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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 16 2006 at 08:05
Originally posted by Black Velvet Black Velvet wrote:

Originally posted by Joren Joren wrote:



Originally posted by Black Velvet Black Velvet wrote:

Thanks James I will have a look at those links soon and hopeful be able to have a few samples again of their music.


Also I have been meaning to ask you something Joren. I know the band Smegma are hopefully being added to the database which I am very happy about, I love their album "Glamour Girl 1941". I got sent this album just a little while back "Smegma - Schrammel Oi!" and I was wondering whether this is the same band or not as it is an abrupt changing in styles if it is?
Yeah I've heard "Schrammel Oi" as well... Assaf owns it. It definitely is a different band. If you search for the cover on google you'll soon find out. They're a bunch of skins/oi! punks from Germany I believe.


*phew* This comes as good news, I really was hoping the fantastic band who recorded "Glamour Girl 1941" had not fallen to these depths. By the way, what did you think of the band? (the Avant-jazz one)
    


I think you don't know because of whom it is that we're all talking about Smegma now. Well, because of me, actually. LOL

About a year and half ago, I stumbled upon this album called "Smell The Remains" by Smegma. I decided to give it a try just because of the band's name. I got slightly addicted to the strange music, so I ordered the "Glamour Girl 1941 + Pigface Chant" compilation and soon after I found "The Mad Excitement, The Barbaric Pulsations, The Incomparable Rhythms Of Smegma" on the internet, being sold second hand. I have been walking around with the idea of including them on PA for a long time (about a year I think), but I had always thought that nobody would agree with their inclusion. That is, until the RIO/Avant-team was founded. When I heard David's and Assaf's reactions, I was pleasantly surprised. And now a bunch of people is even discussing them in the prog lounge! who would've thought...? LOL

Anyway, I suppose you've seen their (unofficial) website as well?:

http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Gala/8418/smegdex1.html

PS I would like to take the opportunity to state that I would really like to add Smegma myself. Of course I will finish Zorn's discography first (and maybe write a Boredoms bio...?), but after that, Smegma are on the top of my list. Big smile So: all RIO-team members: hands off! Tongue


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 16 2006 at 07:57
Originally posted by Root Pepper Root Pepper wrote:

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That night I went to John Zorn and Acoustic Masada with a friend (more specifically: a female friend - yes, they really exist: women who like avant-garde music! Tongue). It was an amazing concert. Of course I already knew what John Zorn was capable of, but he still managed to surprise me. Some of his playing was absolutely stunning! Joey Baron (drums) was also very impressive. He even gave a few headbutts a la Zidane (no kidding). LOL The only minor point was that the concert was so short: only one hour and 20 minutes. But hey, I'm not complaining... Amazing show! Clap


Lucky!! How do people keep track of Zorn's touring schedule? I always fear I'll miss a nearby concert due to the fact it's such hard info to find.

Oh, and that Fantômas album, "Directors Cut" is great fun LOL


I came across an anouncement for the show by accident. Lucky me. I think I would have tore my eyes out if I had missed that. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 16 2006 at 07:30
My brother saw them live earlier this year I believe.  Lucky man!  I wished I'd gone now.

However, I've changed my mind and now don't think they're avant-prog.  The first track and the "hidden track" (part of the final track), are avant-prog, but I don't think the rest of the album makes them avant-rock.

However they're an excellent band and a very enjoyable listen indeed.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 16 2006 at 06:32
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To my ears so far, Polar Bear is Avant-prog!

I guess the finer nuances of their music may decide their fate however.
 
I've been mightily impressed by what I've heard of Polar Bear so far. I hope to catch them live sometime soon. I saw the offshoot Fulborn Teversham supporting Guapo earlier this year, and I included a bit about them in my review http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=17520 . Enjoyable stuff - Seb Rochford is a skillful drummer and Pete Wareham is an impressive saxophonist.
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I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 16 2006 at 05:53
I know how you are feeling with the drowned in music aspect. Along with the RIO muisc I have been listening to a lot underground experimental works. Some of which I might talk about here soon, as I think it would interest at least a few people on the site.

The "Flying Luttenbachers" is sounding very good at the moment, they are very noisy which at times reminds me of the more Japanese orientated Zeuhl. But definately someting for the team to have think about. If you need any sound samples you know where to ask
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 16 2006 at 05:36
Hi Adam,
Sounds very interesting. Brandon calls it "brutal prog / noise-zeuhl"
This is more than enough to make me instantly interested.
I find myself drowned in new music and as Root Pepper said, I don't know where to start.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 16 2006 at 03:46
Assaf, that does sound interesting. I just spent about 30 mins then on their site having a ball playing with all the little flash features. It is always enjoyable when a band puts that extra little effort into their presentation, both throughout there album booklets (which by the way was stunning) and websites. I will have a read of the review sometime soon. And also to be a pest once again, could you post the myspace link in the other formate so I access their page? Thanks.

Today I wanted to share with everybody and album my friend gave to me the other day.

Flying Luttenbachers - Infection and Decline



1.     Infektion
2.     Elfmeros
3.     Into The Vastness Of Stupidity
4.     Elimination Of Incompetence, The
5.     Destruktion Ritual
6.     De Futura

Those farmilar with Magma will notice the last track as the last track off "Üdü Wüdü". The band has done a very conmendable cover of this song, not to mention far more intense. I have only listen to the CD a few times now and their sound is very hard to narrow down into one genre, by overall a quite progressive CD. So I will leave you with a review:

www.progreviews.com/reviews/display.php?rev=tfl-iad

This will explain things a lot better than I could at this early stage of listening to them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 16 2006 at 00:12
We talked about an Israeli Klezmer Avantgarde group in page 5 called KRUZENSHTERN & PAROHOD
 
Well yesterday I happened to find them in a small record shop (with some other fine prog albums but that is besides the point).
The artwork is beautiful (not very good representation here, but you can get a clue)
They have two studio albums out and one live.
At the bottom of the post there are some links and in those you can hear some full songs by them to get an impression.
 
I added them to Ratingfreak, so Joren, could you add them to our list (as well as the other suggestions made in this thread? Thanks).

KRUZENSHTERN & PAROHOD

The Craft of Primitive Klezmer:







Songs:





 
 
 
 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 15 2006 at 19:32
Originally posted by Joren Joren wrote:


That night I went to John Zorn and Acoustic Masada with a friend (more specifically: a female friend - yes, they really exist: women who like avant-garde music! Tongue). It was an amazing concert. Of course I already knew what John Zorn was capable of, but he still managed to surprise me. Some of his playing was absolutely stunning! Joey Baron (drums) was also very impressive. He even gave a few headbutts a la Zidane (no kidding). LOL The only minor point was that the concert was so short: only one hour and 20 minutes. But hey, I'm not complaining... Amazing show! Clap


Lucky!! How do people keep track of Zorn's touring schedule? I always fear I'll miss a nearby concert due to the fact it's such hard info to find.

Oh, and that Fantômas album, "Directors Cut" is great fun LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 15 2006 at 19:22
To my ears so far, Polar Bear is Avant-prog!

I guess the finer nuances of their music may decide their fate however.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 15 2006 at 19:11
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I love the name Smegma, haha.  Look it up in the dictionary


Oh dear, yes I am well awear of the definition behind that word and also found it amusing that someone would decide to call a band by this name. Great band neverless and obviously with a sense of humour!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 15 2006 at 19:07
I came across a similar problem earlier.

I was on last.fm and saw there was a free tune available by Wobbler.  I played the track and was astounded!  It was awful awful drum 'n' bass kind of stuff (but ambient, kind of like Portishead).  I thought: surely this isn't the same band that brought out Hinterland?

I looked at the profile and thankfully, it wasn't.  It was some dude on a laptop.

The name of the track sounded Norwegian too and that also threw me!

I love the name Smegma, haha.  Look it up in the dictionary LOL


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 15 2006 at 19:03
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Originally posted by Black Velvet Black Velvet wrote:

Thanks James I will have a look at those links soon and hopeful be able to have a few samples again of their music.


Also I have been meaning to ask you something Joren. I know the band Smegma are hopefully being added to the database which I am very happy about, I love their album "Glamour Girl 1941". I got sent this album just a little while back "Smegma - Schrammel Oi!" and I was wondering whether this is the same band or not as it is an abrupt changing in styles if it is?
Yeah I've heard "Schrammel Oi" as well... Assaf owns it. It definitely is a different band. If you search for the cover on google you'll soon find out. They're a bunch of skins/oi! punks from Germany I believe.


*phew* This comes as good news, I really was hoping the fantastic band who recorded "Glamour Girl 1941" had not fallen to these depths. By the way, what did you think of the band? (the Avant-jazz one)
    
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 15 2006 at 19:01
I'm not sure which album Afro Blue is on, but it's not written by Coltrane.  I forget who wrote it.  It's an amazing tune though, so check it out!

My Favorite Things was of course written by Rogers and Hammerstein for The Sound of Music, which is a film I loathe!

Coltrane's version is delightful however.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 15 2006 at 18:59
Originally posted by Black Velvet Black Velvet wrote:

Thanks James I will have a look at those links soon and hopeful be able to have a few samples again of their music.


Also I have been meaning to ask you something Joren. I know the band Smegma are hopefully being added to the database which I am very happy about, I love their album "Glamour Girl 1941". I got sent this album just a little while back "Smegma - Schrammel Oi!" and I was wondering whether this is the same band or not as it is an abrupt changing in styles if it is?


Yeah I've heard "Schrammel Oi" as well... Assaf owns it. It definitely is a different band. If you search for the cover on google you'll soon find out. They're a bunch of skins/oi! punks from Germany I believe.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 15 2006 at 18:58
Originally posted by Geck0 Geck0 wrote:

You have to listen to Gov't Mule (and guests) version "Afro Blue", it's great!  It's three electric guitar players, bass, saxophone and drums.  Excellent stuff (I've heard two version of it by them actually).

Coltrane's version of "Our Favorite Things" is superb, yet still reminds me of The Sound of Music (grrr!).


Hmm I don't know "Afro Blue"... I don't have a problem with "My Favorite Things". (Maybe because... I have never seen The Sound Of Music. LOL)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 15 2006 at 18:47
Not a problem, Adam.  The latter two links have some MP3s available for download, so check them out when you can.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 15 2006 at 18:44
Thanks James I will have a look at those links soon and hopeful be able to have a few samples again of their music.


Also I have been meaning to ask you something Joren. I know the band Smegma are hopefully being added to the database which I am very happy about, I love their album "Glamour Girl 1941". I got sent this album just a little while back "Smegma - Schrammel Oi!" and I was wondering whether this is the same band or not as it is an abrupt changing in styles if it is?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 15 2006 at 18:38
I believe it is, I shall play it later, as I've put it to one side for future play (just haven't gotten around to doing so), along with a John Coltrane album.

Yes, the UK Polar Bear.  The leader of this band is also in a punk type band... let me look them up!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/jazz/reviews/polarbear_held.shtml

http://www.onefinalnote.com/features/2004/polar-bear/
http://www.babellabel.co.uk/The%20Babel%20Label-2552.htm
- Held on the Tips of Fingers
http://www.babellabel.co.uk/The%20Babel%20Label-2444.htm
- Dim Lit

Apparently they're what is known as post-jazz.

Even if they're not suitable for the archives, I still think you guys will be interested in them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 15 2006 at 18:31
I am assuming we are talking about Polar Bear from UK? I'm pretty sure there are two bands by the same name, though I have not heard any material by the other one (I cannot remember where they are from maybe USA).

I don't own any Polar Bear unforunately but I been able the listen to there latest album "Held on the Tips of Fingers" which came out over the last few years. From what I can remember it sounded quite good, I'm not sure about the comparision to Sotos. As I have not listened to Polar Bear enough to form a clear idea about their overall sound. Is this the CD your brother has?
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