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cstack3 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: July 20 2009 Location: Tucson, AZ USA Status: Offline Points: 7420 |
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Lots of talk about Dream Theater....as a practicing musician who's seen them in concert, I'd like to say that DT seems to be into fast, long solos for their own sake. Amazing technicians, but really, you could cut down on the blazing guitar solos and put some heart & soul into it!
Technically, John Petrucci is one of the "best" guitarists I've ever seen (spoiler alert = I know RF), and his technique and skills are amazing! I especially enjoy when DT covers other bands like King Crimson. However, I just don't listen to them much. The keyboards are also quite over-done and overwhelming IMHO. Wish I could play like that!
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GENESIS.....but I like some of their solo stuff like i.e. Smallcreep's Day and some PG. Dream Theater is another I can't get into even if Images and Words is a good album. I had this problem with Tangerine Dream for many years then I became a fan, time will tell... |
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I have this issue with Low... and actually with Ziggy Stardust.
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Not a band, and only prog-related, but I'm going to go ahead and lose my cool points by saying that after the Ziggy Stardust album, I can't get through a David Bowie album. I like a few songs here and there post-Ziggy: "We are the Dead" is haunting, "Heroes" is pretty epic and "Modern Love" is fun and catchy. but foor the most part, I'm like one of those old classic rock fans when it comes to Bowie.
I should like the Berlin trilogy at least, cause they're revered by the shades-wearing hip crowd, as well as others, including his last, but I just can't, not even Diamond Dogs. I'm so lame I guess!
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Start with Leg End, it's easily the most accessible, don't go anywhere near Western Culture until you're 'getting' the others.
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cstack3 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: July 20 2009 Location: Tucson, AZ USA Status: Offline Points: 7420 |
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Man, is this thread cathartic or what??
Myself, I don't get into Rush nearly as much as others on PA seem to. I followed the band from day one, every band in high school seemed to cover "Working Man!" I saw them on a tiny college stage when "Fly by Night" was released, which was fun! I do enjoy the odd Rush song when it pops up on classic rock radio, but I don't sit down with their CDs and study them the way that I do with Yes, King Crimson, and Genesis. Neil Peart is a fine drummer, but I'm more into Bruford, Pierre Moerlen and others. Edited by cstack3 - October 18 2019 at 00:19 |
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YESESIS ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 26 2017 Location: Maine Status: Offline Points: 2215 |
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Henry Cow, I've tried but feels like work to try to like it. Some of it didn't even really sound musical to me. I'm pretty open minded when it comes to music, I think. I love Gentle Giant, starting to love Van der Graaf Generator, been listening to a lot of King Crimson this past week, love Spock's Beard, LOVE Frank Zappa. But Henry Cow idk, I'll try again at some point though.
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 37598 |
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^ And here I thought Prog Metal equaled metal plus keyboards. ;)
There's some awesome to my ears early "heavy metal" with keyboards, but that's for another topic. |
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^ Maybe I need to hear more Queensryche but I don't really see how they are more progressive than Iron Maiden or Metallica. It seems to me the only reason they are considered prog metal and Iron Maiden and Metallica aren't is because of their use of keyboards. Metallica and Iron Maiden both seemed to have the technical elements of prog metal(time changes and instrumental sections) but without the window dressing(strings, keyboards etc).
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 37598 |
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Well, Iron Maiden and Metallica are in "Prog Related", which is not thought of as a Prog category (although I would argue that Prog exists in the category, but Prog is to an extent in the ear of the behearer -- often depends on the specific associations we make with particular music). Anyway, such music is not my scene so I won't comment on the Prog quotient or Prog relatedness of any of those (even if I have read the arguments over the years). Except, I do know Queensryche's "Silent Lucidity" from its music video when it was new, and that certainly sounded very Pink Floyd related to me (as to how Prog Floyd is is also debatable). Personally. I don't "try" to get into metal bands, or really any bands for many years, and my enjoyment is not predicated on how "Prog" something sounds to me. Most of the so-called Prog I like fits more under a Prog umbrella and a purist might consider outside of it. Edited by Logan - October 17 2019 at 21:31 |
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sidc58 ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: January 03 2014 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 36 |
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Well Queensryche, Iron Maiden, and Metallica are on this site. There are a number of artists on this site that I do not consider to be Prog.
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A curse upon the heads of those who seek their fortunes in a lie. The truth is always waiting when there's nothing left to try. - Colin Henson, Jade Warrior (Now)
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Interesting topic. I can appreciate the aesthetic of prog music. I am primarily a jazz guy so prog definitely feeds that need. But there were some bands who have been labeled prog and i just dont like them for one reason or another:
VDGG IQ Dream Theater (although I love Kevin Moore) Spocks Beard (hate the voice on all these). not a fan of Art Bears, but I love Henry Cow and Slap Happy. Blasphemy as it is, I've never been a die hard beatles fan. I will occasionally listen but never purposely play a beatles song. Oddly enough a lot of my favorite things are born out of beatles fan-dom so maybe I'm nuts. Prefer King crimson but only Larks tongues to three of a perfect pair. Everything else is kinda crap to me although I am a total fan of Jakko Jakszyk and Adrian Belew. This question/post has almost nearly driven me mad. I think I could go on for days. The beauty of Progressive Rock and music in general is the variety of flavors. It is important to note, that taste evolves. Who knows I may eventually fall in love with all the stuff above. This is what makes life worth living and FUN. Cheers! ![]() |
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Wilson/Porcupine Tree >> I stopped after Lightbulb, but only Sky Moves Sideways did something for me... during the 90's. Saga - they were not really a hit in their hometown (Toronto) before hitting it big in Germany Flower Kings - I tried hard to, but I totally gave up the first time I saw them live (on the Stardust tour, I think) when they couldn't playe Retropolis.
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 37598 |
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I quite commonly prefer The Beatles influenced bands than The Beatles themselves (that's lot of bands to choose from). I like Yes best when it sort of meets King Crimson. I'm not big on Yes. I loved Fragile as a teenager, and I still like it but rarely return to it, and I enjoy Time and a Word as well as The Yes album. For an album, I've probably given Close to the Edge more "tries" than any other album I never got into. I like the title-track, but even that not altogether. One certainly needn't enjoy Yes to enjoy this forum. |
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I prophesy disaster ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 31 2017 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 4922 |
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I much prefer King Crimson influenced bands than King Crimson themselves. |
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No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man.
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I prophesy disaster ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 31 2017 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 4922 |
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Gentle Giant: Octopus is the only album I like and even that I do not love.
King Crimson: Some tracks I like a lot but many others don't appeal to me at all. |
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No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man.
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ProgMetaller2112 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 08 2012 Location: Pacoima,CA,USA Status: Offline Points: 3150 |
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Iron Maiden and Metallica aren't Prog
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Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
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Manuel ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 09 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 13481 |
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Most of all prog-metal bands, Marrilion, IQ, The Mars Volta, to name a few.
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verslibre ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 18812 |
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Ditto. I don't own anything after Clutching at Straws. I tried. I do like the title track of This Strange Engine, though.
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