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Dopeydoc 
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"A day in the life" is prog. "When I'm 64" not!
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: April 27 2017 at 13:43 |
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I don't think anyone here is dismissing the legacy of Pepper nor it's progressive tendencies, but the question is whether not it's a prog album. I certainly don't think it is. A progressive release that spans baroque pop, psych, vaudeville and big lush orchestral sweeps? Sure.
The Beach Boys made an album the year before that you can attach the same characteristics to ( Pet Sounds which inspired ze Beatles to make Pepper according to Macca).
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Catcher10
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Posted: April 27 2017 at 13:41 |
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noni
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Posted: April 27 2017 at 13:02 |
Lots of Prog bands have been influenced by the Beatles!.... 
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SteveG
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Posted: April 27 2017 at 11:23 |
^And the Beatles! 
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Posted: April 27 2017 at 11:03 |
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^ Michael Jackson and Madonna fit that bill too.........
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Harmonicbliss
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Posted: April 27 2017 at 10:11 |
The problem is - what your definition of progressive is. I think that sometimes gets lost in peoples eyes. Sure by modern standards this doesn't define a prog rock album, but at the time- and it turned the world upside down and helped redefine what music and an album could be. Any album that helps redefine the course of music or art and is against the prototypical stereotypes of the time and inspires others to exceed its greatness as much as this has - should at least get a nod as being progressive.
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Posted: April 26 2017 at 13:12 |
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Posted: April 26 2017 at 13:07 |
 Catcher10 wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Art rock or maybe proto prog but not prog in the usual sense. The first official prog album has a red face on the cover. :D |
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I thought it was this one, but that does make more sense.  I don't think that Sgt. Pepper is Prog, but it was influential to Prog. There's other music of that time that sounds more progressive rock to me.
Edited by Logan - April 26 2017 at 13:11
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Catcher10
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Posted: April 26 2017 at 11:51 |
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Art rock or maybe proto prog but not prog in the usual sense. The first official prog album has a red face on the cover. :D |
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Posted: April 26 2017 at 11:38 |
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Art rock or maybe proto prog but not prog in the usual sense. The first official prog album has a red face on the cover. :D
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Posted: April 26 2017 at 11:15 |
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
Catcher10 wrote:
Come on Ivan, the album has been out since 1967...more than enough time to pick a side. |
In the last 10 years I saw the definition of Prog change so much, that I don't know anymore.
10 years ago I would had said NO, but today....... |
I agree with you and will finish your thought
"10 years ago I would had said NO, but today....." EVERYTHING IS CONSIDERED PROG!! Horrible......
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Magnum Vaeltaja
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Posted: April 26 2017 at 09:08 |
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Within You, Without You and A Day In The Life are just poppy tunes, but When I'm Sixty-Four is where they showed their bona fide prog credentials.
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lostrom
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Posted: April 26 2017 at 05:57 |
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It is progressive but isn't the genre progressive rock.
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Posted: April 26 2017 at 05:12 |
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Where is the Mellotron ??
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On Strawberry Fields Forever, which was going to be on the album originally until it was stolen for a single.
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uduwudu
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Posted: April 26 2017 at 05:06 |
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Well The did come up with the idea for a surrogate band. But did the fans understand? It's psychedelic pop rock, it is a kind of concept album as well. The concept is loosely this bunch of colourful songs book ended by the Pepper themes. Until the grim and brilliant A Day In The Life turns up showing the world for what it is rather than what people would like it to be.
A vital link in the chain obviously. Music development is a process not a cut and dried start and finish and Pepper's is part of that in moving pop into rock.
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Posted: April 26 2017 at 04:13 |
Baroque pop with a couple of psychedelic influences thrown into the mix. Prog? Nahh but it fertilised the ground for such a weed to flourish.
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SteveG
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Posted: April 26 2017 at 03:59 |
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No, it is psychedelic rock and would be the British blueprint for the that genre until psych rock fizzled out in 1969. As other's have said, it did plant the seeds for progressive rock along with other albums such as Days Of Future Passed by the Moody Blues released in the same year. PA lists the album as Proto Prog, what ever the hell that means.
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: April 26 2017 at 02:32 |
Emerlist Davjack wrote:
The reason it sounds prog-y is because it influenced so much of the nascent proto-progressive scene. Is Sgt. Pepper prog proper? No, but the stylistic choices made on the record became standards in early prog production, like the use of the mellotron, the influence of world music, unusual song structures, etc. |
Where is the Mellotron ?? I don't consider it Prog per-se, but it is experimental and boundary-pushing......  I have it, but I only spin it once in a blue moon....or even less (maybe coz my vinyl is far from mint.....).
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: April 26 2017 at 01:58 |
Catcher10 wrote:
Come on Ivan, the album has been out since 1967...more than enough time to pick a side. |
In the last 10 years I saw the definition of Prog change so much, that I don't know anymore. 10 years ago I would had said NO, but today.......
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