of progressive.
The above statement in no way means I'm not super excited for the new album release. On the contrary, I'm anxious to hear what it's going to be like with Mangini as a full fledged member.
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Posted: July 15 2013 at 23:18 |
darkshade wrote:
Guys, this is the logo
This is the Majesty symbol
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From a marketing perspective both are logos....The bottom one is a symbol, the top one is a title mark, word mark or word graphic...for example: NIKE is the company name and a wordmark graphic. The "swoosh" is the company logo, usually both used together. With regard to Dream Theater, the symbol is related to the "company" Dream Theater....both refer to the same thing, from a marketing perspective, I am sure its what they prefer.
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