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Ambient Hurricanes
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Posted: August 03 2013 at 20:18 |
progbethyname wrote:
zeqexes wrote:
To be 100% honest, I don't expect this album to be that good. I don't really have any reason to believe it is, apart from the fact that MM's drumming will be better than on ADTOE. According to early reviews that have surfaced since the listening party of the album, the band hasn't tried anything new with this album, and has a more commercial edge to it. I don't mind it being quite commercial; the band has proved that they can pull 'commercial' off well (Take the Time, Lie, Caught in a Web), but the commercial style that they've employed since they joined Roadrunner has failed to interest me that much. OTBOA was a good song though.I just have a feeling that this will be 'just another album', nothing special. If this album is nothing special, I think that a lot of DT fans will start 'losing hope' for the band. Hopefully I'm proven wrong though. The single on Monday will perhaps indicate whether I will be proven wrong or not. |
I really do understand why you feel this way and I'm kind of thinking the same thing where by the new album won't be dramatically different from previous works, although I still that the upcoming album will be a quality listen just nothing really different. What can I say? I mean DT have provided so many bench marks in prog metal and added an extream level of diversity and technical playing to the genre itself over the last 15 years specifically.
We can't be overly spoiled with DT at this time in their career. They have touched upon so much where 'Difference' in prog metal from what they have already achieved, is gonna be difficult.
I will still buy their next album. I know the level of musicianship will be top notch and I can't wait to hear Mangini at his best with the band!
In the end with DT we will be treated to quality, not difference. ;) |
I expect it to be good. I have no expectations with regard to difference/innovativeness. I hope it's as good as ADTOE, but whatever happens, it's a DT album, I'm not complaining. At least I think I can be pretty sure they won't return to their Systematic Chaos/BC&SL sound.
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progbethyname
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Posted: August 03 2013 at 18:47 |
zeqexes wrote:
To be 100% honest, I don't expect this album to be that good. I don't really have any reason to believe it is, apart from the fact that MM's drumming will be better than on ADTOE. According to early reviews that have surfaced since the listening party of the album, the band hasn't tried anything new with this album, and has a more commercial edge to it. I don't mind it being quite commercial; the band has proved that they can pull 'commercial' off well (Take the Time, Lie, Caught in a Web), but the commercial style that they've employed since they joined Roadrunner has failed to interest me that much. OTBOA was a good song though.I just have a feeling that this will be 'just another album', nothing special. If this album is nothing special, I think that a lot of DT fans will start 'losing hope' for the band. Hopefully I'm proven wrong though. The single on Monday will perhaps indicate whether I will be proven wrong or not. |
I really do understand why you feel this way and I'm kind of thinking the same thing where by the new album won't be dramatically different from previous works, although I still that the upcoming album will be a quality listen just nothing really different. What can I say? I mean DT have provided so many bench marks in prog metal and added an extream level of diversity and technical playing to the genre itself over the last 15 years specifically.
We can't be overly spoiled with DT at this time in their career. They have touched upon so much where 'Difference' in prog metal from what they have already achieved, is gonna be difficult.
I will still buy their next album. I know the level of musicianship will be top notch and I can't wait to hear Mangini at his best with the band!
In the end with DT we will be treated to quality, not difference. ;)
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johnobvious
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Posted: August 03 2013 at 18:39 |
Finally broke down and bought BC&SL for 9 bucks at lasers edge. They are having a huge sale in August.
I have most of the DT studio catalog but was missing this one. No Tot or FII either. And if someone would take Octavarium off my hands, it would no longer besmirch my collection. But I do consider myself a fan.
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Posted: August 03 2013 at 18:33 |
progbethyname wrote:
Catcher10 wrote:
zumacraig wrote:
Catcher10 wrote:
I like BC&SL and pretty much all the DT covers.....but yes except ADTOE. Although the inner gatefold on vinyl is pretty cool......matter of fact, all their vinyl cover art is much better than the jewel case versions....IMO Especially this one.......Fantastic!!! Again, IMHO....... |
TRUE! Those look great! Are the dynamics better on the vinyl? |
Ha! That's a can of worms I will not open .......I have my personal opinions. Anyhow BC&SL is a bit loud, pushed some...I have to say other than Nightmare, the rest of the album is really nice, especially The Count. As far as SDOIT, its fantastic!! They did an excellent job on this one |
Absolutely beautiful Catcher! You've caught well! :) |
Thank you.....I do enjoy my vinyl
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zeqexes
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Posted: August 03 2013 at 18:27 |
To be 100% honest, I don't expect this album to be that good. I don't really have any reason to believe it is, apart from the fact that MM's drumming will be better than on ADTOE. According to early reviews that have surfaced since the listening party of the album, the band hasn't tried anything new with this album, and has a more commercial edge to it. I don't mind it being quite commercial; the band has proved that they can pull 'commercial' off well (Take the Time, Lie, Caught in a Web), but the commercial style that they've employed since they joined Roadrunner has failed to interest me that much. OTBOA was a good song though. I just have a feeling that this will be 'just another album', nothing special. If this album is nothing special, I think that a lot of DT fans will start 'losing hope' for the band. Hopefully I'm proven wrong though. The single on Monday will perhaps indicate whether I will be proven wrong or not.
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progbethyname
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Posted: August 03 2013 at 13:56 |
lazland wrote:
To be fair to them, they have definitely introduced a lot of younger fans to the prog genre as a whole, and that can only be praised.I've started to listen to them a little bit more recently, and I am definitely enjoying a lot more than when I stopped a few years ago.
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Timeless music they create. You can always revisit and be impressed. I put on their first album WDADU the other day and I was blown away by Kevin' Moore's creatively on the keys/synths. Brilliant stuff. :)
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progbethyname
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Posted: August 03 2013 at 13:55 |
Catcher10 wrote:
zumacraig wrote:
Catcher10 wrote:
I like BC&SL and pretty much all the DT covers.....but yes except ADTOE. Although the inner gatefold on vinyl is pretty cool......matter of fact, all their vinyl cover art is much better than the jewel case versions....IMO Especially this one.......Fantastic!!! Again, IMHO....... |
TRUE! Those look great! Are the dynamics better on the vinyl? |
Ha! That's a can of worms I will not open .......I have my personal opinions. Anyhow BC&SL is a bit loud, pushed some...I have to say other than Nightmare, the rest of the album is really nice, especially The Count. As far as SDOIT, its fantastic!! They did an excellent job on this one |
Absolutely beautiful Catcher! You've caught well! :)
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progbethyname
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Posted: August 03 2013 at 13:52 |
jampa17 wrote:
Guys. The next monday they will share the new single for the album. Here is some of the new art. http://instagram.com/dreamtheater2013#
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Yup. Roadrunner is doing the same. :) looking forward to it. :)
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progbethyname
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Posted: August 03 2013 at 13:51 |
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progbethyname
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Posted: August 03 2013 at 13:49 |
I don't see Dream Theater making a poor quality album, but I don't see have they can achieve any more difference or innovation considering what they have done already. How many bars can you possibly set in a specific genre of music??
I see the album sounding like a cross between Falling Into Infinity and A Dramatic Turn of Events.
I really don't know how much more innovation they can cover? Really don't.
The album will sound very much in vein of what they have already done, but it will sound good! They make quality music. Amazing what they accomplish in 2 years, but I'd even wait 5 years for anything they want to put out. They are so respected by me. Love their music. Best prog metal band in the world I think. :)
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CKnoxW
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Posted: August 03 2013 at 12:17 |
Dream Theater (John Petrucci at least) sound like they really believe this new album will be their strongest yet. I certainly hope so. They said that about ADTOE, which had some great songs but was far from their strongest (That's Scenes From a Memory in my, and many others, opinion). But hey, we get a new 20 minute long song
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Posted: August 02 2013 at 20:11 |
Looking forward to the new single, even though I haven't really been too into DT lately. I can't wait to hear what MM brings to the table now that he's more involved with the songwriting process.
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zeqexes
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Posted: August 02 2013 at 18:35 |
jampa17 wrote:
Guys. The next monday they will share the new single for the album. Here is some of the new art.
http://instagram.com/dreamtheater2013#
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Woohoo!
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CKnoxW
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Posted: August 02 2013 at 17:14 |
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jampa17
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Posted: August 02 2013 at 16:43 |
Guys. The next monday they will share the new single for the album. Here is some of the new art.
http://instagram.com/dreamtheater2013#
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Catcher10
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Posted: July 27 2013 at 18:32 |
Earendil wrote:
Six Degrees looks great on vinyl. I'd love to grab a copy of it, but the cheapest I can find online is $40 |
Yea I saw that...it took off after the pre-sale period. SoundStage Direct has it for $33.00 free shipping...You just made $7.00 profit!!
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Earendil
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Posted: July 27 2013 at 17:14 |
Six Degrees looks great on vinyl. I'd love to grab a copy of it, but the cheapest I can find online is $40
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Sequined_Tears
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Posted: July 27 2013 at 16:43 |
I appreciate Dream Theater. I think Myung, Petrucci, Rudess and Portnoy are all incredible musicians. LaBrie has a place in my collection, but I have to be in the mood to throw back to my days of big hair-band metal.
Because I prefer instrumental music, I tend to gravitate to Liquid Tension.
DT does have a place in my heart. With that said, when I die, I want The Spirit Carries On played at my funeral.
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The chimes danced out on golden threads
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Sequined Tears began to fall...
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Metalmarsh89
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Posted: July 27 2013 at 10:57 |
Catcher10 wrote:
zumacraig wrote:
TRUE! Those look great! Are the dynamics better on the vinyl? |
Ha! That's a can of worms I will not open .......I have my personal opinions. Anyhow BC&SL is a bit loud, pushed some...I have to say other than Nightmare, the rest of the album is really nice, especially The Count. As far as SDOIT, its fantastic!! They did an excellent job on this one |
The Count of Tuscany has one of the best song openers I've ever heard. Now I want to listen to it on vinyl.
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Catcher10
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Posted: July 26 2013 at 22:26 |
zumacraig wrote:
Catcher10 wrote:
I like BC&SL and pretty much all the DT covers.....but yes except ADTOE. Although the inner gatefold on vinyl is pretty cool......matter of fact, all their vinyl cover art is much better than the jewel case versions....IMO Especially this one.......Fantastic!!! Again, IMHO....... |
TRUE! Those look great! Are the dynamics better on the vinyl? |
Ha! That's a can of worms I will not open .......I have my personal opinions. Anyhow BC&SL is a bit loud, pushed some...I have to say other than Nightmare, the rest of the album is really nice, especially The Count. As far as SDOIT, its fantastic!! They did an excellent job on this one
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