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Posted: January 02 2012 at 18:43

u jk rite

Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.

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Posted: January 02 2012 at 18:37

Dean wrote:

progprogprog wrote:

Dean wrote:

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Dean wrote:

^ you need to change your username.

^ Any suggestions!?

Several. None of them printable.

Anyways.why my words pissed you off dear?

Not yet. It takes a lot to piss me off and I don't recommend trying. Judging by your posts thus far I don't think that you justify three Prog's in your name since you don't like anything post 1980 or anything electronic, which accounts for at least 2/3rds of all Prog.

No need for trying to piss someone off here.I just thought maybe I made a mistake, Or offended someone, dunno.

And your right about my username, I should delete the two last prog Wink

Edited by progprogprog - January 02 2012 at 18:37

Always thinking in extremes.That's my way to beat boredom.

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Posted: January 02 2012 at 18:32

Snow Dog wrote:

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Dean wrote:

^ you need to change your username.

^ Any suggestions!?

Dickhead?

I'll try harder. Smile

That's your call buddy Tongue

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Posted: January 02 2012 at 18:31

progprogprog wrote:

Dean wrote:

progprogprog wrote:

Dean wrote:

^ you need to change your username.

^ Any suggestions!?

Several. None of them printable.

Anyways.why my words pissed you off dear?

What?

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Posted: January 02 2012 at 18:29

progprogprog wrote:

Dean wrote:

progprogprog wrote:

Dean wrote:

^ you need to change your username.

^ Any suggestions!?

Several. None of them printable.

Anyways.why my words pissed you off dear?

Ha! you're Site Admin & Moderator Bowdown

That's how you get into a fight with media, hm. LOL

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Posted: January 02 2012 at 18:27

Snow Dog wrote:

progprogprog wrote:

Dean wrote:

^ you need to change your username.

^ Any suggestions!?

Dickhead?

I'll try harder. Smile

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Posted: January 02 2012 at 18:24

Dean wrote:

progprogprog wrote:

Dean wrote:

^ you need to change your username.

^ Any suggestions!?

Several. None of them printable.

Anyways.why my words pissed you off dear?

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Posted: January 02 2012 at 18:20

progprogprog wrote:

Dean wrote:

^ you need to change your username.

^ Any suggestions!?

Several. None of them printable.

What?

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Posted: January 02 2012 at 18:20

Snow Dog wrote:

progprogprog wrote:

Dean wrote:

^ you need to change your username.

^ Any suggestions!?

Dickhead?

Don't like that one, thank you anyway.

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Posted: January 02 2012 at 18:17

progprogprog wrote:

Dean wrote:

^ you need to change your username.

^ Any suggestions!?

Dickhead?

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Posted: January 02 2012 at 18:16

Personally I like the sound of a synth just as much as much as the sound of any acoustic or normal electrified instrument.

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Posted: January 02 2012 at 18:14

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^ you need to change your username.

^ Any suggestions!?

Edited by progprogprog - January 02 2012 at 18:15

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Posted: January 02 2012 at 18:12

^ you need to change your username.

What?

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Posted: January 02 2012 at 18:03

Slartibartfast wrote:

The beauty of the acoustic instrument is that it is easy to pick up and put down. I still love electronics and hardly consider them to be fake.

You love electronics!

Man, it doesn't, and you can't, I won't, and it don't
it hasn't, it isn't, it even ain't, and it shouldn't
it couldn't LOL

Just kidding buddy.If you mean progressive electronic kinda thing, I must say it's quite innovative, and absolutely deserve considering it.I point those things out(in my previous post), because IMO nowadays most bands tend to make things too electronic, you know.

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Posted: January 02 2012 at 18:01

I tend to prefer electronics when it's not simulating acoustic instruments.

I'm not that into Prog proper, but I do love a lot of progressive music and a lot of music that is in and that relates to the music that PA puts under the Prog umbrella. I'm more likely to be listening to 60s and 70s library music than Prog genre music. I'm still extensively into various categories at PA very much such as RIO/Avant (my infatuation with Art Zoyd never seems to go away), Krautrock, Electronic, JRF, Canterbury and Zeuhlish music. And I do love a lot of musique concrete, jazz, folk, ethnic music, and classical (using the term generally).

Included in the 'chives, I tend to return to Art Zoyd, Wakhevitch, Hancock and Davis the most, but also Cos, Spirogyra, Magma, Tangerine Dream, Can, Area etc.

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Posted: January 02 2012 at 16:12

progprogprog wrote:

About "Electronic"ized Future;

in my opinion beauty of music is mostly in instruments like flutes, percussions and ancient guitars.You can feel their pureness in your blood while you playing them.A tiny IC hardly give you such deepness.

During the whole history of human life, these simple instruments entertained peoples greatly.Fake sounds just spoil this originality.Unless those electric stuff that introduce totally new sounds, though I believe, it's better to take this effort for making new natural stuff, say, a new flute made from Chinese sugarcane Wink

.(I know, it's like a joke, but I wasn't sarcastic)

I used to love aggressiveness in melodies and chords, but now not much, I'm more calm and my mind is more peaceful compare to earlier.It made me appreciate autochthonous(local) musics, like African, Chinese, Latino, Indian, Middle Eastern, Scandinavian, and so on.

Still enjoy classic prog and jazz fusions, though. Approve

The beauty of the acoustic instrument is that it is easy to pick up and put down. I still love electronics and hardly consider them to be fake.

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Posted: January 02 2012 at 15:56

About "Electronic"ized Future;

During the whole history of human life, these simple instruments entertained peoples greatly.Fake sounds just spoil this originality.Unless those electric stuff go to introduce totally new sounds, though I believe, it's better to take this effort for making new natural stuff, say, a new flute made from Chinese sugarcane Wink

.(I know, it's like a joke, but I wasn't sarcastic)

Still enjoy classic prog and jazz fusions, though. Approve

Edited by progprogprog - January 02 2012 at 17:28

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Posted: January 02 2012 at 15:23

Manuel wrote:

OT Räihälä wrote:

(Happy New Year to everybody!)

I guess a lot of prog fans are more fans of progressivity, i.e. not of prog as a music style, if we mean with prog all rock-related music that goes beyond the most common features of rock/pop music. That progressivity was more often found in the old prog rock of the late 60's / early to mid 70's, when artistic thinking in rock was not ridiculed by the music press, than nowadays when 9/10 bands sound unimaginative. Nowadays I think there are even more prog bands than there used to be 40 years ago, but very few of them are progressive in their thinking - and I think that is the thing that makes you lose your interest.

I agree with you that there's so much more to find in jazz and classical music. For example the new generation of Nordic jazz musicians (esp. Norway, Sweden and Finland) are nigh on revolutionizing the genre. And contemporary art music has stylistic and musical richness that pop/rock music can only dream of, but very few know any of these works because art music has become too marginal phenomenon; that music is seldom performed live and there are even fewer recordings. Of course there is still a lot to find in old classical music (and I believe the early 20th century music will speak to many prog fans) and I urge everyone who doesn't puke at hearing for example RIO/avant-prog to start listening to the art music of the last century.

Well said. This is exactly my point and pretty much how I feel. I'm not really into "Prog" as a genre (unless the music is well written and exciting), but of "Progressive music" which is more than just odd meters, long pieces, lots of solos, changes in tempo, etc.

I've discovered many great musicians in other genres who would put prog musicians in shame by the quality of their play and compositions, and so much great music out there which would be rejected for not being "prog", which has better quality songwriting, arrangements, orchestration, etc. We just needs an open mind while listening, and the reward is fulfilling and satisfying.

I also feel that the mid to late 19th Century classical music (the Late Romantics) is something that could speak to prog fans as well-Berlioz, Brahms, Bruckner, Wagner, Franck, Liszt, Mahler-myself, i like that music for the same reasons i do good prog-a wedding of cerebral, complex technique and real gutsy emotion in the same breath Tongue

Edited by presdoug - January 02 2012 at 15:30

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Posted: January 02 2012 at 14:27

Slartibartfast wrote:

Grendel does borrow heavily from Supper's Ready but I don't hold it against the song. I still like it.

Agreed. I think the point, though, in the context of this thread is just how much Marillion have "progressed" since Grendel, and the fact that they still make exciting and challenging music is a joy to behold.

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Posted: January 02 2012 at 14:23

Grendel does borrow heavily from Supper's Ready but I don't hold it against the song. I still like it.

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