Am I reading this correctly?

Wow, this is funny thread, please allow me to participate slighlty

lmaorofllollmao wrote: I'm afraid i've gone over the hill with ELP, let me explain in a formal manner. Except for their debut (*****), Tarkus (*****), and maybe Still You turn Me On (***), i have never been pleased by emerson lake and palmer's somewhat nihilistic sound. I can't really notice ANY emotion wheni listen to "Karn Evil 9"...to me it's simply carnival music (pun intended), and most of their albums have alot of boring songs (specifically Tarkus).

I agree that personally I do not like Brain Salad Surgery, except for the two first marvelous tracks. Their debut and Pictures at An Exhibition are really great then, though the Nutrocker is quite annoying in my humble opinion.
About the feelings, I quess nihilistic anxiety can be a state of emotion also, though not possibly enjoyble by all?
Trilogy and Tarkus have great moments, but also some uninteresting sequences too.

I personally never liked Änglagård as much as majority, though there are wonderful moments among annoying arrangements and compositional solutions. Same blasphyme I'' iconoclast for King Crimson's debut (which I think they reworked better for their second album) and Van Der Graaf Generator's "Pawn Hearts", where the grat themes are in my opinion lost to too confusing aprroach and cacophonic perspection. Maybe I haven't had enough LSD to tune in to the record. As a remark - I think the studio recording process has somehow affected to the end result in negative way for me, as the filmed live in studio version of "Plague of The Lighthouse Keeppers" is much better than on the LP, actually very wonderful.

Hmmh... "Hybris". That was #1 already in 2004 when observing the history link revealing how lovely everything was banck then... It is enthusiastic blow on the renaissance of symphonic prog of 90's, and the darker Swedish mellotron-drive wave of bands from that time really reveals that the country is inhabited by feeling and artistically skillful musical people, real offspring of Bellman who hailed high culture when across the bay people were eating fish eyes in the forests and crawling in sh*t with some reindeer capes
Got my own copy of that debut CD from the shop around millenia's change for 15€, and noted at some point that it was exchanging owners for about 100$ in ebay. Hopefully the reissues are done, and I really look forward of the latest Viljan's Öga album. One song I heard was muych moar consistent from structure than the compositions on their eralier two albums.

I think all kind of lists indicate some sort of trends and fashions, never objective truth of quality as such can't measure. I suggest focusing to form own opinions and enjoy the world's beautiful artifacts without comparing your likings to other people's opinions. I dare to claimn it's one step closer to independence and freedom of compassion.

Peace to you all

octopus-4 wrote: btw, I think CAMEL should be on top 10

Hell yes they should. I can't believe they got voted into the Hall of Shame in the Battle of the Bands thread.

btw, I think CAMEL should be on top 10 and I've started a thread to force The Human Equation into the top 100....I don't really care at all. Top 100 is a list of albums rated by a lot of people which can be useful for newbies searching for something to start with prog. 

I'm afraid i've gone over the hill with ELP, let me explain in a formal manner.

Except for their debut (*****), Tarkus (*****), and maybe Still You turn Me On (***), i have never been pleased by emerson lake and palmer's somewhat nihilistic sound. I can't really notice ANY emotion wheni listen to "Karn Evil 9"...to me it's simply carnival music (pun intended), and most of their albums have alot of boring songs (specifically Tarkus).

lmaorofllollmao wrote: Elp is the most overrated prog band on earth. The problem is- THEYRE PRETENTIOUS AS HECK! While they are fine artists, it seems like lots of their songs is just a bunch of randomn playing on the keyboard, and then all the masses go "OMG THATS IMPOSSIBLE TO PLAY", not even thinking about what they're listening to.

rogerthat wrote: Moogtron III wrote: moshkito wrote: Snow Dog wrote: rogerthat wrote:   ELP had many great tracks but no one masterpiece album.   Brain Salad Surgery. Trilogy   Agreed with Snow Dog ... I would even include Pictures at an Exhibition which is, by far, one of the best interpretations of the piece ever done! Tomita's is probably the 2nd one! I think the debut is a masterpiece too. Brilliant album  Disagree with all of these.  So...it is not an universal perception and therefore, none of their albums have 4.5 plus ratings.  They were just that kind of band.  Too inconsistent and too performance-oriented.  Welcome Back..., though, ought to get a very high rating, one of the best live prog albums.

Edited by Snow Dog - October 04 2012 at 06:37

When I was 17, ELP was the bomb-diggity. I'd play Lucky Man over and over and over. Whee! I'd have rated ELP's debut 5/5 10/10 15/15 A+ Two thumbs up five stars really super 10.0, swell and neato supreme. I was a FAN, dammit. 

Coltrane's Ole is my favourite of his, though I love A Love Supreme and Giant Steps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddlh2VMfGqY

I really love some of Alice Coltrane's work too (especially Universal Consciousness)

I don't much care for Miles Davis' Kind of Blue, though I love lots of his stuff.

Oh, no, I can't pick up ANY Coltrane album - A Love Supreme is really the only one, maybe some collaborations with more traditional melodists. And even with it I can scarce remember four minutes of the work (having heard it in entirety at least five times), assuming some of it will be that whiddlywhiddly whaddle saxophone turkey bleating solo stuff.

Alitare wrote: I played in a jazz ensemble for years. I've been trained as a classical/jazz saxophone player for nearly 11 years. I've listened to more records of music than I can remember. I've studied, written about, pontificated about, explored, and played so many genres, styles, and movements that I can't believe how much of it I DO recall - American blues and folk from the 1920's. 1950's Gospel, 1960's Country, black metal, ambient, experimental rock, post-rock, fusion, post-punk, psychedelic, baroque, romantic, new age, world influence, trip hop, thrash, new wave, reggae - the list goes on and on and on and on... And I STILL don't know how to appreciate Miles fuggin' Davis. Not A Love Supreme, though - that one kicks ass. Ah, as to clarify - Coltrane is much easier for me to appreciate and enjoy. He performed this MAGICAL version of In a Sentimental Mood with Duke Ellington that nearly brought me to tears.

Thank you! I have similarly broad taste, but I cannot appreciate Miles. I don't like a Love Supreme either, though. It's not just a jazz thing, because I have since found a lot of jazz records I love, but I cannot get into those two artists.