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And the first one is screwing around at the expense of sounding good.
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The second album is certainly consistent, but at the expense of FUN.  Sure, the first album has duds, but that's because it's just two guys screwing around and having fun, and making some very interesting music in the process.  The second album is just a second-rate Henry Cow.  

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The first album also has a bunch of duds and doesn't feel like a very cohesive album.  The second album is very consistent and at least feels like every song belongs on the same album as the others. Sure, it feels like a lesser Western Culture, but it's still pretty awesome.


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Nah.  The first album had character, a unique feel, a sort of charming naivete to it that I really like.  The second album was just a clusterf**k of RIO musicians stomping on Hollander and Kenis.  It's a decent album, but not nearly as good as the first.  

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Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:

Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Aksak Maboul is a really great band.  I am thoroughly enjoying both their albums - currently listening to their debut, Onze Danses Pour Combattre La Migraine, and it's a varied and interesting work, borrows from a lot of different styles.


Onze Danses is pretty much the greatest thing ever. 


Except the second album is significantly better.
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Originally posted by song_of_copper song_of_copper wrote:

Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Les Morts Vont Vite will suit you very nicely.  Wink

Well, Pat, if you like it... what's the statistical likelihood that I'll like it as well...? Ermm

Almost certainly, going by recent experience! LOL


I've only listened to it a couple of times, but it is very dark.
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Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Les Morts Vont Vite will suit you very nicely.  Wink

Well, Pat, if you like it... what's the statistical likelihood that I'll like it as well...? Ermm

Almost certainly, going by recent experience! LOL
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Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:

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Present features Daniel Denis, who was drummer of UZ, so they sound similar... but UZ have more brass, whilst Present are more guitar orientated.  Infact, they're more electrified.



I'm reminded of that "it's just a bunch of wining trumpets" guy, because UZ doesn't actually feature any brass at all.  Not until Heatwave anyways.  n00b. 


You spotted my deliberate mistake. Wink
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Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Aksak Maboul is a really great band.  I am thoroughly enjoying both their albums - currently listening to their debut, Onze Danses Pour Combattre La Migraine, and it's a varied and interesting work, borrows from a lot of different styles.


Onze Danses is pretty much the greatest thing ever. 

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Originally posted by James James wrote:

Present features Daniel Denis, who was drummer of UZ, so they sound similar... but UZ have more brass, whilst Present are more guitar orientated.  Infact, they're more electrified.



I'm reminded of that "it's just a bunch of wining trumpets" guy, because UZ doesn't actually feature any brass at all.  Not until Heatwave anyways.  n00b. 

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Aksak Maboul is a really great band.  I am thoroughly enjoying both their albums - currently listening to their debut, Onze Danses Pour Combattre La Migraine, and it's a varied and interesting work, borrows from a lot of different styles.
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Originally posted by song_of_copper song_of_copper wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

The first description also sounds like Shub-Niggurath who sound nothing like Guapo. Wink

Listen the guitar on Shub-Niggurath albums, it's even more agony (but good agony) than Trigaux. Big%20smile

I listened to Shub-Niggurath's third album earlier and oh my... it's quite a departure from Les Morts Vont Vite yet it's utterly brilliant as well!

It goes further way from chamber prog and sounds completely alien.  It sounds far less structured and melodic but I love the chaotic madness!

It's a push for me, as to whether it's darker than Les Morts Vont Vite or not... but oh my, is it a good album!

Just be careful though... don't expect a follow-on from Les Mort Vont Vite (or the self-titled debut), this is proper avant-prog.  This is noisey, harsh, unmelodic, clinical and clunky.  I love it!

Oh well, at least I tried!! Tongue  Music is 'as hard to describe as the taste of strawberries'. Wink

I haven't heard Shub-Niggurath yet... Cry  Soon, I hope!  They are starting to look essential...



Les Morts Vont Vite will suit you very nicely.  Wink
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Originally posted by James James wrote:

The first description also sounds like Shub-Niggurath who sound nothing like Guapo. Wink

Listen the guitar on Shub-Niggurath albums, it's even more agony (but good agony) than Trigaux. Big%20smile

I listened to Shub-Niggurath's third album earlier and oh my... it's quite a departure from Les Morts Vont Vite yet it's utterly brilliant as well!

It goes further way from chamber prog and sounds completely alien.  It sounds far less structured and melodic but I love the chaotic madness!

It's a push for me, as to whether it's darker than Les Morts Vont Vite or not... but oh my, is it a good album!

Just be careful though... don't expect a follow-on from Les Mort Vont Vite (or the self-titled debut), this is proper avant-prog.  This is noisey, harsh, unmelodic, clinical and clunky.  I love it!

Oh well, at least I tried!! Tongue  Music is 'as hard to describe as the taste of strawberries'. Wink

I haven't heard Shub-Niggurath yet... Cry  Soon, I hope!  They are starting to look essential...

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The first description also sounds like Shub-Niggurath who sound nothing like Guapo. Wink

Listen the guitar on Shub-Niggurath albums, it's even more agony (but good agony) than Trigaux. Big%20smile

I listened to Shub-Niggurath's third album earlier and oh my... it's quite a departure from Les Morts Vont Vite yet it's utterly brilliant as well!

It goes further way from chamber prog and sounds completely alien.  It sounds far less structured and melodic but I love the chaotic madness!

It's a push for me, as to whether it's darker than Les Morts Vont Vite or not... but oh my, is it a good album!

Just be careful though... don't expect a follow-on from Les Mort Vont Vite (or the self-titled debut), this is proper avant-prog.  This is noisey, harsh, unmelodic, clinical and clunky.  I love it!
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Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Ladies (well judging by this thread, only Melissa shows up here, so Lady) and Gentlemen, tell me about Guapo, and why you like it.
And preferably an overview of musical features/attributes sorta deal as well.

Also, tell me about Present, and why you not only like it, but why it seems like Hughesman will possibly enjoy it.

Hello Harry, one RIO Lady reporting for duty (although I believe there are others about... Cleo?)

Guapo: have a glance at the 'Guapo Appurrreciation Thread' for fulsome praise, descriptive flights of fancy, etc. Tongue  The short answer is: intense, sinister, intellectual, dark, if Lord Byron and Aleister Crowley had a RIO/avant band... Big%20smile  Has a really distinctive drum sound, kind of crisp, hissy and militaristic.  Bass guitar to the fore, cool keyboards also.  'Elixirs' is a bit of a departure from the previous two albums, with more varied instrumentation - sounds like the soundtrack to a creepy movie.  I've not heard the pre-'Five Suns' stuff.

Present: it sounds like a fantastic combination of man and machine!  (I came up with that on my walk to work this morning! LOL)  It's really quite repetitive (hence the machine part!), and you could call it dark, but it's also jaunty and mischievous (and thus nicely human-sounding, rather than utterly cold).  A less daunting spectacle than UZ, but no less satisfying.  Why would you possibly enjoy it?  Well, for starters, there's Roger Trigaux, whose guitar occasionally sounds like... a person suffering excruciating agony, but enjoying it. Wink

I hope that helps! Smile
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Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Well that actually helps a bit, thank youThumbs%20Up
Present more electrified hey? Sounds like it's already on the money for my taste if I dug UZ.
*cue other RIO heads for more info*


I haven't listened enough to form a great description, but if you like UZ that much the probability is very high that you will like Present.  Search for the CD that is a 2-for-1 of Triskaidekaphobie and Le Poison Qui Rend Fou, I was able to obtain that for fairly low cost.  I've only heard UZ's debut but at this moment I'd say I prefer Present to UZ.
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Well that actually helps a bit, thank youThumbs%20Up
Present more electrified hey? Sounds like it's already on the money for my taste if I dug UZ.
*cue other RIO heads for more info*
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Present features Daniel Denis, who was drummer of UZ, so they sound similar... but UZ have more brass, whilst Present are more guitar orientated.  Infact, they're more electrified.

Guapo are still too difficult to explain... their last three albums have been quite different.

Five Suns is from the Magma school of music.
Dark Suns is from the Magma, King Crimson and Doom school
Elixirs is erm... well I'm not sure
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Originally posted by James James wrote:

Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Ladies (well judging by this thread, only Melissa shows up here, so Lady) and Gentlemen, tell me about Guapo, and why you like it.
And preferably an overview of musical features/attributes sorta deal as well.

Also, tell me about Present, and why you not only like it, but why it seems like Hughesman will possibly enjoy it.


Guapo's impossible to describe. LOL

That's not the answer you wanted, was it?

Present are like Univers Zero... only different. LOL

Again, that doesn't help, does it?

I'm feeling a bit brain dead today, so I'll leave it to Patrick, Assaf, Blowie or Melissa to explain. Embarrassed


QFN=Quoted for n00bishness.

Seriously man, I asked for details, not how incredibly brief and undescriptive your reply could be.
Present like UZ.
That's a start I guess, given Heresie is a 5 star album in my books.
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Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Ladies (well judging by this thread, only Melissa shows up here, so Lady) and Gentlemen, tell me about Guapo, and why you like it.
And preferably an overview of musical features/attributes sorta deal as well.

Also, tell me about Present, and why you not only like it, but why it seems like Hughesman will possibly enjoy it.


Guapo's impossible to describe. LOL

That's not the answer you wanted, was it?

Present are like Univers Zero... only different. LOL

Again, that doesn't help, does it?

I'm feeling a bit brain dead today, so I'll leave it to Patrick, Assaf, Blowie or Melissa to explain. Embarrassed
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