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dr wu23 
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 Posted: September 23 2013 at 23:34 |
 WeepingElf wrote:
dr wu23 wrote:
Never really cared that much for DT but I'm listening to Metropolis2 Scenes From A Memory and....heh....it's not bad.
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It is IMHO their best album.
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That's what many DT fans seem to think. I'm going to listen again to Images and Words which also gets high praise. Who knows, maybe I'll actually become a fan?
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Posted: September 23 2013 at 19:22 |
I'm seeing more and more of that.
I'm certain there will always be a certain "changing of the guard" on several levels. (the new Haken is amazing, and how many Yes fans that were actually there when Fragile broke are still singing the praises of Fly From Here...so it goes both ways)
I pride myself on *trying* to keep up...but I haven't made any groundbreaking new discoveries since PoS, Porcupine Tree, and Riverside first starting making waves over a decade ago. I seek to remedy that....Haken seems like a great new place to start.
But I still love my DT. Moving forward doesn't always been crapping on your heroes.
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Posted: September 23 2013 at 18:49 |
jammindude wrote:
Hey guys. It's been a long time since I've posted...but I was thinking of hanging out here a bit more often because, let's face it, the DT and MP forums are wonderful, and I love everyone there....but I want to start getting my prog scuttlebutt from a wider ranger of resources. But as long as I'm here anyway...I may as well post my review for the new Dream Theater album. |
Great, just be aware that not everyone here loves DT (some even rather hate them), so you may find opinions you won't like. I myself love this band and... well, I'm not sure what to expect of the same album, though I'm certainly waiting for it, but even if it were a dissapointment, the band has already released so much to enjoy that I wouldn't care... so much.
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jammindude
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Posted: September 23 2013 at 16:21 |
Hey guys. It's been a long time since I've posted...but I was thinking of hanging out here a bit more often because, let's face it, the DT and MP forums are wonderful, and I love everyone there....but I want to start getting my prog scuttlebutt from a wider ranger of resources.
But as long as I'm here anyway...I may as well post my review for the new Dream Theater album.
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WeepingElf
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Posted: September 23 2013 at 15:45 |
dr wu23 wrote:
Never really cared that much for DT but I'm listening to Metropolis2 Scenes From A Memory and....heh....it's not bad.
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It is IMHO their best album.
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dr wu23
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Posted: September 22 2013 at 17:59 |
Never really cared that much for DT but I'm listening to Metropolis2 Scenes From A Memory and....heh....it's not bad.
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progbethyname
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Posted: September 22 2013 at 17:58 |
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I just wanna say one thing, and that is I think ALONG FOR THE RIDE is an absolutely beautiful song. What musicianship. It's fabulous. Come Wednesday I'm gonna be one happy progger. :)
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Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣
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rogerthat
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Posted: September 22 2013 at 10:30 |
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Well, it IS a major label release so while you or I may want intricacy in a record, maybe the label figures a lot of people want something loud first up to grab their attention.
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zumacraig
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Posted: September 22 2013 at 09:39 |
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Looking Glass is good. It does sound like sh*t though. The album wont be much better, me thinks. Who'd a thought making music unlistenable would be a marketing tack? Especially music that requires attentive listening and is quite intricate.
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rogerthat
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Posted: September 21 2013 at 23:07 |
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I really liked Looking Glass. But had to pull out of listening to all songs on the stream because it became too much of too loud for me at some point. There is some spark in Looking Glass at least but I would still like to hear more chords and keyboard-guitar interplay rather than solos following each other.
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Posted: September 18 2013 at 14:52 |
darkshade wrote:
I think the stream adds more compression, I guarantee the CD sounds 1000 times better. I remember the same thing happening with ADTOE when OTBOA was on youtube.
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Wow!! You guarantee it will sound 1000 times better....The 5 second rule applies here for you to recant your post, other wise we will hold you to it..... 1 mississippi.....2 mississippi.....
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Posted: September 18 2013 at 13:56 |
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I don't think Road Salt is a time when PoS "shined"
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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SharpenTheeTeeth
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Posted: September 18 2013 at 12:55 |
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And my god this is probably the worst sounding album i've ever heard production-wise. |
have you heard "Death Magnetic" or the new Black Sabbath record?
Tzeentchian wrote:
Some bands definitely have the ability to make long, interesting songs. I've always thought that the long DT songs are mostly just... long |
the funniest thing is that most of them are still SONGS, i.e. you just have a 5-min song stuffed with 10 mins of unneeded soloing. Meh I really think they should try something new, ANYTHING new. Look how PoS shines on "Road Salt", I wish DT would have been this innovative!
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Posted: September 18 2013 at 12:16 |
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I think the stream adds more compression, I guarantee the CD sounds 1000 times better. I remember the same thing happening with ADTOE when OTBOA was on youtube.
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zumacraig
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Posted: September 18 2013 at 11:43 |
Catcher10 wrote:
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Meh, the epic is the only high point for me, but even then it feels a bit disjointed. And my god this is probably the worst sounding album i've ever heard production-wise. Just a thick wall of sound. Disappointing, but still need to give it more listens I suppose. |
I have only heard Enemy Within song, which is a normal rock/metal song to me..I will wait till next week for the album release. But the thought of a bad production job, again....is annoying at a minimum. They need to spend some money on better mixing, production, sound engineer folks than what they are doing now. Lets hope it is compressed due to this web streaming release.... |
i don't think they have any control over the final product. i bet hearing them in the studio is unrecognizable when compared to the albums. unfortunately, metal and prog either don't care, are helpless or don't care about mixing and mastering. with technology the way it is, every album should sound like steely dan's aja. pristine and warm. DT deserves it.
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Posted: September 18 2013 at 09:40 |
Mr. Mustard wrote:
Meh, the epic is the only high point for me, but even then it feels a bit disjointed. And my god this is probably the worst sounding album i've ever heard production-wise. Just a thick wall of sound. Disappointing, but still need to give it more listens I suppose. |
I have only heard Enemy Within song, which is a normal rock/metal song to me..I will wait till next week for the album release. But the thought of a bad production job, again....is annoying at a minimum. They need to spend some money on better mixing, production, sound engineer folks than what they are doing now. Lets hope it is compressed due to this web streaming release....
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Posted: September 18 2013 at 01:38 |
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I don't know if this is what I expected from the band with this release however I will say that I do enjoy it - a lot. In many ways still the same but in many ways different as well if that makes any sense.
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progbethyname
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Posted: September 17 2013 at 20:32 |
darkshade wrote:
I listened to the stream once yesterday. It was definitely a different kind of album, with lots of lighter, proggy moments; and the epic at the end gave me chills down my spine, which usually doesn't happen the first time I hear an epic, even Octavarium didn't do much for me on first listen.I'm going to wait til this weekend and get my copy before I listen again, but I can't wait to get it.
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Yeah. I'm with you on this and I must say its nice to hear some positive enthusiasm about the record. I'm really looking forward to the epic as well. I think I will get a lot out of this record. Anyway, like you I'll be getting it next week and I'll run it through my own sound equipment and then judge to see the sound production is weak as some have said here already.
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zumacraig
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Posted: September 17 2013 at 19:32 |
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it is compressed as hell. would you expect anything else? too bad, as petrucci wanted that chocolate cake sound. at least it's not reverbed to hell and back. the drums are dry, which makes up for some of compression and you can hear myung here and there. i like the third song a lot.
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Mr. Mustard
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Posted: September 17 2013 at 19:11 |
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Meh, the epic is the only high point for me, but even then it feels a bit disjointed. And my god this is probably the worst sounding album i've ever heard production-wise. Just a thick wall of sound. Disappointing, but still need to give it more listens I suppose.
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