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Manuelmoreno 
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 Posted: July 21 2009 at 15:08 |
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Camel
Dream Theater: The ones that I like are the covers from a Change of Seasons!
As for Camel: For mere curiosity I bring home "I can see your house from here" years ago. I tried it two or three times... and no, really I can't stand it. Anyone wants this CD? is practically new! I may be wrong but I can't even understand why this is labeled as prog.
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The Sleepwalker
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Joined: February 03 2009
Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: July 21 2009 at 14:57 |
 hirszu wrote:
People, help me get into Van der Graaf... I listened to Pawn Hearts and it's just average. The songs sound like they were made by force, just to make a long progressive track. |
Pawn Hearts is VDGG's most extraordinary album (and my personal favorite of them). But if you want to get into the band, you could try Godbluff, which is more straight forward than Pawn Hearts but still very VDGG-ish. You could also check out part of H to He, Who Am The Only One. Songs like Lost and House With No Door are pretty accesible for VDGG songs. On the other hand, if you know you'll never be able to understand Pawn Hearts' music, VDGG probably is not the right band for you. Or maybe it just requires more listens, I really disliked A Plague Of... in the beginning, but now I think it's one of the greatest tracks ever made.
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hirszu
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Joined: April 03 2009
Location: Warsaw, Poland
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Posted: July 21 2009 at 14:45 |
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People, help me get into Van der Graaf... I listened to Pawn Hearts and it's just average. The songs sound like they were made by force, just to make a long progressive track.
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BLITZKRIEG
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Joined: June 16 2009
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Posted: July 21 2009 at 14:11 |
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yeah.
moving on...
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Snow Dog
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Posted: July 21 2009 at 13:17 |
Blip wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Blip wrote:
Rush.
I think they are overrated prog artists. and Geddy Lee's vocals annoys me.
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I can understand how his singing annoys you.
What annoys me is people who use capital letters for their username.
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I'm glad it annoys you.
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I'm glad that you are glad, if that is what pleases you.
Edited by Snow Dog - July 21 2009 at 14:19
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g0rd0nb0mbay
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Joined: July 21 2009
Location: London,England
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Posted: July 21 2009 at 13:17 |
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Mastodon & Rush. Although i may try both again soon as im being quite open minded recently.
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enemyofthesundevils
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Joined: May 20 2009
Location: San Antonio
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Posted: July 21 2009 at 13:15 |
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Tool. They are a good,smart band but I just don't see it. By mainstream standards they are very intricate and progressive but by prog rock standards I think they are pretty tame and uneventful. I'm not saying they are not progressive i just think that prog standards are much higher and they are average when compared to a lot of the other bands on the site. Maynard has a nice voice but not mind blowing like many people make it out to be.
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Moogtron III
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Joined: April 26 2005
Location: Belgium
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Posted: July 21 2009 at 02:44 |
Eastvillage wrote:
Moogtron III wrote:
I think Rush isn't overrated, but just an acquired taste.
I'm not a Rush fan, so I think I'm quite objective in this. Even though I like some of their stuff on Moving Pictures, I never got into Rush like I got into most of the other well known prog bands. Still, I get the impression that the Rush members are skilled musicians, they have quite some originality as well, in the lyrics as well as in the music, and they got popular on their own terms, so it seems to me.
Maybe people don't like the voice of Geddy Lee, or the overpowering drum sound of Neil Peart, or some of the heavy sci-fi inspired lyrics, but all that seems to be a matter of taste to me, and I think they definitely deserve a lot of credit for their work. They made a career out of their music, while all the time they were doing their own thing, instead of adapt themselves to the tastes of the masses.
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Aquired taste? You mean for us prog people only? Elsewhere I thought Rush was one of the "easier" and more commercial prog bands |
When I say acquired taste I don't mean for prog people only. Just that quite some people don't seem to like them, because they do have a specific sound, even when they're not of the most complex bands.
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Eastvillage
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Joined: August 10 2008
Location: Sweden Västerås
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Posted: July 21 2009 at 02:19 |
Moogtron III wrote:
I think Rush isn't overrated, but just an acquired taste.
I'm not a Rush fan, so I think I'm quite objective in this. Even though I like some of their stuff on Moving Pictures, I never got into Rush like I got into most of the other well known prog bands. Still, I get the impression that the Rush members are skilled musicians, they have quite some originality as well, in the lyrics as well as in the music, and they got popular on their own terms, so it seems to me.
Maybe people don't like the voice of Geddy Lee, or the overpowering drum sound of Neil Peart, or some of the heavy sci-fi inspired lyrics, but all that seems to be a matter of taste to me, and I think they definitely deserve a lot of credit for their work. They made a career out of their music, while all the time they were doing their own thing, instead of adapt themselves to the tastes of the masses.
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Aquired taste? You mean for us prog people only? Elsewhere I thought Rush was one of the "easier" and more commercial prog bands
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Moogtron III
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Joined: April 26 2005
Location: Belgium
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Posted: July 21 2009 at 02:01 |
I think Rush isn't overrated, but just an acquired taste.
I'm not a Rush fan, so I think I'm quite objective in this. Even though I like some of their stuff on Moving Pictures, I never got into Rush like I got into most of the other well known prog bands. Still, I get the impression that the Rush members are skilled musicians, they have quite some originality as well, in the lyrics as well as in the music, and they got popular on their own terms, so it seems to me.
Maybe people don't like the voice of Geddy Lee, or the overpowering drum sound of Neil Peart, or some of the heavy sci-fi inspired lyrics, but all that seems to be a matter of taste to me, and I think they definitely deserve a lot of credit for their work. They made a career out of their music, while all the time they were doing their own thing, instead of adapt themselves to the tastes of the masses.
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Eastvillage
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Location: Sweden Västerås
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Posted: July 21 2009 at 01:52 |
To be honest, I can have a hard time to get into most of the prog bands... When you do, the reward is great, but if the music lacks something it's the abillity to grip you right from the start. For example I used to hate King Crimson, then I listened some more, and it strangely didn't sound that bad any longer, then I listened some more, and they are now my favourite band.
Gentle giant is another one, at first it was just annoying, but then the genius and the meaning of the music appeared, or something like that....
For now I can't understand the hype about Genesis. I like some songs, and I hear that they are fantastic musicans and put it all together. But when listening to an album in a row, I easily get tired and finds the music plain boring, and Peter Gabriels voice ridiculus and childlish somehow...
But I hear that the music is very good in the end, so I am trying to listen to it and get it sometimes.
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BLITZKRIEG
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Joined: June 16 2009
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Posted: July 20 2009 at 23:13 |
Snow Dog wrote:
BLITZKRIEG wrote:
Rush.
I think they are overrated prog artists. and Geddy Lee's vocals annoys me.
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I can understand how his singing annoys you.
What annoys me is people who use capital letters for their username.
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I'm glad it annoys you.
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Snow Dog
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Joined: March 23 2005
Location: Caerdydd
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Posted: July 20 2009 at 18:31 |
BLITZKRIEG wrote:
Rush.
I think they are overrated prog artists. and Geddy Lee's vocals annoys me.
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I can understand how his singing annoys you.
What annoys me is people who use capital letters for their username.
Edited by Snow Dog - July 20 2009 at 18:31
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brainerd
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Posted: July 20 2009 at 18:17 |
I agree with everyone who's said Dream Theater and Rush... And I can't really hack the entire 'Neo-Pro' genre either, too cheesy for my tastes.
As for bands that are only really popular within their field, I've never got Mono or Sleepytime Gorilla Museum. All the elements are in place for me to like them but they never 'click' with me. The former are stunningly generic Post-Rock and the latter can be too cloyingly 'wacky' for me.
Also Pink Floyd. I've tried so hard with that band but with so little reward
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BLITZKRIEG
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Posted: July 20 2009 at 16:22 |
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Rush.
I think they are overrated prog artists. and Geddy Lee's vocals annoys me.
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Fieldofsorrow
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Joined: December 27 2008
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Points: 220
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Posted: July 20 2009 at 15:48 |
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Mastodon are proving quite a challenge; I fail to see the appeal after many attempts to get into 'Crack The Skye'. Maybe I'm starting in the wrong place... And there are few old school prog bands which I still don't understand, but I feel far too inexperienced to criticise, so I won't try!
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Groovy teenage rock with mild prog tendencies: http://www.myspace.com/omniabsenceband
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Plankowner
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Posted: July 20 2009 at 02:21 |
I have yet to appreciate Marillion's "Misplaced Childhood" .. I've owned the album since August of last year and I haven't found a mood or a moment where I've enjoyed any part of it.
Sometimes, I've found that it may be just a particular album that doesn't strike me and when this occurs I try a live album or DVD (especially if a band has a large discography) . So recently I bought "Marbles" (Live) and I haven't been able to enjoy it either.
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Moogtron III
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Joined: April 26 2005
Location: Belgium
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Posted: July 20 2009 at 01:43 |
For me "The Lamb" is a very balanced album. I like all four sides of it, and I have no feeling that there are fillers anywhere. I really can't pick a favourite side.
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MovingPictures07
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Posted: July 19 2009 at 22:24 |
BaldFriede wrote:
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I think anyone who isn't a Genesis fanboy would agree with you! You can more or less discard sides 3 & 4 as total filler!  |
On the contrary; side 3 and 4 are the best of "The Lamb"! Much better than side 1 and 2. And yes, that includes "Waiting Room", one of the best Genesis tracks ever!
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"Waiting Room" is the best Genesis track ever, IMO.
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Neurotarkus
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Joined: April 18 2009
Location: Negativland
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Posted: July 19 2009 at 21:57 |
BaldFriede wrote:
Progger wrote:
I think anyone who isn't a Genesis fanboy would agree with you! You can more or less discard sides 3 & 4 as total filler! |
On the contrary; side 3 and 4 are the best of "The Lamb"! Much better than side 1 and 2. And yes, that includes "Waiting Room", one of the best Genesis tracks ever!
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I disagree, I think Side 1-2 are the best, but then again I usually start form the beginning when listening to albums, so I never get to Side 3+4, but really that's no defense.
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