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Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Just listened to the original Amon Duul's 'Paradieswarts Duul' album (haven't spun it for over a year) - amateur though it may be, it's inventive and definitive Krautrock.
 
You might consider seeing if you can make a connection between this and the later stuff on AD2.
 
My "explanation" is simple ... in the early stuff you had the commune and everyone was a part of the fun and the party ... and by the time a handful of folks decided that they wanted the music to be more than just a drum circle ... you ended up with AD2. And of course, the first piece is a satire on the whole party ... that ended up with everyone stoned, drunk and having sex for sure! Or was it the excuse to be able to have sex? But the title suggests that you don't say no ... because if the God is ... then there will be sex! I think the whole thing is hilarious and still laugh at it, and the title cut of their first album ends in a rock'n'roll party, instead of just a communal drum circle!
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An under rated album and an Ozric influence I would think.
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Ah my embryo life. Good old days !
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David, that was great!  So glad you found that and posted it.  Way to turn that Embry-no into an Embry-yes!
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I've been struggling to find some live Embryo on YouTube for a long time now with little or no avail. Surprise surprise look what I found today:

Live from a jazz festival in Calcutta 1979.
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^ Drone cult, my love. Not progressive rock though ... Smile

Another cult-ish heavy Kraut-ish one is this combo (rejected in Psych).
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Another modern not-really-prog band that's heavily Krautrock inspired is Alpha Drone, an esoteric occult science-fiction themed black metal project with strong influences from both Krautrock (note the initials!) and first generation industrial in the vein of Nurse With Wound and early Current 93. Unlike a project like Aluk Todolo, though, AD are still predominantly on the black metal side.





I've also corresponded with the man behind the project on Facebook, and apparently he's working on a new album which is going to be radically different - more doom than black this time. From his description I'm imagining a more martial version of Ministry's Filth Pig actually.
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Thanks, Dave, I've been putting off ordering that `XX' album for quite a while now.

I streamed the first track of the `Live at Roadburn', and it somewhat reminded me of Guru Guru's `UFO', just not as truly dangerous and dark like that knockout work was. Still droning, heavy and thick, quite good!

Decisions, decisions....!

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I remember listening to that XX album and was a bit disappointed with the lack of new ideas. Sounds like autopilot to these ears. I'll bet the live album is more interesting though, although I have to admit never haven listened to itEmbarrassed
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Dave or anyone, have you guys by any chance heard either of the two most recent Electric Orange albums, either `XX' or `Live at Roadburn 2012'?

They're both on vinyl, with download codes for one of them, and I'm thinking of taking the plunge. Listening to them streaming online on their website, sound pretty promising!

I just hope they're instrumental albums. I bought the live DVD many years back, and not only was there several tracks with vocals, but I'm pretty sure the audio was out of synch with the footage.

Anyway, you can stream the two albums here:

http://www.electric-orange.com/eo/index.htm

or on their Bandcamp:

http://electricorange.bandcamp.com/album/xx
http://electricorange.bandcamp.com/album/live-at-roadburn-2012
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Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

Originally posted by Apsalar Apsalar wrote:

great to see some the dead c appreciation around these parts. the whole nz underground scene was a big influence on my tastes. i was lucky that a handful of independent stores in Australia had a penchant for stocking this kind of stuff.

HolyMoly what albums do you have so far?
Quite a few, in the short time I've been into them.  Most of them have been purchased downloads, but I've located a couple of CDs too.  Armed Courage, Future Artists, Harsh 70s Reality, Trapdoor F---ing Exit, Tusk, Vain Erudiite and Stupid, and The White House!

I've been listening for many years to Peter Jefferies, another NZ underground figure, but only discovered Dead C after doing some reading about one of his side projects, Two Foot Flame, which included Michael Morley.


you've picked up lots of good ones already. if i may, i'd also suggest: Clyma Est Mort (some great live recordings), Eusa Kills, Secret Earth and Patience. i've not heard any Two Foot Flame, but have enjoy some other Morley side projects like Gate and Wreck Small Speakers on Expensive Stereos.
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Most of us Big smile
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Does everyone in France talk like Captain Beefheart?
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The last sentence : translation.

These six labels (tax stickers) evoke much more a rural picnic by a beautiful summer afternoon than a crossing of sea bed with the prospect of a grouper neurasthenic or than a journey in the printed circuits of a synthesizer.
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Yes Steve. I thought immediately of Frrrrigidaire too Wink
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I don't understand a word of French, but I listened to the whole album and enjoyed it a lot.   Kind of reminded me of an Italian band you recommended me a few months back, Le Groupe X.  Or maybe I'm imagining it because I also listened to them today.  Whatever the case, a) it was good and b)  I don't understand French.
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Ahh ouiLOL

EDIT: If I really concentrate, I can probably get through this post with my school boy French. For those of you who only know the words 'Camembert' and 'Pommes Frites' - just look at the names involved, and you realise just how supergroupy this little act wasWink


Edited by Guldbamsen - September 18 2013 at 16:23
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More information on that strange band. In french Wink 

Liliental est un supergroup (vous savez, ces groupes souvent éphémères qui réunissent des membres de différents groupes déjà connus ; Audioslave, Velvet Revolver, Them Crooked Vultures ou Crosby Stills Nash & Young) krautrock dont l'existence n'a duré que six jours. Ils ne se sont pas brouillés au bout de six jours, hein. Le projet était clair dès le départ ; réunir six musiciens, faire six titres en six jours, et c'est tout. Qui sont donc ces musiciens qui nous regardent sur la pochette ? De gauche à droite, nous avons Conny Plank, le Monsieur Krautrock par excellence, producteur de Kraftwerk, Neu!, Cluster, Guru Guru, mais aussi de DAF et Brian Eno. Et ici, il délaisse un peu la console de mixage pour mettre la main à la pâte. Ensuite, nous avons Asmus Tietchens, qui deviendra plus tard un très prolifique compositeur d'expérimentations électroniques. Ensuite, nous avons Helmut Hattler du groupe jazzrock Kraan. Vient ensuite Dieter Moebius, de Cluster et Harmonia. Puis Johannes Pappert, un autre membre de Kraan. Et pour finir Okko Bekker, un autre expérimentateur électronique qui collaborera beaucoup avec Asmus Tietchens. Mmmhh, jazzrock, électronique, expérimental, enregistré en six jours ? Ca laisse présager un résultat pas très digeste, tout ça.
Bien au contraire, en fait. On obtient six véritables chansons, très gaies en comparaison avec les trucs ardus que peuvent pondre Bekker, Tietchens ou Moebius. Ce n'est ni jazz, ni krautrock, ni électronique, ni rock. C'est un savant mélange de tout ça, en dosages distillés de manière raisonnable. Tout est détendu, aussi bien les synthétiseurs que le saxophone, sans pour autant sonner "comme le limon suintant au fond de l'océan" (dixit Lester Bangs) de Tangerine Dream. Ces six vignettes évoquent bien plus un pique-nique champêtre par un bel après-midi d'été qu'une traversée des fonds marins dans la perspective d'un mérou neurasthénique ou qu'un voyage dans les circuits imprimés d'un synthétiseur. 
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Second listen. This is light, for sure, but this is good ...  even for a tuesday. Big smile
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This is pretty neat!   Just skipping through it, I 'm liking everything I hear.
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