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Cboi Sandlin
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Posted: October 28 2022 at 18:27 | |
Hot take: Roger Waters is right.
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geekfreak
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Posted: October 20 2022 at 23:10 | |
His meaningless words are the rankings of his needs for attention. His just like the U2 guy full of drivel most of the time. |
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: October 20 2022 at 22:35 | |
His opinions are meaningless drivel to me. So I guess we're even.
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Atavachron
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Posted: October 20 2022 at 21:54 | |
One does get the sense they could've kept doing some good things musically, but frankly I suspect they had ten or twelve good years in them which is just about right for a band that epic & legendary. |
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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Easy Money
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Posted: October 20 2022 at 20:49 | |
^ Not a great album for sure, I just prefer their earlier experimental music.
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Atavachron
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Posted: October 20 2022 at 20:00 | |
I suppose 'ruined' depends on what one thinks ruined Floyd. It's true Waters probably caused the most tension, but I would also say AMLoR is among their more predictable and tedious releases. |
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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Easy Money
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Posted: October 20 2022 at 19:37 | |
^ Who really ruined Pink Floyd, A lot of people prefer the stadium rock version of the band, so I guess some see it at as an improvement.
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Atavachron
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Posted: October 20 2022 at 19:27 | |
Couldn't the same be said of Dave minus the politics? |
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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Easy Money
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Posted: October 20 2022 at 19:10 | |
political know it all. Edited by Easy Money - October 20 2022 at 19:16 |
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Guy Guden
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Posted: October 20 2022 at 17:10 | |
Roger Waters was very hospitable to this nutty disc jockey, wearing the red bootleg Pink Floyd t-shirt I had bought from CREEM magazine. he invited me into his dressing room for a chat, offered me a glass of the very nice white wine he was drinking, and we talked about Syd. 1975, the Los Angeles Sports Arena, with Los Angeles Police in the parking lot confronting students, unknown to us at the time... very pleasant as was time spent with Nick Mason & Richard Wright. only David was mannered with a polite introduction, then off & away from his mates. Roger was later also very sociable & kind during the RADIO KAOS show at the Forum in Inglewood, where he posed for a dozen photos which I have never seen. I've attended many other of his solo shows since, but felt it was unnecessary to do the after-concert schmooze after having such good initial meetings.
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JD
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Posted: October 20 2022 at 16:52 | |
^I'm still processing it. You can't rush to judgement with such profound insight. |
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NotAProghead
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Posted: October 20 2022 at 16:47 | |
^ Your opinion is very important to Roger.
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: October 20 2022 at 15:40 | |
F*ck Roger Waters.
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Sean Trane
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Posted: October 01 2022 at 03:33 | |
Wouldn't count Waters as a "great musician" (I mean he's not even close to being a virtuoso in any instrument), but a man of many ideas (as all Floyd members were). And I'm quite sure, that outside his political opinions and his feud with Gilmour, he's a very decent dude - far away from being an "awful HB". That's why the "spitting incident" in Montreal shocked him so bad, that he wrote The Wall. Apparently Waters is a really nice employer, knowing the names and surnames and family situation of everyone of his crew and always finding time for a few minutes for a chat. He even goes out of his way to say hello to someone some 20/30 meters away from him. How many of us can say that? But yeah, as I stated a couple of post above, he's either very naïve or has a disproportionate sense of self-grandeur (or self importance) in this matter, sending letters to belligerents with atomic weapons. But then again, someone once said (Einstein, probably?) that the world was not going to detroyed by vilains, but by those who watch them do it and did nothing to stop it. .
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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Mascodagama
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Posted: September 30 2022 at 04:01 | |
Happily I am spared the issue of whether to stop listening Roger Waters' music on the basis of his opinions, as I was already not listening to it due to it boring the piss out of me. Edited by Mascodagama - September 30 2022 at 04:02 |
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Davesax1965
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Posted: September 30 2022 at 02:59 | |
Alas, Roger has revealed himself (yet again) to be a Grade A1 Fruit Cake.
If anyone's taken the trouble to read the letter he sent to Elena Zelenskaya, it comes across that he is some kind of nutcase. (I'm reminded of David Icke, to be honest.) It's always difficult to separate the musician from the music - and I'm reminded of Ginger Baker and Eric Clapton as examples of awful human beings but great musicians - but there comes a time when you have to boycott someone's music and I think Roger Waters has crossed that line for me. |
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Sean Trane
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Posted: September 30 2022 at 02:37 | |
If you could be restectful, please... Don't necessarily appreciate the US (and even less the current Russia, FTM), but al least the US allows people (foreigner in Roger's case) not agreeing with its politics to remain on their territory. You might want to say the same for Russia, but that goes with a jail sentence. Are you sure Rog The Rogue lives in the US, though? .
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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octopus-4
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Posted: September 29 2022 at 23:17 | |
comparing crap with sh*t?
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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dr wu23
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Posted: September 28 2022 at 12:15 | |
He is already persona non grata with his neighbors who he is feuding with for several years now after he built a 14,000 sq ft house and took control of a contested road in Bridgehampton Long Island. Apparently he likes to alienate people.
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aprusso
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Posted: September 28 2022 at 12:14 | |
Really? again with this bullsh*t... He's an antifascist and he speaks it loud, more so, makes great music to say it, since 45 years at least. In a world full of rising fascism, that's a blessing.
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