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micky
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Posted: April 17 2009 at 16:48 |
you DON"T? man... you are missing out..
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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Epignosis
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Joined: December 30 2007
Location: Raeford, NC
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Points: 32524
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Posted: April 17 2009 at 16:47 |
cacho wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Raff wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
micky wrote:
oh definitely... I adjust ratings .. up or down.. all the time as time goes on.. as the group does more work.. I get more familiar with an artist or what other collabs say might jog something for me or enlighten me. I know I've dropped DT .. raised Battiato.. dropped Ubi Maior.. will raise Decemberists' Crane Wife to 4 stars.
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I am tempted to give The Crane Wife 5 stars. The only thing holding me back is that about half of it isn't prog. But then again, neither is Minstrel in the Gallery, and I rated that 5 easy.......hmmm...
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In my very humble opinion, being prog or not should not be grounds from refraining from a 5-star rating. Many of my 5-star reviews are of prog-related albums. What I generally do is mention the 'prog quotient' of the album in the final paragraph, so that people won't mistake any of those albums for the second coming of Foxtrot or Close to the Edge .
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And see, that's why reviews are important. As a rule, I don't rate prog-related albums a 5, but there are a couple of rare exceptions.
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Zep's IV, yeah we know
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micky
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Posted: April 17 2009 at 16:43 |
hahah. .yeah.. I gave LZ IV 3 stars.. and was proud to.. in fact.. the only album I've reviewed that I gave 3 or 4 different ratings for hahhaha. For the site.. it got ..and deserved 3 stars.
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The Quiet One
Prog Reviewer
Joined: January 16 2008
Location: Argentina
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Points: 15745
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Posted: April 17 2009 at 16:40 |
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The Quiet One
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Joined: January 16 2008
Location: Argentina
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Points: 15745
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Posted: April 17 2009 at 16:39 |
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Epignosis
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Joined: December 30 2007
Location: Raeford, NC
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Posted: April 17 2009 at 16:37 |
Raff wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
micky wrote:
oh definitely... I adjust ratings .. up or down.. all the time as time goes on.. as the group does more work.. I get more familiar with an artist or what other collabs say might jog something for me or enlighten me. I know I've dropped DT .. raised Battiato.. dropped Ubi Maior.. will raise Decemberists' Crane Wife to 4 stars.
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I am tempted to give The Crane Wife 5 stars. The only thing holding me back is that about half of it isn't prog. But then again, neither is Minstrel in the Gallery, and I rated that 5 easy.......hmmm...
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In my very humble opinion, being prog or not should not be grounds from refraining from a 5-star rating. Many of my 5-star reviews are of prog-related albums. What I generally do is mention the 'prog quotient' of the album in the final paragraph, so that people won't mistake any of those albums for the second coming of Foxtrot or Close to the Edge .
| And see, that's why reviews are important. As a rule, I don't rate prog-related albums a 5, but there are a couple of rare exceptions.
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The Quiet One
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Joined: January 16 2008
Location: Argentina
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Points: 15745
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Posted: April 17 2009 at 16:37 |
I ignore reviews without ratings
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micky
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Posted: April 17 2009 at 16:37 |
cacho wrote:
^indeed, your SFaM review is a clear example of that
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but it is consistent.... I didn't like the album.. does this mean it is NOT a masterpiece (or near) of prog metal???
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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Epignosis
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Joined: December 30 2007
Location: Raeford, NC
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Posted: April 17 2009 at 16:36 |
micky wrote:
another reason why ratings are meaningless as far as the site.... they mean something different to each person..
| Nay, Micky, that's what makes them valuable!
I ignore ratings without reviews. But I read reviews before buying albums. So far, I've only been screwed a half dozen times or so.
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micky
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Posted: April 17 2009 at 16:36 |
and yes Rob... I gave The Crane Wife 5 personal stars.. but for the site...it will be 4 stars. there were songs I didn't think reflected a true 5 star prog album. Now the Hazards of Love is a different monster... I laugh at those that try to myspace it... it is a complete album song cycle.. you can't just listen to a portion of it.
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The Quiet One
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Joined: January 16 2008
Location: Argentina
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Points: 15745
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Posted: April 17 2009 at 16:35 |
^indeed, your SFaM review is a clear example of that
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micky
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Posted: April 17 2009 at 16:34 |
another reason why ratings are meaningless as far as the site.... they mean something different to each person..
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Raff
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Joined: July 29 2005
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Posted: April 17 2009 at 16:32 |
Epignosis wrote:
micky wrote:
oh definitely... I adjust ratings .. up or down.. all the time as time goes on.. as the group does more work.. I get more familiar with an artist or what other collabs say might jog something for me or enlighten me. I know I've dropped DT .. raised Battiato.. dropped Ubi Maior.. will raise Decemberists' Crane Wife to 4 stars.
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I am tempted to give The Crane Wife 5 stars. The only thing holding me back is that about half of it isn't prog. But then again, neither is Minstrel in the Gallery, and I rated that 5 easy.......hmmm...
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In my very humble opinion, being prog or not should not be grounds from refraining from a 5-star rating. Many of my 5-star reviews are of prog-related albums. What I generally do is mention the 'prog quotient' of the album in the final paragraph, so that people won't mistake any of those albums for the second coming of Foxtrot or Close to the Edge .
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micky
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Joined: October 02 2005
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Posted: April 17 2009 at 16:30 |
I did something rare.. very rare for me.. and that was review an album before I knew the group... I hedged and went 3 stars (for the site) when I first reviewed ... loved the album. but wasn't sure where it fit in with where they had been.. or of course where they were going with the the next album (HoL). Since I've reviewed it I've pretty much covered all they've done and feel better moving them up... saving the 5 star for HoL. I agree with that review I posted... best ..bar none.. concept album (rock opera) I've ever heard. Smokes the more celebrated entries like Tommy and the Wall. The music is better.. the story is MILES above those.
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Raff
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Joined: July 29 2005
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Points: 24429
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Posted: April 17 2009 at 16:29 |
Negoba wrote:
Do I have to be a collaborator before I can edit my reviews or have a prog biography?
A few of my early ones need some, er, redrafting. |
No, as a PR, you can edit your reviews to your heart's content!
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Epignosis
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Joined: December 30 2007
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Posted: April 17 2009 at 16:27 |
micky wrote:
oh definitely... I adjust ratings .. up or down.. all the time as time goes on.. as the group does more work.. I get more familiar with an artist or what other collabs say might jog something for me or enlighten me. I know I've dropped DT .. raised Battiato.. dropped Ubi Maior.. will raise Decemberists' Crane Wife to 4 stars.
| I am tempted to give The Crane Wife 5 stars. The only thing holding me back is that about half of it isn't prog. But then again, neither is Minstrel in the Gallery, and I rated that 5 easy.......hmmm...
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Logan
Forum & Site Admin Group
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Joined: April 05 2006
Location: Vancouver, BC
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Posted: April 17 2009 at 16:26 |
Epignosis wrote:
...A few sh*tty ratings by haters won't stop one powerful review from a collaborator.
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And one crappy rating by a collab can have a profound effect on the overall rating where there are a number of powerful reviews by non-collabs. Oh the potential power! At least if you abuse it, you're liable to lose it.
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micky
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Posted: April 17 2009 at 16:25 |
you should Jay.. be able to do all that AS a Prog Reviewer. If you need to know how.. just drop me a PM'er... pretty easy to do.
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Negoba
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Joined: July 24 2008
Location: Big Muddy
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Posted: April 17 2009 at 16:23 |
Do I have to be a collaborator before I can edit my reviews or have a prog biography?
A few of my early ones need some, er, redrafting.
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You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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micky
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Posted: April 17 2009 at 16:20 |
oh definitely... I adjust ratings .. up or down.. all the time as time goes on.. as the group does more work.. I get more familiar with an artist or what other collabs say might jog something for me or enlighten me. I know I've dropped DT .. raised Battiato.. dropped Ubi Maior.. will raise Decemberists' Crane Wife to 4 stars.
Edited by micky - April 17 2009 at 16:21
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