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Guldbamsen
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Posted: May 14 2016 at 14:29 |
My mom doesn't.
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“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
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Smurph
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Posted: May 14 2016 at 14:28 |
Guldbamsen wrote:
MDK, like most other Magma material, is far better in a live setting. |
I think almost everyone agrees with that
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Smurph
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Posted: May 14 2016 at 14:27 |
Isaac Ness wrote:
i hate the fact that pink floyd it's qualified as prog, and whenever somebody mentions prog rock, PF it's the first thing that the average non-prog listener thinks of. |
Seconded.
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: May 14 2016 at 14:21 |
MDK, like most other Magma material, is far better in a live setting.
Still haven't checked out O.Rang but something tells me that I'm going to.
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- Douglas Adams
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zravkapt
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Posted: May 14 2016 at 14:06 |
Guldbamsen wrote:
I know of at least one more PAer who feels the same about The Yes Album (Darryl aka Zravkapt).
A few more: I dislike Annie Haslam's vocals with a vengeance. Very nice lady though. Floyd's More is a particular fave of mine although it isn't their best. Ummagumma is a masterpiece - studio album included.
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The Yes Album has balls!
I agree with the three above (and I also agree that prog causes violence in nursing homes). Here's some of my own: I like Magma but can't stand the studio version of MDK I think Wakeman's best album is No Earthly Connection (and that it's better than most 70's Yes albums) 1984 is the best thing Anthony Phillips did (with or without Genesis) "Taurus II" is one of Oldfield's best side-longs. Heatwave is the best Univers Zero album I like the Talk Talk offshoot .O.Rang more than Talk Talk themselves
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Magma America Great Make Again
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: May 14 2016 at 13:31 |
I know of at least one more PAer who feels the same about The Yes Album (Darryl aka Zravkapt).
A few more: Klaus Schulze's best album is Blackdance. I dislike Annie Haslam's vocals with a vengeance. Very nice lady though. Floyd's More is a particular fave of mine although it isn't their best. Ummagumma is a masterpiece - studio album included. Iskander is Supersister's best album. I prefer Michael Giles over Bill Bruford. I prefer Phil Collins over Chester Thompson (on drums). Vangelis finest hour isn't the Blade Runner soundtrack or Heaven & Hell but Dragon.
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“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
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siLLy puPPy
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Posted: May 14 2016 at 13:28 |
It is of my unusual opinion that prog causes violence in nursing homes and that effects the earth's rotation in unforeseen ways
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Magnum Vaeltaja
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Posted: May 14 2016 at 13:18 |
DDPascalDD wrote:
Guldbamsen wrote:
Yes never bettered The Yes Album.
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Nobody will ever have a more "unusual prog opinion". |
Oddly enough, I'll have to second Guldbamsen on this one. I feel that everything Yes did until Relayer was exceptional, but The Yes Album is simply the one that I enjoy the most reliably and consistently.
Another few of mine: - I prefer the album In The Wake of Poseidon to In The Court of The Crimson King
- Atom Heart Mother is the single best thing Pink Floyd produced
- I adore just about every jazz fusion band from the 70's Quebec scene except for Sloche. I never found them to be any more than decent.
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when i was a kid a doller was worth ten dollers - now a doller couldnt even buy you fifty cents
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DDPascalDD
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Posted: May 14 2016 at 12:46 |
Guldbamsen wrote:
Yes never bettered The Yes Album.
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Nobody will ever have a more "unusual prog opinion".
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Mascodagama
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Posted: May 14 2016 at 11:18 |
I think all of Gentle Giant's first eight albums are between good and great, except Three Friends. Which is dull as hell. I love Yes (up to 1974) but can't stand Jon's lyrics (at any point). Similarly I would like all King Crimson albums from ITCOCK to Red better if they were instrumental. The lyrics (with one or two honourable exceptions) are embarrassing and I find both Greg Lake and John Wetton overdo the vocal histrionics. I actually prefer Boz. I have never managed to listen to a Jethro Tull album all the way through. I liked Rush more when they were a hard rock band with ambitions than when they went full on prog. Caress of Steel rocks! Likewise, the more progressive Mastodon got, the less interested I was. Love Beach is a better album than Works Vol. 1. At least it ends sooner 
Edited by Mascodagama - May 14 2016 at 11:30
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dr wu23
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Posted: May 14 2016 at 11:15 |
Isaac Ness wrote:
i hate the fact that pink floyd it's qualified as prog, and whenever somebody mentions prog rock, PF it's the first thing that the average non-prog listener thinks of. |
You aren't the only one who feels that way about Floyd. btw....welcome to Prog Rock Archives..... 
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One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin
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Isaac Ness
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Posted: May 14 2016 at 11:09 |
i hate the fact that pink floyd it's qualified as prog, and whenever somebody mentions prog rock, PF it's the first thing that the average non-prog listener thinks of.
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: May 14 2016 at 10:58 |
Most folks herald Vol 3 as The Softs finest achievement - I rather prefer Vol 2. I think Rush's best album is Signals. I find Mahavishnu Orchestra exeedingly dull bar Apocalypse. Yes never bettered The Yes Album. Lodger is one of my absolute fave Bowie albums. The vast majority of contemporary prog fans seem to love Mariuz Duda's vocals, I don't. The best Burnin' Red Ivanhoe album is also currently the one with the poorest rating: 6 Elefantskovcikadeviser. Best song on ITCHYCOCK is 'I Talk To The Wind'. The 80s were wonderful. Of the first four Fish lead Marillion albums 'Misplaced Childhood' is my least fave. Stomu Yamashta's finest hour wasn't with Winwood and company but rather his brilliant debut - an adventure of rhythm. Stratosfear is my least played TD album from the 70s.
Edited by Guldbamsen - May 14 2016 at 11:03
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dr wu23
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Posted: May 14 2016 at 10:37 |
^^ I think this thread is going to turn into what bands are or aren't prog......  Regarding Santana,,,,they are listed here as jazz fusion...not prog per se. But I have similar opinions, no that unusual, about the prog related and crossover prog categories....either a band is prog rock or it isn't so why even have these categories and list bands like The Who and Zep who aren't really prog rock at all.
Edited by dr wu23 - May 14 2016 at 10:38
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One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin
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octopus-4
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Posted: May 14 2016 at 10:35 |
ALotOfBottle wrote:
I actually quite like From Genesis To Revelation as a folk rock album.
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It's one of the only two Genesis albums that I like...
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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Manuel
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Posted: May 14 2016 at 10:27 |
Might be weird, but I don't think Santana should be considered prog. They have their unique sound, no question about it, but it's more classic rock with a latin beat than prog-rock. Also, a lot of the metal bands are somehow considered prog, which is a long stretch by far, since they show very little innovation or uniqueness.
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ALotOfBottle
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Posted: May 14 2016 at 10:26 |
DDPascalDD wrote:
I think Rush is pretty boring, except Hemispheres (song) and La Villa Strangiato. I know there are quite some Rush fans here, but I just find it quite boring, more of a classic rock band who made longer songs as well. |
Exactly the same way with me.
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DDPascalDD
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Posted: May 14 2016 at 10:20 |
I think Rush is pretty boring, except Hemispheres (song) and La Villa Strangiato. I know there are quite some Rush fans here, but I just find it quite boring, more of a classic rock band who made longer songs as well.
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ALotOfBottle
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Posted: May 14 2016 at 10:13 |
I actually quite like From Genesis To Revelation as a folk rock album.
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Magnum Vaeltaja
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Posted: May 14 2016 at 10:10 |
HemispheresOfXanadu wrote:
Not a strange opinion, I think, but I think Progarchives should take a page out of Metal Music Archives book and allow bands to have albums from multiple genres. Like Opeth's Heritage should be heavy prog and maybe prog folk, not tech/extreme prog metal. Also adding a 'not prog' genre would be nice for, say, early fusion bands to exclude that album from the top 100. (*Cough* Kind of Blue *Cough*) |
I agree with you on the genre classification. I think it would make a lot of sense to be more selective over how an artist's discography is categorized. It doesn't really make sense to call every album by an artist who develops and redefines their sound a lot over the span of their career just one genre. Surely no one would consider "Nursery Cryme" and "Invisible Touch" to both be "symphonic prog". Plus it could help alleviate a bit of the angst that fans feel when bands they like are labeled as "prog-related", even if some of their albums could be better classified under actual prog sub-genres.
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