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Eetu Pellonpaa 
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 Posted: March 23 2006 at 08:15 |
 MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Eetu Pellonpää wrote:
I think CD is like having a normal cup of coffee, and vinyl is then like an espresso with belgian chocolates with a glass of armagnac!  |
How about listening to CD while having an espresso with belgian chocolates with a glass of armagnac?
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No! A gramophone! Well, a CD would go in emergency situation.
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oliverstoned
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Posted: March 23 2006 at 05:08 |
Ok, so a big CD
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: March 23 2006 at 04:11 |
Eetu Pellonpää wrote:
I think CD is like having a normal cup of coffee, and vinyl is then like an espresso with belgian chocolates with a glass of armagnac! |
How about listening to CD while having an espresso with belgian chocolates with a glass of armagnac?
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Eetu Pellonpaa
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Posted: March 23 2006 at 03:26 |
I think CD is like having a normal cup of coffee, and vinyl is then like an espresso with belgian chocolates with a glass of armagnac!
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oliverstoned
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Posted: March 23 2006 at 03:14 |
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No, vynil is better!!
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stan the man
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Posted: March 22 2006 at 23:36 |
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I find listening to vinyls funner and more intiment. It seems to have a warmer sound. But overall CD has better quality sound imo.
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true as a lobster in a pteredaktyl's underpants.
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The-Bullet
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Posted: March 22 2006 at 22:02 |
oliverstoned wrote:
Some vynils are 70 years old and still in perfect condition...
So, that's not an issue at all.
For sure, there are huge diference between a 180g and a flexible lower quality vynil.
But, anyway vynil -or rather analog in general- will always sounds better very simply cause analog doesn't alter the signal's integrity as digital does.
Now, you can have some pleasure in digital...but you have to pay a lot!!! more than analog! |
But don't analogue sources deteriorate with every listen even using the highest quality hi-fi equipment and top quality vynil/tape ?.
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"Why say it cannot be done.....they'd be better doing pop songs?"
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oliverstoned
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Posted: March 22 2006 at 06:41 |
That's it. And that's why i invested much into CD playback system...To have pleasure on digital and enjoy the great choice available on CD. Also, i must admit that CD is more convenient.
You can even have a lot of pleasure, but you have to have a solid bank account:
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: March 22 2006 at 06:28 |
oliverstoned wrote:
Those who say that simply don't know.
A good Rega Planar 3 explodes most CD players.
It's like that, and theres nothing to do to change it.
Digital doesn't works, that's sad. However, with much investment and optiization, you can reach an acceptable
level of satisfaction on CD.
But if you put a good vynil on a good turntable beside, you cry. |
What can you do if most of the music you like is not even published on vinyl? Does that mean that you'll never be able to really enjoy the music (only "acceptable" is certainly not good enough)?
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oliverstoned
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Posted: March 22 2006 at 06:20 |
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Those who say that simply don't know.
A good Rega Planar 3 explodes most CD players.
It's like that, and theres nothing to do to change it.
Digital doesn't works, that's sad. However, with much investment and optimization, you can reach an acceptable
level of satisfaction on CD.
But if you put a good vynil on a good turntable beside, you cry.
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GoldenSpiral
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Posted: March 21 2006 at 22:46 |
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After much debate and debacle, I decided that it's all a totally subjective matter. certain things sound better on vinyl because its the way they were originally made, or because that medium suits them better. Other things tend to sound better in the digital realm because that is the way they were conceived. I really don't think theres a scientific answer to this one.
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Drew
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Posted: March 21 2006 at 22:27 |
CD! get with the times
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cobb
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Posted: March 21 2006 at 21:28 |
MP3's - gets rid of those annoying highs on digital CD
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oliverstoned
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Posted: March 21 2006 at 13:26 |
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Some vynils are 70 years old and still in perfect condition...
So, that's not an issue at all.
For sure, there are huge diference between a 180g and a flexible lower quality vynil.
But, anyway vynil -or rather analog in general- will always sounds better very simply cause analog doesn't alter the signal's integrity as digital does.
Now, you can have some pleasure in digital...but you have to pay a lot!!! more than analog!
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Dick Heath
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Posted: March 21 2006 at 13:10 |
But vinyl is still a crap polymer for analog discs - although better than shellac of the old 78's, admittedly - but with plastic techology having evolved phenomenally 50 or more years since vinyl was first introduced, its about time a far better quality plastic or elastomer be used - they are certainly available - which
- doesn't pick up static
- doesn't scratch so easily, indeed positively scratch resistant
- doesn't warp
- gives a far higher level of reproduction from the master, gives longer life to the sub-masters
- comes in any colour you like
CD are made from polycarbonate metallised with pure aluminium, which is typical protected from oxidation by an acrylic-urethane lacquer, and as such 25 years on still is pretty cutting edge combination of materials.
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Lindsay Lohan
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Posted: March 14 2006 at 15:21 |
Snow Dog wrote:
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Do you prefer CD because it is more practical? Why not go the full step to mp3 then? Thats even more practical?  |
It sounds better...thats why.
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It sounds better than vinyl??? Ah well i give up 
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Snow Dog
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Posted: March 14 2006 at 15:19 |
Lindsay Lohan wrote:
Do you prefer CD because it is more practical? Why not go the full step to mp3 then? Thats even more practical? |
It sounds better...thats why.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: March 14 2006 at 15:19 |
Lindsay Lohan wrote:
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^ let's not go there - at least not in this thread. agreed? |
Well do you disagree that a cheap vinyl player for the price for forexample at $250 sounds better than a cd player for $250?
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Yes I do. But discussing that here in this thread is rather off topic. It's not good CD player vs. cheap CD player.
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Lindsay Lohan
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Posted: March 14 2006 at 15:16 |
Do you prefer CD because it is more practical? Why not go the full step to mp3 then? Thats even more practical?
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Snow Dog
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Posted: March 14 2006 at 15:16 |
Lindsay Lohan wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
^ let's not go there - at least not in this thread. agreed? |
Well do you disagree that a cheap vinyl player for the price for forexample at $250 sounds better than a cd player for $250?
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I dont agree.....................is that cheap anyway? its more mid price isnt it? Is that US dollars? Hm maybe it is cheap!
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