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Points: 15585 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2009 at 12:48
Will be checked out, thanks for reporting. Remember though that ratings without reviews have much reduced influence on the ratings calculations.
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Points: 32524 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2009 at 12:48
The only way a person can successfully "manipulate" ratings (other than by creating multiple accounts or hacking into the system) is quite simply if no one else rates or reviews albums. 

Those "rebel" ratings can be just as valid (I've given my share of 1, 2, and 3 star reviews to "masterpieces"), and they will only have a huge impact if an album has very few reviews.  Otherwise, the system will eventually correct itself, and those one or two "off-the-wall" ratings won't matter so much.
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Points: 5195 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2009 at 12:33
^ Of course I agree that those ratings can hardly be taken seriously ... but where do you draw the line? I've seen many collabs give 1 star to albums that are firmly in the 4-5 stars range with broad support from normal members and collabs ... should we nuke those "hateboys" too?
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Points: 16913 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2009 at 10:09

I agree that such blatant fanboy-ism should be nuked when it is this obvious.  We should have a SC in charge of sniffing out such attempts to manipulate, and that person should have the power to take action swiftly and nuke the account (under the fast approval of Admin of course, until the person's judgement is trustworthy).   Unfortunately I doubt this will happen. 

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Points: 997 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2009 at 09:52
^^^ Yes, but that's just a consequence of the used algorithm...It will go down when more serious (collaborators) reviews are posted. I didn't post this complaint because I want to see Gazpacho high, but just because I think it's crazy that only PF would be 5* and all the rest garbage... The person clearly wants to see the PF albums high in the charts....
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Points: 46301 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2009 at 09:46
Incidentally, something has happen, so that Tick Tock is in the top 20 albums ALL-TIME with just 25 ratings. Confused
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Points: 5195 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2009 at 09:43
I'd say: All is fair in love, war and ratings.Wink
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Points: 997 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2009 at 09:40
I was looking at the new Gazpacho album, and saw there is one rating with 1 star. I can't believe somebody can rate that album that low, so I checked the user to see what he rated more. This is what I found:

http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=23553

All Pink Floyd albums rated at 5*, TD's Phaedra also 5*, and the rest (all Genesis, Yes, Rush, etc etc...) 1*

All ratings without review... Looks like a clear case of (attempt at) list manipulation....
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