Russian chemical attack on UK

^ looks like we're kindred spirits. I was also a biology major but i was a linguistics freak and studied Russian, German, Spanish, Italian and French as well. All along though i have been very interested in just about every other aspect of reality so call me the ultimate nerd. I fit the bill. There is another aspect as to why false flags occur. I have also been a student of metaphysics and spriritual practices. It seems that black magic is being used to manipulate the world on governmental levels. Purportedly rediscovered by Queen Elizabeth's sorcerer at hand in the 1500s and used to usurp power. I know it sounds crazy but the whole reason pedophilia exists is to split personalities in humans so they can be manipulated by mind control. Also we are living in nothing more than an adult version of Monsters Inc where the power hungry elites harvest our fears after such attacks. Their greatest fear is that our group consciousness will merge and awaken to our true powers. Since they are not allowed by the universe to carry these things out without revealing their intentions, there is purportedly a declaration of the three world wars (one, two and terror) on display in the Library of London i believe. I have heard from those who have seen it that it is indeed quite real. Politicians are not really in control. They are indeed puppets of the hidden elites just as the Pope is a front for the "black pope." It's all really wild the deeper you dig into this stuff. 

Davesax1965 wrote: Incidentally, I'd like to ask how the Bay of Pigs was "a false flag". Russian nerve agent found at the site, no false flag. So much for the conspiracy theory.  Unless you want to believe (as in X Files) that UK Gov PLC "made it up", in which case, you can disbelieve any fact whatsoever, which is what conspiracy theorists tend to do.  So I blame Jeremy Clarkson, that's just as rational. Jezzer is behind it.

I had a run in with the FSB. 

True story. 1998, Sheremetievo Airport, Moscow. Accidentally ripped my visa in half. A nice gentleman in a grey suit took me into a side room and handed me a sellotape dispenser and invited me to tape my visa back up before I left Russia. Four of his friends were standing there with AK-74's so I thought discretion was the better part of value. I did point out the flight was due to Paris in 15 minutes. 

"The plane leaves when we tell it to", he helpfully informed me. 

Smert Schpionam really existed not to get rid of spies, more to act as an informer network in the lead up to the Great Purges of 1936 and 1937. However, the Russians always have had an interest in getting shut of the predatel - traitor - and Machiavellian assassinations, occasionally on foreign soil, have always happened. As Trotsky can tell you, once he gets rid of the ice pick. 

There's quite a lot of conspiracy theories on this thread and I'd ask the advocates of the whackier theories - (a) Ever been to the USSR or Russia ? (b) Aware of Russian history ? (c) Resident in Europe (as it's the sphere of influence for Russia, the US is generally not (I know Trotsky was assassinated in Mexico, yeah yeah.) 

If the answers to these questions is "no" then you're falling into the usual Internet pattern of "opinion rather than knowledge", I'm afraid. 

Another funny I did in Moscow was go off to see the Lubyanka. Nearly got knocked down outside it by a gang of Russian criminals with faces like blind cobblers' thumbs. Car screeched around a corner, scattering pedestrians, I just thought "zhopa" and stood there look a tough English idiot. "Pashol von, mudaki", I shouted at them as the car missed me by two inches. My bad Russian accent probably saved me as if they'd understand me, I'd have more metal in my chest than Leonid Brezhnev. (600 medals.) 

Blacksword wrote: M27Barney wrote: We may be a small country but we still have the ability to nuke some sense into any bigger adversary - think of us as an angry short ginger bloke with an AK47....... Indeed, like the small guy has the ability the punch the big guy, before the big guy crushes him like a gingernut biscuit, and makes a radioactive cheescake base out of him.

SteveG wrote: Atavachron wrote: Who gains most from the death of a Russian spy?  Other Russian spies.  Excellent example. No one is claiming that false flags don't exist, only that in this case it's unlikely and that's the difference when people try to argue their paranoid agenda. And make no mistake about it, a big part of paranoia is the failure to reason rationally.

Atavachron wrote: In other words the British are less obvious about killing spies than the Russians.

We have to be more discreet. We're a fairly insignifcant country on the world stage. We're like the angry short guy at the bar, absusing the big guy, but always making sure there is a clear passage to the exit, and that 'our big guy' the US, is right behind us. All mouth and no trousers.

Edited by omphaloskepsis - March 15 2018 at 05:59

• Mrs May said the government had come to the conclusion that the 'Russian state was responsible for the attempted assassination of Sergei Skripal and his daughter'.
• She announced the eviction of 40 per cent of diplomats from the Russian embassy, with 23 being ordered to leave the UK within a week.
• The PM confirmed that ministers and the Royal Family will boycott the World Cup in Russian this summer. She also suggested the FA will want to 'consider their position' in light of her statement. 
• The government will bring forward legislation to toughen powers to impose sanctions and tackle espionage by foreign states. 
• Paving the way for a crackdown on Russian oligarchs, Mrs May said there would be tighter checks on those coming to the UK and there could be 'no place' for corruption.
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• The UK has summoned an urgent meeting of the UN security council to discuss the nerve agent attack amid calls for international reprisals.
• Jeremy Corbyn prompted fury by calling for 'dialogue' with Russia and refusing to give a full-throated condemnation, while his spokesman suggested the security services might be wrong because they claimed there were WMD in Iraq. 

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Edited by omphaloskepsis - March 15 2018 at 05:16

There is no evidence this was a false flag operation. They do happen, I get that, but there is no supporting evidence for that in this case.

That said, who are any of us to guess what goes on? We don't know the half of it. Of that I'm certain. Information is a dangerous thing, and people often react violently to truth.