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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Back to reality. Great Britain is now under a Tier 4 lockdown due to this new variant strain of covid. I'm trying to get more details from my in-laws in Newcastle. Very sad news as I'm not sure the new vaccine will help.

It's been said that there is no evidence that the new vaccine will be ineffective against this new strain, but they don't know for sure. It's not supposed to be any more dangerous to health but it spreads 70% more than the original.
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This...
...makes a lot of sense to me.

By the way I heard/saw a number of scientists saying that they are not very concerned about the "new strain". As far as I know there is nowhere near conclusive evidence yet that it's in any way worse than what had so far, not even regarding ability to spread. The "news" that this spreads much faster is based on, let's say, anecdotal evidence for which there could easily be other explanations,. According to an Italian scientist interviewed today on the radio, Matt Hancock and the British media exaggerated what is known to some sensationalist newsfeed. Obviously we do not know either that it's harmless, just to be sure... but then we know very little about anything generally. Cool
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The script is following that of the Spanish Flu.  This is the second outbreak in the works.  And I fear our collective response is going to be similar to what it was then.  Fatigue will push people into practicing civil disobedience and giving a wide berth to the necessary precautions.  And the disease won't stop until it's burnt through enough people.  One just hopes it WILL stop at that time. It's too scary to contemplate what will happen if it keeps mutating and evading vaccines. 
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Back to reality. Great Britain is now under a Tier 4 lockdown due to this new variant strain of covid. I'm trying to get more details from my in-laws in Newcastle. Very sad news as I'm not sure the new vaccine will help.
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^ I read about so-called 'scalar energy' a while back on another conspiracy site linked to by someone on a forum....it doesn't exist as such or at least is unproven and is a term to descibe field theory and math and physics features (as in  the higgs boson which is in question itself.)..but then the conspiracy people will just say ..it's a conspiracy to keep us all in the dark......sound familiar?

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Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

There's a lot of BS going around....btw I guess Trump and his right hand cronies must not be in on the inside  'Illuminati Medical Conspiracy ' with the elites  that some here believe in,  since they all got Covid.....or they forgot to wear their tin foil hats the day that the 'Evil Cartel' fired their scalar rays at us all in America.

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You obviously understand nothing about scalar energy. Why don't you research the topic more and realize the potentials? Evil exists because good people do nothing and ignore it. I understand it's always easier to laugh off things that are complex to understand . It's a psychological reaction to protect you from comprehending the implications and ramifications of any given situation at hand.

Here is a beneficial use of longitudinal magnetic waves. Use your imagination how this technology could be used for nefarious purposes.


Do you even know what "scalar" means? Apparently not, else you would know that all energy is scalar.

"Scalar energy" is a confusing usage. They're talking about longitudinal waves, which are also called scalar waves. And yes, all mass and energy are scalar quantities as opposed to momentum being a vector quantity. The preface of Bahman Zohuri's book Scalar Wave Driven Energy Applications gives a good description of it:
https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/bfm%3A978-3-319-91023-9%2F1.pdf (this is a download link for a PDF of the preface). Springer is a reliable and well-known publisher of science books.

We had a short discussion about this in the "Age of Aquarius" thread that also confused me as well. 
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Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

There's a lot of BS going around....btw I guess Trump and his right hand cronies must not be in on the inside  'Illuminati Medical Conspiracy ' with the elites  that some here believe in,  since they all got Covid.....or they forgot to wear their tin foil hats the day that the 'Evil Cartel' fired their scalar rays at us all in America.

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You obviously understand nothing about scalar energy. Why don't you research the topic more and realize the potentials? Evil exists because good people do nothing and ignore it. I understand it's always easier to laugh off things that are complex to understand . It's a psychological reaction to protect you from comprehending the implications and ramifications of any given situation at hand.

Here is a beneficial use of longitudinal magnetic waves. Use your imagination how this technology could be used for nefarious purposes.


Do you even know what "scalar" means? Apparently not, else you would know that all energy is scalar.

To be a little bit more precise, energy is a scalar quantity. That is a more accurate definition of what you are trying to say.

Yes, energy is by definition scalar.


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Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

There's a lot of BS going around....btw I guess Trump and his right hand cronies must not be in on the inside  'Illuminati Medical Conspiracy ' with the elites  that some here believe in,  since they all got Covid.....or they forgot to wear their tin foil hats the day that the 'Evil Cartel' fired their scalar rays at us all in America.

LOL


You obviously understand nothing about scalar energy. Why don't you research the topic more and realize the potentials? Evil exists because good people do nothing and ignore it. I understand it's always easier to laugh off things that are complex to understand . It's a psychological reaction to protect you from comprehending the implications and ramifications of any given situation at hand.

Here is a beneficial use of longitudinal magnetic waves. Use your imagination how this technology could be used for nefarious purposes.


Do you even know what "scalar" means? Apparently not, else you would know that all energy is scalar.

To be a little bit more precise, energy is a scalar quantity. That is a more accurate definition of what you are trying to say.
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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

There's a lot of BS going around....btw I guess Trump and his right hand cronies must not be in on the inside  'Illuminati Medical Conspiracy ' with the elites  that some here believe in,  since they all got Covid.....or they forgot to wear their tin foil hats the day that the 'Evil Cartel' fired their scalar rays at us all in America.

LOL


You obviously understand nothing about scalar energy. Why don't you research the topic more and realize the potentials? Evil exists because good people do nothing and ignore it. I understand it's always easier to laugh off things that are complex to understand . It's a psychological reaction to protect you from comprehending the implications and ramifications of any given situation at hand.

Here is a beneficial use of longitudinal magnetic waves. Use your imagination how this technology could be used for nefarious purposes.


Do you even know what "scalar" means? Apparently not, else you would know that all energy is scalar.


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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

There's a lot of BS going around....btw I guess Trump and his right hand cronies must not be in on the inside  'Illuminati Medical Conspiracy ' with the elites  that some here believe in,  since they all got Covid.....or they forgot to wear their tin foil hats the day that the 'Evil Cartel' fired their scalar rays at us all in America.

LOL


You obviously understand nothing about scalar energy. Why don't you research the topic more and realize the potentials? Evil exists because good people do nothing and ignore it. I understand it's always easier to laugh off things that are complex to understand . It's a psychological reaction to protect you from comprehending the implications and ramifications of any given situation at hand.

Here is a beneficial use of longitudinal magnetic waves. Use your imagination how this technology could be used for nefarious purposes.

https://www.oatext.com/anti-aging-by-longitudinal-magnetic-waves-a-new-approach-by-modulating-atp-levels.php#gsc.tab=0


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Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

The fact that there were nazi sympathizers in the US is well known, there were lots of them. It took the US a long time to decide which side they were going to be on. Many US citizens have roots in Germany, they were not keen on dropping bombs on their relatives.
Even in my own family, my Mom's parents were opposed to fighting the Germans because their parents were from Germany.


Exactly. You're touching on the complexities of all of this. In many ways, the US collaborated with the nazis who wouldn't have been as successful as they were without corporations funding the cause. Ford funded manufactured the tanks for example but it goes much deeper. This book is just one of many. It also seems that these ties go much deeper than previously thought. The most successful Houdini act of the nazis probably resulted from the MK Ultra mind control projects of which the media or modern television played a vital role in crafting a narrative. This stuff only gets more sickening as you venture into it Ouch

I'm still not buying it. This implies that at some point of his or her education a future doctor gets told: "Here are some lies you have to spread to everyone". This is ridiculous.


You obviously haven't been to medical school. I discovered mistruths being told to me while i was going to college and after having done research it turns out that the US and Canada adopted the Prussian educational system in the early 1900s. Brought to us by robber barons such as Henry Ford, a known Prussian / Nazi sympahtizer, the system was hijacked in order to dumb us down to become cogs in a system. The medical system is chock full of well-intended people who become medical professionals for the right reasons but the system is designed to be profitable therefore preventative measures are rarely taken. When you study the pyramid structure of power it all falls into place. Science and medicine only research that which is funded. Where do you think the funding comes from? Therefore most doctors and nurses do their jobs believing they are doing what's best for the patients but a few free thinkers realize something isn't right and either quit their profession or become whistleblowers, which there have been many. The whole nature viruses is one of the greatest lies ever sold to not only the public but the doctors as well.

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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

There's a lot of BS going around....btw I guess Trump and his right hand cronies must not be in on the inside  'Illuminati Medical Conspiracy ' with the elites  that some here believe in,  since they all got Covid.....or they forgot to wear their tin foil hats the day that the 'Evil Cartel' fired their scalar rays at us all in America.

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There's a lot of BS going around....btw I guess Trump and his right hand cronies must not be in on the inside  'Illuminati Medical Conspiracy ' with the elites  that some here believe in,  since they all got Covid.....or they forgot to wear their tin foil hats the day that the 'Evil Cartel' fired their scalar rays at us all in America.

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Allegations like this can only be made by people who are not aware of scientific procedure. You can not just claim something; you have to conduct a controlled experiment like a medical study. And as soon as some scientist(s) come(s) up with a study other scientists will try to verify the results of this study. This is how science works; anything else is just BS.


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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:


You're missing the point. There is a long list of similarly qualified individuals who are saying the exact same thing. She's not saying that nobody died during the summer but rather that these deaths are fraudulently attributed to a condition labeled as covid-19. Absolutely nobody of any stature has said covid doesn't exist. They are saying it has been politicized to paint a false narrative. When you are cranking your numbers you are making certain assumptions.

This doesn't make the manipulative presentation of data go away. At no point does she refer to WHO data as fraudulent (she only says something hand-waving about some potentially wrongly attributed cases, without making explicit reference to the data she is presenting), and she uses data with flexible end points that all stop before death numbers go up first (in March) or up again (in August/September).
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^Me too..they can be amusing... ..not taking sides on tis discussion but this oft used quote popped into my head and I suppose one can use it on either side of the issue...
“Don't try and teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time, and it annoys the pig."

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Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Message deleted as it seems to be a non-sequitur at this point of the conversation.

Could you send me a PM? I love non-sequiturs! Tongue
Well how about; Thanks to hollywood donald there's probably more nazis in the US now than there were in Germany, but that's not really helping the flow of this conversation is it.
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All of this anti-science and anti-medical knowledge propaganda is one part of the trumpateers' legacy, and so are today's nazis. One should be careful of the bedfellows you keep.

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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

The fact that there were nazi sympathizers in the US is well known, there were lots of them. It took the US a long time to decide which side they were going to be on. Many US citizens have roots in Germany, they were not keen on dropping bombs on their relatives.
Even in my own family, my Mom's parents were opposed to fighting the Germans because their parents were from Germany.


Exactly. You're touching on the complexities of all of this. In many ways, the US collaborated with the nazis who wouldn't have been as successful as they were without corporations funding the cause. Ford funded manufactured the tanks for example but it goes much deeper. This book is just one of many. It also seems that these ties go much deeper than previously thought. The most successful Houdini act of the nazis probably resulted from the MK Ultra mind control projects of which the media or modern television played a vital role in crafting a narrative. This stuff only gets more sickening as you venture into it Ouch

I'm still not buying it. This implies that at some point of his or her education a future doctor gets told: "Here are some lies you have to spread to everyone". This is ridiculous.


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