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Points: 12625 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 31 2006 at 22:52
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I have no idea to tell you the truth.
I posted that request since Hugues asked me for this assistance.
I'll ask him about this album you mention.
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Assaf, in regard to Wapassou I have not been able to find any information... sorry. But I have noticed when looking around there is another album they release after this fifth album called Orchestra 2001 - Le lac d'argent which came out in 1986. I'm not sure whether people were awear of this?
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Oh, Hugh himself likes them, good stuff!  Thanks Adam.

I am heading off to bed now, after divulging in Univers Zero.  I think I'll need to listen to this album when I'm more awake to be honest.
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I'm quite sure this is their lastest studio offering. If you like the bands sound this would be a good way to start, considering their other two album are now OOP so your only chance to get your hands on them would be second hand. There are two reviews on the site for this album, I have not read through them but they might be of some help in the purchase. Overall from what I have heard of their material they are quite a nice band and defiantely talented musicans, so I doubt you will be getting any sloppy amature work.

And least of all you cannot go past this vote about the band

"Some of the most interesting music and one of the best live shows I've seen for years." - Hugh Hopper
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Yes you did, I've yet to listen to it, but I shall do.  Apparently that release is for 2006, so it looks like a new album.  The second disc is live.

Looks like it could be a good buy.
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Originally posted by Geck0 Geck0 wrote:

Just noticed Cuneiform have Hamster Theatre - The Public Execution of Mister Personality/Quasi Day Room.A 2-in-1 album.Is this worth getting?Cuneiform have a whole stack of albums I really want to get!  Harry Miller's Isipingo - Which Way Now is one such album!


Have you heard any Hamster Theatre? I cannot remember if I passed on the recording I have of them. I have an hour live radio session they did back a little while ago which is a good indication of their sound. But unforunately this is the only Hamster Theatre I have heard.
    
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Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

Originally posted by Black Velvet Black Velvet wrote:

Well I am thinking this is going to be one of my next purchases, even though it is so expensive. With all the extra material you get plus all their albums it definately seems worth it. I have only heard their self titled album so far, but from what other people have said it is very likely I will like their other material. I was having a look at some of the This Heat material available to order in; for a little bit more their is supposedly a 7 disc set. Does anybody know anything about this or is this just a mistake?    Yeah I saw it on ReR, but unforunately I don't have a credit card so it makes look for things on the internet a little harder, unless I can find something eBay for cheaper.       


Subscribers to the box set got a 3" cd single as a bonus item, so maybe that's where the reference to the 7 disc set came from.

There are also 2 versions of the set available; the debut album was issued as a stand alone release a couple of months ahead of the box, so ReR Uk are selling the box set minus the debut album at a slightly reduced price (40 pounds instead of 45). Presumably ReR USA are doing the same thing, so if you've got the first album that could be your best bet. You don't have to have a credit card - you can always post a cheque/money order, which takes a little longer but has always worked OK for me.

With regards to price, the box set is excellent value. Buying the CDs individually, assuming they were all available, would cost almost twice as much at HMV or Virgin (who typically charge 13 pounds plus ofr ReR CDs), and you wouldn't get the booklet or the box. I'm not so sure about US prices, but I'd imagine it's a similarly attractive deal.


The prices are similar, slightly more expensive from my store, but I'm sure postage to Australian is not going to be little bit more than most places. I think I am going to stick with the 6 disc box set for the time being. I only have their first album in mp3 formate so it is not a worry for me with getting doubles of CD. But thanks for the help. I did have a look on ebay last night though and it was silly some of the prices they were going for, so they were not cheap but in fact more expensive.


    
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Points: 12625 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 31 2006 at 08:48
You're all making me drooling wiht your mentions of albums you are going to buy Ouch
 
Anyway, here is a thread I posted about the recently added French RIO/Avant band Wapassou:
 
I think the good people participating in this thread probably have the answer we are looking for. I'll just paste here what I posted there:
 
Hello fellow PA members,
 
Sean Trane has added the French band Wapassou to the RIO/Avant prog category.
 
He has added their 4 albums but the fifth one called Genuine has not been added due to lack of information.
 
What we do have is the album cover art and the catalogue number - STERNE 26512.
 
I call upon anyone having this information to post it here so we can add this album to their discography.
 
Thank you,
 
Assaf
 
 
PS, for those of you who want to know what this is all about here you go:
 
 
Wapassou is one of those hard to classify prog group, not really on the rock side of prog, but it would be a shame not to include it, the same way Art Zoyd or Univers Zero are in the archives. Their music is a mix of classical with meditative (almost hippie) moments and spacey ethereal music. Their line-up is just about as unconventional as there is no drums and bass guitar, concentrating between violin, electric guitars and organs. Sounds intriguing? Well it is.

Their first album is still a rough draft of their music to come, but by 76, they were really settled down with their unique sounds somehow between Popol Vuh, Catharsis, Univers Zero and Opus Avantra. Messe En ré Mineur is a double album, and was quite an artistic success. Understandably so, Wapassou repeated the formula for their next two albums with the same kind of success, those three albums apparently forming a trilogy (which have been re-issued by Musea). They had quite a bit of gigs for a period of three years, which left them quite exhausted by the end of the decade.

The group went on to record one other album on a different label then folded as the decade unfolded into the next one.



bio written by Hugues Chantraine
 
 
 
 
WAPASSOU is one of the most original French Progressive rock bands ! Recorded in 1974, the eponymous album of keyboardist Freddy BRUA and friends shows a music in the same category as the first PINK FLOYD, AMON DÜÜL II, CZAR or ASH RA TEMPEL albums. We can find here some throbbing and varied melodies. The numerous flute, guitar, clarinet and sitar lines are an ideal counterpart to a true rock feeling. It also includes some guests among which Benoit MOERLEN at the percussions, also coming from Strasbourg. As a bonus, the Musea reissue includes two tracks originally issued as singles. On the following albums, WAPASSOU reaffirmed their originality: the formula is then based on keyboards, violin and guitar combinations and structures. BACH and WAGNER seem to be the obvious references here. "Salammbô" (1977) was inspired by the works of Gustave FLAUBERT. The enchanting ambiences develop along repetitive organ and violin sequences, which give this music a kind of dark solemnity and symphonicism. Not to be missed !
 
 
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Just noticed Cuneiform have Hamster Theatre - The Public Execution of Mister Personality/Quasi Day Room.

A 2-in-1 album.

Is this worth getting?

Cuneiform have a whole stack of albums I really want to get!  Harry Miller's Isipingo - Which Way Now is one such album!
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Originally posted by Black Velvet Black Velvet wrote:

Well I am thinking this is going to be one of my next purchases, even though it is so expensive. With all the extra material you get plus all their albums it definately seems worth it. I have only heard their self titled album so far, but from what other people have said it is very likely I will like their other material. I was having a look at some of the This Heat material available to order in; for a little bit more their is supposedly a 7 disc set. Does anybody know anything about this or is this just a mistake?   

Yeah I saw it on ReR, but unforunately I don't have a credit card so it makes look for things on the internet a little harder, unless I can find something eBay for cheaper.   
    
 
Subscribers to the box set got a 3" cd single as a bonus item, so maybe that's where the reference to the 7 disc set came from.
 
There are also 2 versions of the set available; the debut album was issued as a stand alone release a couple of months ahead of the box, so ReR Uk are selling the box set minus the debut album at a slightly reduced price (40 pounds instead of 45). Presumably ReR USA are doing the same thing, so if you've got the first album that could be your best bet. You don't have to have a credit card - you can always post a cheque/money order, which takes a little longer but has always worked OK for me.
 
With regards to price, the box set is excellent value. Buying the CDs individually, assuming they were all available, would cost almost twice as much at HMV or Virgin (who typically charge 13 pounds plus ofr ReR CDs), and you wouldn't get the booklet or the box. I'm not so sure about US prices, but I'd imagine it's a similarly attractive deal.
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Points: 12625 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2006 at 22:42
^^^
Yep, that'a the one.
 
I heard El Poeta some time ago and enjoyed it. I am not sure if the term Chamber Music fits this, but I have heard it being applied to them. It's like they have these musical sentences being brought together to form paragraphs. Hope this sounds logical.
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Points: 2888 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2006 at 22:34
Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:

^^^
bet Syzygy can answer this to your satisfaction.

Regarding boxsets I was also looking at the Mexican RIO band Decibel boxset released by the deceased Israeli label MIO. 3 cd's for 34$ (w/o shipping).
When I get more settled and less desperate for money here, I'll purchase both This Heat and Decibel.


Yes I will wait and see what Syzygy's reply to this, as I would be interested.

Would this happen to be DECIBEL - FIAT LUX? I was unawear this band had a boxset out! Obviously you like El Poeta Del Ruido?
    
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I bet Syzygy can answer this to your satisfaction.
 
Regarding boxsets I was also looking at the Mexican RIO band Decibel boxset released by the deceased Israeli label MIO. 3 cd's for 34$ (w/o shipping).
When I get more settled and less desperate for money here, I'll purchase both This Heat and Decibel.
 
 
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Well I am thinking this is going to be one of my next purchases, even though it is so expensive. With all the extra material you get plus all their albums it definately seems worth it. I have only heard their self titled album so far, but from what other people have said it is very likely I will like their other material. I was having a look at some of the This Heat material available to order in; for a little bit more their is supposedly a 7 disc set. Does anybody know anything about this or is this just a mistake?   

Yeah I saw it on ReR, but unforunately I don't have a credit card so it makes look for things on the internet a little harder, unless I can find something eBay for cheaper.   
    

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Originally posted by Black Velvet Black Velvet wrote:

Yes, I have only discovered this band over the last few days. but definately something I am going to listen to more intently. It is to early yet to make any comments.

Also I wanted to ask I was just going through the stock in my store, do you think $98 (US) is too much for the 6 disc This Heat boxset?
    
 
Oh, man I too want that This Heat boxset.
 
I saw it on RER for 80$ but without shipping which is free in North America (oh yeah I am part of it now, I forgot LOL).
I guess it is a good price, although, you should ask them to keep it in the side for you and then do some hunting around the net to see if you find something cheaper (although I don't think there will be).
 
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Yes, I have only discovered this band over the last few days. but definately something I am going to listen to more intently. It is to early yet to make any comments.

Also I wanted to ask I was just going through the stock in my store, do you think $98 (US) is too much for the 6 disc This Heat boxset?
    

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Here's a link to the first PA review of the Skeleton Crew album - The Country Of Blinds written by Syzygy:
 
Another band very much suitable for the lurkers of this thread.
 
 
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Originally posted by Black Velvet Black Velvet wrote:

Do you know anything about Kroko, Assaf. I'm wondering whether I should be really trying to chase down some of their music?
 
I have heard of them, and I am almost sure I have one of their albums (Furia) in my mobile Hard Drive, which is currently disconnected (for reasons you know). As soon as I have it connected I'll look if I have it and "tell" you what it's like.
I honestly don't remember right now what their music is like.
 
I'm sure you have seen already, but in any case here are some links about them:
 
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Do you know anything about Kroko, Assaf. I'm wondering whether I should be really trying to chase down some of their music?
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Originally posted by Black Velvet Black Velvet wrote:

Originally posted by eugene eugene wrote:

Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:

Let me post this issue I posted in the collabs zone in here as well, since I believe you people are more than qualified and able to adress this matter:
 

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When the team gets back in full action after all of our missing persons (including myself) get back to work, I think we need to consider moving Ensemble Nimbus from Jazz-Rock to RIO/Avant. This band, while having some of its current affiliations characteristics, is closer in sound and spirit to the world of RIO/Avant as far as I hear it on their album I have - Garmonbozia.


What do you think?

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That would be a right move! I did not even know they are considered to be jazz-rock.

Pick up Secret Chiefs 3 from metal parlours on your way as well.

 


I definately agree with eugene on this matter. They are worthy of the genre swap. I guess sometime bands like this tread a thin line, but for them in particular their RIO influences are more donimant.     
 
OK, great, I'm glad to see that I am not alone on this.
I'll wait for Joren to come back (since he is the head of the team) and make the swap, if the Jazz-rock team does not oppose (which I presume they won't). I've written a PM to Dick Heath of the Jazz-Rock team to see if this receives his approval. 
 


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