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Slaughternalia 
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 Posted: May 15 2011 at 23:09 |
I think the reason for prog not being loved by most people is fairly obvious, it's a nerd's genre! Who else would listen to 40 minute songs about wizards and kings? Others are enjoying their Linkin Park and Lady Gaga, but only we realize that music is only as brilliant as it is pretentious and excessive 
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Mosis
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Posted: May 15 2011 at 23:08 |
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probably because of arrogant, condescending fans like the op
prog music is just music. it doesn't make you smarter for liking it, nor does liking pop make you dumber. many of the bands on this site are cheesy, silly, contrived, or just plain boring. go listen to some lady gaga and get over yourselves.
not to mention there's more to music than just "prog" or not (whatever that means. many bands on here are not progressive in any sense of the word). go to an electronic music festival to see what can really be done with sound.
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Alitare
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Posted: May 15 2011 at 23:00 |
 The Truth wrote:
Maybe it was better then, but I'm very content with what the old bands gave us and what the new bands are giving. |
Why have radio when you got the internet? You can listen to whatever you want whenever you want.
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The Truth
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Posted: May 15 2011 at 22:46 |
Maybe it was better then, but I'm very content with what the old bands gave us and what the new bands are giving.
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: May 15 2011 at 22:43 |
The Truth wrote:
The Dark Elf wrote:
The Truth wrote:
Dang, Henners went to work on this thread.
Also, I have seen this done before. Do we really want everyone to love prog? Wouldn't that take away our individuality? I know I wouldn't want that. |
Doesn't matter, really. Whole droves of folk loved prog in the 70s before donning leisure suits and wide collar floral polyester shirts and going off to the disco, which was right before they got mohawks, pierced their lips with safety pins and snarled like Johnny Rotten. I know dozens of people who actually followed each and every musical fad like they would change their underwear, which was usually daily. Stick with what you like. It doesn't matter who follows.
I am reminded of the words of the great philosopher, Frank Vincent Zappa, who once said:
Do you know what you are?
You are what you is
You is what you am
(A cow don't make ham...)
You ain't what you're not
So see what you got
You are what you is
An' that's all it 'tis |
I still wouldn't want to be part of the mainstream music crowd. That would take a bunch of me from me. |
Once upon a time, prog was relatively mainstream. It was delightful growing up in the 70s, partly because the drugs were better...ummm....but that's not my point. In Detroit, for instance, we had three album-oriented-rock radio stations playing whole albums and album sides, and I even recall one, WWWW, going quadrophonic and playing the quad version of Aqualung in its entirety (my friend had a Marantz quad stereo, which was very cool back then). They used to play Rush and Deep Purple on AM STATIONS! It was a remarkable time to be just getting into music. Sadly, there isn't really anything to equate to it now. Maybe the air was different back then or something.
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Alitare
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Posted: May 15 2011 at 22:32 |
The Dark Elf wrote:
The Truth wrote:
Dang, Henners went to work on this thread.
Also, I have seen this done before. Do we really want everyone to love prog? Wouldn't that take away our individuality? I know I wouldn't want that. |
Doesn't matter, really. Whole droves of folk loved prog in the 70s before donning leisure suits and wide collar floral polyester shirts and going off to the disco, which was right before they got mohawks, pierced their lips with safety pins and snarled like Johnny Rotten. I know dozens of people who actually followed each and every musical fad like they would change their underwear, which was usually daily. Stick with what you like. It doesn't matter who follows.
I am reminded of the words of the great philosopher, Frank Vincent Zappa, who once said:
Do you know what you are?
You are what you is
You is what you am
(A cow don't make ham...)
You ain't what you're not
So see what you got
You are what you is
An' that's all it 'tis |
I should listen to more Zappa.
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The Truth
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Posted: May 15 2011 at 22:31 |
The Dark Elf wrote:
The Truth wrote:
Dang, Henners went to work on this thread.
Also, I have seen this done before. Do we really want everyone to love prog? Wouldn't that take away our individuality? I know I wouldn't want that. |
Doesn't matter, really. Whole droves of folk loved prog in the 70s before donning leisure suits and wide collar floral polyester shirts and going off to the disco, which was right before they got mohawks, pierced their lips with safety pins and snarled like Johnny Rotten. I know dozens of people who actually followed each and every musical fad like they would change their underwear, which was usually daily. Stick with what you like. It doesn't matter who follows.
I am reminded of the words of the great philosopher, Frank Vincent Zappa, who once said:
Do you know what you are?
You are what you is
You is what you am
(A cow don't make ham...)
You ain't what you're not
So see what you got
You are what you is
An' that's all it 'tis |
I still wouldn't want to be part of the mainstream music crowd. That would take a bunch of me from me.
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dr prog
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Posted: May 15 2011 at 22:24 |
If prog was on the radio, everyone would like it 
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: May 15 2011 at 22:19 |
The Truth wrote:
Dang, Henners went to work on this thread.
Also, I have seen this done before. Do we really want everyone to love prog? Wouldn't that take away our individuality? I know I wouldn't want that. |
Doesn't matter, really. Whole droves of folk loved prog in the 70s before donning leisure suits and wide collar floral polyester shirts and going off to the disco, which was right before they got mohawks, pierced their lips with safety pins and snarled like Johnny Rotten. I know dozens of people who actually followed each and every musical fad like they would change their underwear, which was usually daily. Stick with what you like. It doesn't matter who follows.
I am reminded of the words of the great philosopher, Frank Vincent Zappa, who once said:
Do you know what you are?
You are what you is
You is what you am
(A cow don't make ham...)
You ain't what you're not
So see what you got
You are what you is
An' that's all it 'tis
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MoodyRush
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Posted: May 15 2011 at 22:19 |
harmonium.ro wrote:
It kinda sucks. |
This! 
In seriousness, prog is long-winded, not easily digestible, and perhaps the most poignant point, everyone has different taste! otherwise everyone would like the same stuff. And though it is fun to be unique in liking prog, I sure would like to find SOMEBODY who lives near me who likes prog... 
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The Truth
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Posted: May 15 2011 at 21:46 |
Dang, Henners went to work on this thread.
Also, I have seen this done before. Do we really want everyone to love prog? Wouldn't that take away our individuality? I know I wouldn't want that.
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Posted: May 15 2011 at 21:30 |
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I can get my cooks moving to "Spirit of the radio", faintly humming along to "I know what I like", but 3 minutes into "Roundabout" they're losing track of orders. The it's back to Lady Gaga Musicworld...
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"Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible" FZ
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: May 15 2011 at 21:08 |
Eärendil wrote:
I had someone once say that "it feels like something is missing." By that, I assume, he means how the structure feels different without loads of hooks and such. |
As the Emperor Joseph II once told Mozart: "Your work is ingenious. It's quality work. And there are simply too many
notes, that's all. Just cut a few and it will be perfect." 
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Posted: May 15 2011 at 21:07 |
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Pop doesn't suck, unless it gets stuck... Pop that progresses is great! (I am thinking of groups such as Asia and Elton John)
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Earendil
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Posted: May 15 2011 at 20:50 |
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I had someone once say that "it feels like something is missing." By that, I assume, he means how the structure feels different without loads of hooks and such.
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: May 15 2011 at 20:49 |
tarkus1980 wrote:
While I generally don't care for the "prog is great, pop sucks" mentality, I'll bite. Most people who claim to like music don't actually like to listen to music. They like music that functions as light background while they socialize or work or run. It's just one of those things. |
I'm not sure about most, but I can certainly agree with this for many. The problem is when people think there's something wrong with this and the music they listen to. "Serious music fans" like pop music too.
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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Harry Hood
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Posted: May 15 2011 at 20:49 |
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Prog covers such a wide array of sounds and styles, I think for many people it's simply a matter of introducing them to the right bands with the right context. This isn't easy and sometimes might take multiple failed attempts, but I think at it's core this genre has something for everyone.
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tarkus1980
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Posted: May 15 2011 at 20:46 |
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While I generally don't care for the "prog is great, pop sucks" mentality, I'll bite. Most people who claim to like music don't actually like to listen to music. They like music that functions as light background while they socialize or work or run. It's just one of those things.
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"History of Rock Written by the Losers."
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Alitare
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Posted: May 15 2011 at 20:36 |
My feelings reside with Henry's here. Why do people think prog is superior to pop? What mystically baffling deity beamed down to our muddy waterball and deemed to all creation that progressive rock was holy and benign and pop music was an inferior, soulless corporate husk devoid of all use; and that anyone preferring the latter to the former is a sickening, mentally defective reprobate deserving of castigation and ridicule?
You aren't right or wrong in thinking the way you do. But what you do believe betrays a severe lack of comprehension regarding psychology, sociology, blahblahblah, etc. etc.
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Posted: May 15 2011 at 20:25 |
Epignosis wrote:
My only consolation...colorful ponies.
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