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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2006 at 07:56
hello people
I'm listening to Proll 1 as I write this and it is indeed sounding good, but I'm still waiting to hear where it develops to... and now it starts... hmm, nice riffs...
I shall hear the others as well, as this sounds quite good. However, I am not sure this band fits the RIO/Avant label.
Unfortunately I don't have much time to add the DR. Nerve to Rating Freak and hence add it to the RIO/Avant Chart, but I will listen to it and given Cesar Inca's knowledge I presume he is right in his statements. I'll listen to it and vote when it is possible.
Hmm... this Proll 1 is good...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2006 at 06:23
Well actually, when I went to their site, that was the first track that played, as I presume it selects the tracks randomly.

So on that basis, maybe people just don't like that track!  It's beyond me why the wouldn't, but people are people and I'm not one of them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2006 at 03:43
Yes it does seem strange why the band would put the best song as the last track, it is just a gift for people with short attention spans to listen to the first few song then get bored and miss the good stuff.

Thanks to Cesar Inca's suggestion in the addition part of the forum, it made me remember a band I encounted about a year back but never followed on with my research, used to have an album on my computer which was quite interesting. The band is Doctor Nerve. This is what Cesar Inca had to say about them

Originally posted by Cesar Inca Cesar Inca wrote:

DOCTOR NERVE SHOULD BE HERE RIGHT NOW!!
 

This amazing American ensemble, that takes the standards of RIo to a higher level of complexity and bizarreness via the patent use of avant-garde disharmonies, aggressive guitar riffs and rhythmic vibes, wind instruments' polyphonies, a mixture of visceral construction and adventurous improvisation. They shouldn't have been left unnoticed here for so long, and they certainly don't deserve to be so overlooked... especially now that the doors are wide open for so many so called prog-related acts (let alone that mixed bag that now has come to be the art-rock category).

Alert to all avant-prog experts in ProgArchives!!

 

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If people are interested it is worth having a listen to some of their song on the Cuneiform website, where there are 4 songs for your pleasure:

www.cuneiformrecords.com/bandshtml/drnerve.html
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2006 at 02:38
Yes, I think it was Resistencia that was the one I felt was the weakest, it was very much generic rock, with prog bits in (an equivalent to Red, I'd say), but I did like it.  The ambient track didn't do much for me though, but I guess in the context of the album, it may work a lot better, than as a track on its own.  Proll 1 is definitely the best track and the ending is rather nice.

I also note that Proll 1 has the least listens, which is rather ironic, as it's the best song!  I guess peoples' tastes are different.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2006 at 02:32
First to answer your question James, no unforunately Diana is not on this album. Do you know which album this is off? From reading the linear notes, it is quite apparent all the tracks were hand chosen by David Tibet himself in hope to give the listener the greatest insight into the bands sound/ideas. So saddly enough I don't think a cover song would have been high on his list when he put the album together.

Chamberry, I have given this band a listen and for me it was a bit of a mixed reaction. I will not go into too much detail about the songs, but I will give you my first reacitons.

It was a bit of a shakey start with the first two tracks 'Torso' and 'Resistencia', they really did nothing for me. To me they sounded like straight forward generic post-rock/space rock with no high points to the songs. With the next song things started to get somewhat more interesting, though I find the song to be a little uneven. As James stated Proll 1 would definately be the highlight out of those songs and definately shows the most potential.

This seems to be a solid effort from a new band, and I can definately see there is a lot of potential for the band to go on and produce some interesting material. So I will be interest to see what the whole album has to offer. That 14 min epic sounds nice as I think some of the problem with these songs is they really need to expand their ideas to a fuller extent.    
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2006 at 01:59
Oh, lucky I didn't go into too much detail about the tracks then!

Lets just say they're quite varied, some are heavy, KCesque, some are more ambient and some are ambient and heavy.  Some are also more generic rock with prog ellements, but still good stuff.

I like the bass sound I must say.

Indeed, I do hope the CD isn't too hard to obtain, as this band have a lot of promise.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2006 at 01:54
Nice to hear good impresions on the band so soon! I don't believe it will be that hard to find IMO. I shall look for information about this as soon as possible. I also read in some article about the band that they have a 14 minute epic on the album. I haven't heard all of the songs on myspace since I'm waiting to be surprised when I'll buy the album. The same goes for The Mars Volta's new album too.

Spread the word! There's a new band on the block!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2006 at 00:43
I shall check them out, cheers!  If I like them, I'll add a song as my MySpace song that plays when people visit.  That'll scare them!

Proll 1 sounds great so far! Clap

Oh wow, Proll 1 really gets good at the end!

Torso is also a great tune.

Now a question... how easy will this album be to obtain, because I'm already seriously interested in buying it!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2006 at 23:59
Great news everyone!

An up and coming band from Puerto Rico will be finally releasing their debut album this year. I have some conection with the basist, Agustin Criollo. He's a very nice guy and has a very interesting taste in music. A fan of RIO, Canterbury, Krautrock, Fripp, Wyatt(Wink) and many other genres,bands and persons so you can imagine what their sounds is like.

If anyone want a listen or a little bit more info on the band then check out this websites
http://myspace.com/astridproll
http://www.astridproll.com/


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"A hallucinating journey of epic proportions through frenetic rythms and blissfull noise. For those who enjoy King Crimson, Porcupine Tree, Godspeed You! Black Emperor and Neu!..."

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2006 at 23:07
Does that compilation have Comus' Diana on it, Adam?

I'm not sure if you're familiar with the album First Utterance, by Comus, but if you are not, then you should get yourself a copy of it, as it's a masterpiece of prog folk.  I think you'll appreciate it.

Current 93 and Opeth are both influenced by Comus.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2006 at 23:01
Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:

That sounds really good Adam.
I unfortunately will have to take a time out from investigating and hunting for new music, so I'll collect yours and others recommendations and pick them up when I can resume my former musical activities.

I really must get to that shop you're going to as it seems to have so much good stuff.

I think I will enjoy my new temporary residence in terms of music acquiries.


I think I am coming to the same situation you are in (music wise) I have brought so much music now I have so enough listening material to keep me occupied for the next year or so but I keep finding more and more. I think it is going to be a while before I make any big purchase over the next little while, as I really need to save at the moment to try and give myself more of a chance to move countries, which is what I am aiming for at the moment.

I do find my store really good, for someone with no credit card it really makes things hard when you have obscure tastes, so that place is like a gold mine to me. In reply to one of your earlier questions. I am really enjoying the Current 93 album, event though it is only a compilation album it is give me a fuller understand of the direction he takes with his (David Tibet) work. Also there is a hell of a lot of music and ideas to digest in that album. I find the lyrics to be the main thing I am focusing on at the moment and they are not exactly straight forward so it is taking time to decifer the hidden meaning behind everything. This is also giving a great insight into the periods of there music I enjoy and will hopefully lead to further purchases.
    
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2006 at 20:56
Thanks everyone, I'll be sure to get Nova Express as soon as I get tired of their debut . . . or maybe not that long. Embarrassed

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2006 at 20:36
That sounds really good Adam.
I unfortunately will have to take a time out from investigating and hunting for new music, so I'll collect yours and others recommendations and pick them up when I can resume my former musical activities.
I really must get to that shop you're going to as it seems to have so much good stuff.
I think I will enjoy my new temporary residence in terms of music acquiries.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2006 at 19:28
Yes Chamberry, you will definately not be disappointed with there second offering. So there is nothing to be hesitant about. Also I am looking forward to listening to their third album which is hopefully coming out sometime soon.

Well I think it is well know that over this last little while I have been getting myself further accostomed in the Japanese underground scene.

Just lately I have been looking into some of the works of Otomo Yoshihide, amoung these being his solo work longside bands like: Ground Zero, Date Course Pentagon Royal Garden, Otomo Yoshihide's New Jazz Quintet. I am sure there are many more but these are the one I have found interesting so far.

The band I would like to talk about today is the band called "Date Course Pentagon Royal Garden". I have there debt album 'Report from Iron Mountain' which so far I am find to be a rather pleasing listening experience.



Catch 22 (10:00)
Play Mate at Hanoi (12:29)
S (10:51)
Circle/Line - Hard Core Peace (16:02)
Hey Joe (12:00)
Mirror Balls (8:16)

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Naruyoshi Kikuchi: VOX-Jagar, CD-J, keyboard
Otomo Yoshihide: guitar
Kohki Takai: guitar, filter
Yasuhiro Yoshigaki: drums
Nobuo Fujii: drums
Masaki Kurihara: bass
Kenta Tsugami: soprano sax
Yoshihiro Goseki: tenor sax
Masayasu Tzuboguchi: synthesizers, electric piano, clavinett
Gen Ohgimi: percussion
Masaki Yoshimi: tabla

I have found this an interesting and at times amusing project from what I guess you could call a Japanese 'supergroup'. The music is a blend of electronica, free-jazz and at times throw in a little bit of odd noise. Overall this is a very jazz orientated project with enough avant-garde aspects to keep things interesting. Unforunately at times the music can get a little cheesy, reminding me of some of Weather Reports output... not that there is anything wrong with Weather Report

From reading up on the band I have heard a lot of claims this album has a lot of ties with Bitches Brew; wearing their influences on their sleeves. So imagine elements of Bitches Brew mixed in with the Boredoms absurdities. Though at time this album can wonder, it is neverless an interesting experiment and has held my interest at least for the time being, so decent but nothing amazing.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2006 at 17:43
Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:

I have NoVa eXPReSS by NeBeLNeST and while not a spectacular album in my opinion, it is worthwhile getting it, especially if you like their first album like you said. I think you will be very satisfied with that one as well, if not more than the 1st. I did not hear the first s/t one, but I was told it was less improvisational-wise and more focused and sounded better. I am very curious to hear what direction their music will take in their coming album.
 
Oh, another very good band is discussed here againClap.
 
I like both albums, but I prefer Novaexpress - in their first there are too many "improvisational" parts, which are a bit too "noisy" for my taste.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2006 at 17:24
I have NoVa eXPReSS by NeBeLNeST and while not a spectacular album in my opinion, it is worthwhile getting it, especially if you like their first album like you said. I think you will be very satisfied with that one as well, if not more than the 1st. I did not hear the first s/t one, but I was told it was less improvisational-wise and more focused and sounded better. I am very curious to hear what direction their music will take in their coming album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2006 at 17:16
Platypus is a great album. You won't be dissapointed Avestin. The epic, Wu, took some time to actually listen to it. It bored me and I always drifted away, but now I listen to it more focused and It's really a great kind of improvisation.

 I heard Zaar one time since I got it this morning an I got a good impression on them. It shows that the band has some potential.

Another good band that's starting to grow on me alot is NeBelNest. Since I heard some comparisons with Guapo I went to check them out. Their debut is a very strong album. It has quite the feel of Guapo, but both of the bands don't sound alike and I find Guapo to be much more darker and hipnotic while NeBelNest to be more dinamic. Anyone else has an opinion on them? Should I go and get their second album ASAP?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2006 at 16:50
Originally posted by Black Velvet Black Velvet wrote:

oops I have been meaning put some stuff up in here for a while now, but it has been something that keeps slipping my mind.

James I think I am the opposite to you in regard to Sotos and Zaar. I really do see Zaar as quite a nice evolution form where Sotos disabandoned.

I will write up some more stuff when I get the time, unforunately I have to off now, otherwise I am going to be late. I will put up a little list and some explainations of some of the music I have been discovering of late. So hopefully I will get some time soon.

Also it is good to still see you on the forums Assaf
 
I'm with you on that one, although I think Sotos showed a massive improvement from their debut to Platypus, and I'm hoping that Zaar will follow up a strong debut with a 5* masterpiece.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2006 at 16:49
Well I've only heard the Zaar album once so far and heard Platypus twice, so there's still time for my opinion to change.  Sotos probably appeals to me more, because it's easier on the ears.  I am sure Zaar, will encapsulate me eventually.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2006 at 16:45
oops I have been meaning put some stuff up in here for a while now, but it has been something that keeps slipping my mind.

James I think I am the opposite to you in regard to Sotos and Zaar. I really do see Zaar as quite a nice evolution form where Sotos disabandoned.

I will write up some more stuff when I get the time, unforunately I have to off now, otherwise I am going to be late. I will put up a little list and some explainations of some of the music I have been discovering of late. So hopefully I will get some time soon.

Also it is good to still see you on the forums Assaf

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