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npjnpj 
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 Posted: June 30 2009 at 04:33 |
I think that there are very few bands that cannot be gotten into over time, given enough effort through perseverance, shedding of preconceptions, and probable future changes in taste and appreciation.
In the past I've learnt that artists that seem completely inaccessible for a long period of time can become perhaps not favorites but at least quite well liked.
I could name a few bands that I haven't been able to get into yet, but I could never say with certainty that this won't be the case some time in the future.
In some cases this process can take years, on and off.
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progkidjoel
Prog Reviewer
Joined: March 02 2009
Location: Australia
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 03:47 |
 The Quiet One wrote:
progkidjoel wrote:
The Quiet One wrote:
progkidjoel wrote:
The Flower Kings
RUSH
Dream Theater |
What albums have you heard from each band? |
Dream Theater - Falling Into Infinity, Images & Words, Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence, Systematic Chaos, Octavarium
RUSH - 2112, Signals, Test For Echo
The Flower Kings - Stardust We Are
Not that I didn't think they were good, I just couldn't really get into them... |
Do you like heavy stuff? If not, I really can't see you liking either DT or Rush. But if you do, from what I read, Signals and Test for Echo have nothing do with technical stuff. And 2112 only the epic is sort-of technical, but not in the metal sense.I always related Images & Words synth/keyboard work with Marillion, I know it's odd, but that's how that album hooked me at the begining. Now I love because I truly find it great. Though my favorite is Falling Into Infinity. I haven't heard Stardust We Are, but I know that in those days they were more Retro, and not a big fan of Retropolis and Back in the World of Adeventures. If you were to check something more from them, Space Revolver might click on you, or maybe Sum of no Evil, despite not being a fan of the later. If you like pretty complex stuff with jazzy leanings, then the double-monster album Unfold the Future is a must. |
I like some heavy stuff (Namely Opeth and Porcupine Tree), but just not the power-metally feel DT give me... Some tracks by Dream Theater are great IMO, a few being Wait For Sleep, Space-Dye Vest and Hell's Kitchen. RUSH just bore me a little...
You're right about the Flower Kings album - Sort of... Not decidedly classic rock and not decidedly prog-rock.
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DAVE M
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 02:09 |
Captain Beefheart and his magic band, ever since his 'effort' on the great Zappa album Hot Rats.
Also much of Tangerine Dream was wasted on me - went to see them live, was like watching 3 guys in an IT department!
Dave M
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Jake Kobrin
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Posted: June 29 2009 at 01:50 |
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I forgot Coheed and Cambria!!!! God damn that singer!!! The music isn't bad, actually I greatly respect all of the aforementioned bands, I just dislike the singers of those four bands. Well no, actually, I find Marrillion to be cheesy and immature... Woah, I just opened up a can of something didn't I?
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Sangria
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Joined: June 11 2009
Location: California
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Posted: June 28 2009 at 16:11 |
BaldFriede wrote:
Sangria wrote:
The Quiet One wrote:
Sangria wrote:
Rushman wrote:
Zappa...
...can never get past the lyrics, which seem silly and juvenile to me. That said, I've hardly heard all of his releases, only maybe 15 - 20%. |
I agree, They are full of talented musicians that sing about stupid stuff that we laughed at when we were 7 years old. I could never understand the huge fanbase that Zappa generates.
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Maybe the huge fanbase that he has generated is because he really was a genius, musically speaking. Come on people what albums have you listened by him to "testify" that? I mean, okay, if you heard a good bunch then fine, but if you haven't heard any of his classics it's pretty much absurd to say such things.
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I have heard a great deal of Zappa, and everything I have heard had lyrics "I just can't get into". I agree, and stated, that they have great musicians, but please, before saying my opinion is absurd, allow me to listen to some of your suggestions that may sway my opinion of Zappa the other way. I'm always open. |
Try "The Yellow Shark".
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I tried again, I just can't listen to Zappa, Maybe it's a pre-conceived notion that I won't like it, but I just can't.
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Jake Kobrin
Prog Reviewer
Joined: September 20 2008
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Posted: June 28 2009 at 15:59 |
lucas wrote:
Jake Kobrin wrote:
I already talked about my affliction with Rush... 
I already talked about my affliction with Marillion...
I find Tangerine Dream to be incredibly boring
I already talked about my affliction with Dream Theater...
I generally dislike high-pitched vocals (meaning you don't like Yes) |
What are you doing on a prog-rock forum ? Sure there are some metal bands that have some connection with prog but I am pretty sure you will find more to enjoy on a metal forum than on a prog-rock one...However I tend to think that prog is very present these days in metal...
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Where did that come from??? I absolutely LOVE Yes! And like a said with those bands, I just think that they're overrated. I listen to tons of ambient, but Tangerine Dream has been outdone on so many levels that it's not even funny.
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The Quiet One
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Joined: January 16 2008
Location: Argentina
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Posted: June 28 2009 at 10:44 |
progkidjoel wrote:
The Quiet One wrote:
progkidjoel wrote:
The Flower Kings
RUSH
Dream Theater |
What albums have you heard from each band? |
Dream Theater - Falling Into Infinity, Images & Words, Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence, Systematic Chaos, Octavarium
RUSH - 2112, Signals, Test For Echo
The Flower Kings - Stardust We Are
Not that I didn't think they were good, I just couldn't really get into them... |
Do you like heavy stuff? If not, I really can't see you liking either DT or Rush. But if you do, from what I read, Signals and Test for Echo have nothing do with technical stuff. And 2112 only the epic is sort-of technical, but not in the metal sense. I always related Images & Words synth/keyboard work with Marillion, I know it's odd, but that's how that album hooked me at the begining. Now I love because I truly find it great. Though my favorite is Falling Into Infinity. I haven't heard Stardust We Are, but I know that in those days they were more Retro, and not a big fan of Retropolis and Back in the World of Adeventures. If you were to check something more from them, Space Revolver might click on you, or maybe Sum of no Evil, despite not being a fan of the later. If you like pretty complex stuff with jazzy leanings, then the double-monster album Unfold the Future is a must.
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J_Estonio
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Joined: January 13 2009
Location: Philippines
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Posted: June 28 2009 at 10:35 |
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Genesis, and any band that sounds like Genesis specially the vocals and melody. I've been listening to prog music for almost 2 years but still I can't get their music grained in my ears.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: June 28 2009 at 04:35 |
Great idea the "edit" function. 
I said "Great idea the "edit" function "
Edited by Snow Dog - June 28 2009 at 04:37
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progkidjoel
Prog Reviewer
Joined: March 02 2009
Location: Australia
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Posted: June 28 2009 at 04:30 |
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& Systematic Chaos, Falling Into Infinity - Dream Theater
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progkidjoel
Prog Reviewer
Joined: March 02 2009
Location: Australia
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Posted: June 28 2009 at 04:29 |
The Quiet One wrote:
progkidjoel wrote:
The Flower Kings
RUSH
Dream Theater |
What albums have you heard from each band? |
RUSH - 2112, Hold Your Fire
Dream Theater - Images & Words, Systematic Chaos, SDOIT, Octavarium
The Flower Kings - Stardust We Are
My main problem with RUSH and DT is the fact that their music revolves around technicality... Not a bad thing, but just not what I'm into in prog right now.
The Flower kings - Just couldn't see what was so special. Might not be a good album to judge from, but thats my opinion built on that album.
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progkidjoel
Prog Reviewer
Joined: March 02 2009
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Posted: June 28 2009 at 04:24 |
The Quiet One wrote:
progkidjoel wrote:
The Flower Kings
RUSH
Dream Theater |
What albums have you heard from each band? |
Dream Theater - Falling Into Infinity, Images & Words, Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence, Systematic Chaos, Octavarium
RUSH - 2112, Signals, Test For Echo
The Flower Kings - Stardust We Are
Not that I didn't think they were good, I just couldn't really get into them...
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progrules
Prog Reviewer
Joined: September 14 2007
Location: Netherlands
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Posted: June 28 2009 at 03:21 |
12212112 wrote:
When I first listened to magma, I thought it was weird too
(that was a long time ago)
now it is one of my favourite bands  .
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I haven't made that step yet. And I don't think I ever will ....
Maybe I'm not open minded enough but right now I'm checking out their stream songs. Not gonna happen !
Same thing with Sigur Ros. I really gave it a chance but it's a million mlies away from my taste.
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A day without prog is a wasted day
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progrules
Prog Reviewer
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Location: Netherlands
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Posted: June 28 2009 at 03:09 |
harmonium.ro wrote:
It seems like these kind f threads are good for something after all. Check out Ivan's Magma reviews on the front page!  |
I noticed it too. I think Ivan is just trying to shock the community here. I can't believe it. 
I challenge you to react on this, Ivan !!!
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A day without prog is a wasted day
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Logan
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Posted: June 27 2009 at 22:58 |
^ Hopefully there will be some clarification, as I don't see how it follows either.
harmonium.ro wrote:
It seems like these kind f threads are good for
something after all. Check out Ivan's Magma reviews on the front page!
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I don't often read reviews, but those are very good and insightful reviews, Ivan. Seeing them is a delightful surprise.
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: June 27 2009 at 21:00 |
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I don't see how that follows from hating generic prog metal and Rush...
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: June 27 2009 at 20:07 |
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12212112
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Posted: June 27 2009 at 19:21 |
When I first listened to magma, I thought it was weird too (that was a long time ago) now it is one of my favourite bands . I can`t get into CAN yet But I`ll see, maybe happens the same thing as happened when I listened to Magma ... who knows?
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cha chan, cha cha chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa cha
cha cha cha
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The Quiet One
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Joined: January 16 2008
Location: Argentina
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Posted: June 27 2009 at 19:21 |
progkidjoel wrote:
The Flower Kings
RUSH
Dream Theater |
What albums have you heard from each band?
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progkidjoel
Prog Reviewer
Joined: March 02 2009
Location: Australia
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Posted: June 27 2009 at 19:16 |
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The Mars Volta
The Flower Kings
RUSH
Dream Theater
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