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Adams Bolero
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Posted: November 08 2011 at 13:19 | ||
Ian said that before playing Thick As A Brick when I saw Jethro Tull in March. But he said they were also up their own arse and that ''it was actually quite nice up there!''
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Posted: November 08 2011 at 13:16 | ||
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Snow Dog
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Posted: November 08 2011 at 12:29 | ||
I reckon there are some members of this site that agree with what he says and are not joking
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Posted: November 08 2011 at 12:28 | ||
Oh yeah? Well, I don't fancy cats.
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cstack3
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Posted: November 08 2011 at 12:07 | ||
These cats all know one another, most of 'em are gentlemen farmers in Devon, UK near Exeter. Ian's acoustic guitars are made by Brit luthier Andy Manson, and Martin Barre's electrics by Andy's brother Hugh Manson. Hugh also builds the basses for John Paul Jones, is the guitar tech for Steve Howe, etc. I think his wisecracks were as much towards those guys as anybody! Lighten up, folks. |
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bucka001
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Posted: November 08 2011 at 12:04 | ||
To be fair, he's not really dissing all of prog (and he is just having a laugh), but I feel he doesn't have any enthusiasm for Yes, Genesis, and ELP... and fair enough.
But it doesn't mean he's anti-prog in general as he did guest-edit an issue of Classic Rock Presents Prog.
I know of a lot of famous musicians who dislike Genesis, Yes, and ELP, but are on the record as being major fans of the darker prog bands with more bite, such as King Crimson and VdGG (i.e. the bands it's "cool" to like)
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bucka001
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Posted: November 08 2011 at 12:01 | ||
See my post above (below...ha ha!) and, if you get a chance, let me know what your vibe is about his quote in Classic Rock, which I give below:
Yeah, he is (as I mentioned) probably just larking about, but he's trying to have his cake and eat it too. He's taken potshots at prog bands before and, even though it's a bit tongue in cheek, one gets the feeling he kind of feels that way. But, it's like, "hey, since I'm being sort of jokey about it, you can't really get mad at me; I'm not totally serious here..."
A few issues ago, in Classic Rock Presents Prog, he stated, "Prog became a bit of a joke, really. Perhaps the archetpal prog rock bands were the spaghetti noodlers like Yes and ELP, who could take a good idea and make it last for days! Some of it was silly, when you think about Peter Gabriel dressed a giant sunflower. It was ridiculous."
I don't even totally disagree with him. I just think it's rich coming from him. A dude in tights, with one leg elevated and foot upon knee, and playing the flute ain't exactly a whole lot more badass than a guy in a sunflower mask... |
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cstack3
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Posted: November 08 2011 at 11:58 | ||
EXACTLY! For Christ's sake, he's being interviewed in front of a huge "Prog Rocks" sign by prog critics (who were, by the way, fawning all over Yes and ELP whilst slamming "Passion Play."). He's just having some fun at the expense of the audience, totally in character!! I would have been surprised if he said anything different! Maybe IA should square off against Rick Wakeman's "Grumpy Old Rick" TV routine? It would be rather hilarious!
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lazland
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Posted: November 08 2011 at 11:51 | ||
Indeed - that is Anderson all over. indeed, any self respecting JT fan would know all of this either from history, or by actually listening to many of the witty, self deprecating lyrics he sang.
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Saperlipopette!
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Posted: November 08 2011 at 11:48 | ||
I know but That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore. Neither is Ian. |
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Mellotron Storm
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Posted: November 08 2011 at 11:36 | ||
Well considering Jethro Tull recently headlined the High Voltage festivals Prog stage i'd like to think he was joking.
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bucka001
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Posted: November 08 2011 at 11:33 | ||
Yeah, he is (as I mentioned) probably just larking about, but he's trying to have his cake and eat it too. He's taken potshots at prog bands before and, even though it's a bit tongue in cheek, one gets the feeling he kind of feels that way. But, it's like, "hey, since I'm being sort of jokey about it, you can't really get mad at me; I'm not totally serious here..."
A few issues ago, in Classic Rock Presents Prog, he stated, "Prog became a bit of a joke, really. Perhaps the archetpal prog rock bands were the spaghetti noodlers like Yes and ELP, who could take a good idea and make it last for days! Some of it was silly, when you think about Peter Gabriel dressed a giant sunflower. It was ridiculous."
I don't even totally disagree with him. I just think it's rich coming from him. A dude in tights, with one leg elevated and foot upon knee, and playing the flute ain't exactly a whole lot more badass than a guy in a sunflower mask...
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Posted: November 08 2011 at 11:26 | ||
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DisgruntledPorcupine
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Posted: November 08 2011 at 11:17 | ||
Yeah, seriously. Do any of you people have any concept of a joke? He like tried to make it obvious as possible he was joking, too.
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Chris S
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Posted: November 08 2011 at 10:56 | ||
Please guys.....Ian Anderson is just having a laugh. Get a SOH
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Atoms
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Posted: November 08 2011 at 10:53 | ||
That is only the second half. If you have spotift, I'd suggest that you listen to this: Jethro Tull – Interview With Jethro Tull Listen to as much as you get the time to, they get back to the topic regarding the concept album once in a while.
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Saperlipopette!
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Posted: November 08 2011 at 10:46 | ||
What an a****le. I'm not gonna hold the idiot he's become against the witty, talented guy he used to be.
Saw Jethro Tull a couple of years ago, and it was the lamest, most uninspired concert I've been to in ages. Ian's lost his voice, his good taste (+ hair). The sh*tty Enya synths, metal drums and hair metal guitar managed to ruin every single classic he ever wrote. The flute was ok. He's also ten years late dissing pretentious proggers. |
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bucka001
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Posted: November 08 2011 at 10:35 | ||
Well, I haven't seen the video interview in a couple of days (the link at the beginning of this thread) but I thought he called TAAB a spoof and made it sound like that album was taking the piss out of groups like Genesis, Yes, GG, and ELP.
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Atoms
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Posted: November 08 2011 at 10:30 | ||
Actually, the reason why he made TAAB into a concept album was because people kept on calling Aqualung a concept album, even though he denied it. So he decided to create a concept album. When he mentions that TAAB was a "spoof" album, I think he was refering to the way the song was written and not how the story evolves.
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Failcore
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Posted: November 08 2011 at 10:29 | ||
Anyone who plays a flute and dresses in tights is prog, sorry Ian.
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