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artguyken
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 05 2006 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 187 |
Posted: May 15 2007 at 07:58 | |
I've wondered about New Faust. Are you also familiar with Sixth Sense? How are they similar and how are they different? |
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artguyken
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 05 2006 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 187 |
Posted: May 15 2007 at 07:38 | |
Earlier Dirk said they didn't care for the vocals of Little Tragedies ( The Sixth Sense ) and I responded that they are a bit overly dramatic. I had it on in the car the other day when my 19 year old son got in. His comment: "Sounds like a soap opera!" My son is not a lover of prog; quite the contrary, but I thought it was an interesting observation. Edited by artguyken - May 15 2007 at 07:41 |
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eugene
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 30 2005 Location: Ukraine Status: Offline Points: 2703 |
Posted: May 15 2007 at 07:08 | |
It's always very good to hear dfferent opinions. As long as it is an "appreciation thread", I'd rather witheld my further comments about this band and album, but I will post something for sure in "what you dislike about russian prog" thread as soon as one appears, if any.
Sorry to be negative here, but there are quite a few really good Russian prog bands lately, really deserving wider recognition and praise.
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carefulwiththataxe
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erik neuteboom
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
Posted: May 14 2007 at 18:54 | |
Well Garion81, good to read that you like Lost World because at this moment I am really delighted about Russian bands, especially Lost World their album Awakening Of The Elements is great, so varied and dynamic, to me this seems an element of the new Russian prog movement
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Garion81
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Posted: May 14 2007 at 18:51 | |
First impression is they have a LOT of things going on differetn instruments and styles. I'll have to listen a few more times but I do like it.
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"What are you going to do when that damn thing rusts?" |
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erik neuteboom
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
Posted: May 14 2007 at 18:48 | |
Apple Pie too much AOR, Rivertree? Give it a few more listening sessions and you will have a totally different opinion
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Dirk
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 1043 |
Posted: May 14 2007 at 18:40 | |
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Prog-jester
Prog Reviewer Joined: June 05 2005 Location: Love Beach Status: Offline Points: 5872 |
Posted: May 12 2007 at 15:37 | |
Promised quick looks on AVIVA and KARFAGEN (see my reviews later )
AVIVA - they've impressed me with their variety and eclectic nature (mix ambient, ELPish prog and piano-driven avant altogether!), but failed to hold my attention after the 7th track. These last tracks (8-11) sound just like a too long coda. Hence I'd give it only 3.5 stars KARFAGEN amused me with their melodic side (a great pile of tunes to hum in bathroom ...no, really there are excellent jams like "Through A Stream Of Images" or "The Great Circus" and "Retrofall" is an awesome ballad), Anton has wonderful gift of writing catchy yet proggy motives...Use of accordion and sampled bagpipes made me wonder in a good way too. But overall I feel there's NO improvement comparing to their debut, which was perfect in its new agy CAMELism . This one is longer, a bit more easy-listening (while not new-agy) and even has one boring track (number 7) - IMHO. So, this is a bit better (4 stars), but still ain't perfect. Thanks for enduring these boring messages of mine, hope it'll make you more informed somehow... |
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Rivertree
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Posted: May 12 2007 at 15:35 | |
Hey - very funky/groovy a compelling Jazz Rock tune Thanks for the suggestion, Prog-jester |
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Prog-jester
Prog Reviewer Joined: June 05 2005 Location: Love Beach Status: Offline Points: 5872 |
Posted: May 12 2007 at 15:10 | |
Have some news from INFRONTers. First of all they successfully played on SKIF festival (dedicated to Sergey Kuryohin, a prominent firgure of Russian Avant and Experimental Art and Music). Also guys had rotation on Polish radio, along with new Kaipa and Genesis (a pleasant company ).
And there's a surprise - brand new song that won't be featured on a new INFRONT album!!! Total outtake! Morning Combinatorika (by band's permission) Enjoy!!! |
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Rivertree
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Posted: May 12 2007 at 14:29 | |
Apple Pie is too much AOR in my opinion - but I'll give it a new try |
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Rivertree
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Band Submissions Joined: March 22 2006 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 17628 |
Posted: May 12 2007 at 14:27 | |
Unfortunately I had not enough time to listen to INFRONT, Igor. But hey man - it's promised So it will need some other turnarounds for me to write a review with a passably substantial content If there is any chance to listen to the promo - let me know ... |
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artguyken
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 05 2006 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 187 |
Posted: May 12 2007 at 12:24 | |
Interesting posts. Now I'm really curious about Infront & Karfagen. I very much like LT's Sixth Sense (haven't heard anything else by them). Admittedly, the vocals tend to be on the dramatic side, but they don't bother me and the instrumentation is excellent. LW's Awakening of the Elements is a new favorite of mine, but it is pretty high energy, leaning toward Jazz Fusion. I think those who like Helmet of Gnats would enjoy it, also. Horizont definitely leans hard on the avant garde side. I find them too dissonant. (except for Snowballs, which I like very much) |
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eugene
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 30 2005 Location: Ukraine Status: Offline Points: 2703 |
Posted: May 12 2007 at 10:05 | |
I am listening to Apple Pie now - it's so unoriginal it's not even funny - plain ridiculous.
I mean it's fine to play tributes to your Idols, but you should put a note about it on the album...
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carefulwiththataxe
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eugene
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 30 2005 Location: Ukraine Status: Offline Points: 2703 |
Posted: May 12 2007 at 09:42 | |
^^^ and Disen Gage is also recommeded as long as you like Infront.
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carefulwiththataxe
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eugene
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 30 2005 Location: Ukraine Status: Offline Points: 2703 |
Posted: May 12 2007 at 09:39 | |
Notice you asking Igor, howevere reading that you (exactly as myself) like Karfagen and Infront as opposed to LT, I feel like I have to suggest Aviva (!) and Gourishankar to you. IMO Aviva is the best contemporary band from ex-Soviet territory, and Gourishankar is also very good.
And if you do not mind RIO/avant tendencies within Symphonic Prog - you must get both albums by Horizont - great stuff!!!
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carefulwiththataxe
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Prog-jester
Prog Reviewer Joined: June 05 2005 Location: Love Beach Status: Offline Points: 5872 |
Posted: May 12 2007 at 05:51 | |
Have you heard INFRONT? I guess you did! Their "Wordless" album is avalaible for free listening via their LastFM page. Also I got a promo from them, which contains 13-min footage of their live show on Moscow INPROG fest back in 2005 (Erik, have you seen it too? ). I hope it's avalaible via their site or LastFM page.Otherwise I'll ask them to upload it, because it's EXTREMELY SPECTACULAR !!! |
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Prog-jester
Prog Reviewer Joined: June 05 2005 Location: Love Beach Status: Offline Points: 5872 |
Posted: May 12 2007 at 05:47 | |
...and here he comes now First of all, I've listened both to AVIVA and new KARFAGEN, and still have mixed feelings about them (more information coming soon ). On Russian Prog recommendations - I have to agree about THE GOURISHANKAR first, as it's still the best Prog CD from 2007 I faced with!!! A mixture of Modern Prog and Symphonic Art, very varied and challenging! Sure you won't regret! BTW, guys plan to issue "2nd Hands" in Russia/post-USSR area in budget edition for their own money! It's a huge finance breakdown for them actually, but I appreciate their wish to make their music more avalaible. I guess I'll pick A COUPLE of their CDs as soon as find them as presents for friends On APPLE PIE - I agree with Erik, this is when "SPOCK'S BEARD's clone" (as someone unattentive might say) turns to be more original and challenging band than their "prototype". Very melodic and sometimes even AORish, they're less intriguing and eclectic than THE GOURISHANKAR, but everything's on its right place - they're great band in their own way, and I'm impatiently waiting for another release from them! |
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Rivertree
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Band Submissions Joined: March 22 2006 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 17628 |
Posted: May 10 2007 at 17:34 | |
Never wanted to be a monk
I'm not religious at all - Erik! |
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Rivertree
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Band Submissions Joined: March 22 2006 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 17628 |
Posted: May 10 2007 at 17:15 | |
Apple Pie is good but not exciting
For me Disen Gage and The Gourishankar are the surprising russian bands ... |
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