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Please tell me why this thread has been moved in non prog music, while Jazzrock is one of the main styles defined on progarchives.com??

Edited by Tony R - October 19 2006 at 14:24

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oliverstoned Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 26 2004 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 6308	Posted: October 19 2006 at 11:08
	Please tell me why this thread has been moved in non prog music, while Jazzrock is one of the main styles defined on progarchives.com?? Edited by Tony R - October 19 2006 at 14:24

andu Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: September 27 2006 Location: Romania Status: Offline Points: 3089	Posted: October 19 2006 at 10:27
	could anyone state & explain the difference between jazzrock and fusion? is there any? but please explain, don't just give examples.

andu Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: September 27 2006 Location: Romania Status: Offline Points: 3089	Posted: October 19 2006 at 08:59
	up till now i had the occasion the listen to weather report, brand x, return to forever and chick corea, a few mclaughlin, jonas helborg, some electronic steve tibbets, erskine&ponty... and now i know there's so much more to listen to. GREAT MUSIC!

DallasBryan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: November 23 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3323	Posted: October 19 2006 at 08:46
	any love here for Travelling, Nucleus, Aera, Missus Beastly, Secret Oyster, Herbie Hancock, Solution, Archimedes Badkar, Booker T & the MG's, Dixie Dregs, SBB, Axis, Maneige or Area?

Froth Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: November 19 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 461	Posted: October 19 2006 at 08:41
	As far as jazzrock goes as a hole, some of it i like, some of it i dont. Miles Davis was really good when he first went electric but by the mid 70s, he just went too funk. I love Soft Machine and The National Health (2 of my favourite bands) and 'Tenemos Roads' is in my mind the greatest peice of music ever written although i always concidered those two to have too many classical influences as to be classed as 'jazzrock'. Infact when soft machine did become a proper jazzrock band (1973-1984) is when i loose interest with them. Theres some weird jazz-rock stuff going on in England at the moment. 'acoustic ladyland' may well be one of the loudest jazzbands ever and Fullborn Taversham are simmilar but more avant-garde. But at the moment the best jazzrock band around has to be 'Machine and the synergetic nuts' from Japan. they are excellent

pero Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: July 11 2005 Location: Croatia Status: Offline Points: 1242	Posted: October 19 2006 at 08:09
	Jazz rock is one of my favorite genres. My favorites are: Weather report, Soft machine (3,4,5), Billy Cobham (Spectrum, Crosswinds), Mahavishnu orchestra, Passport, Brand X, Jaco Pastorius, Larry Coryell, National health, Jeff Beck, Zappa, Deodato, Miles Davis, John Mclauglin (Electric guitarist, Extrapolation), Brufford, Herbie Hancock (Headhunters, Man child), Return to forever (No mystery, Hymn of seventh galaxy, Where have I known you before),....... I didn't heard the bands that you mentioned but looking forward to discuss more in this tread Edited by pero - October 20 2006 at 02:54

oliverstoned Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 26 2004 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 6308	Posted: October 19 2006 at 07:54
	Yes, Ralph Towner is excellent, along with Larry Corryel, who sill does good things today.

Alucard Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 10 2004 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 3888	Posted: October 19 2006 at 07:44
	Thanx for the encouraging start Rush and Olivier There is still an interesting Jazz-Rock Fusion scene nowadays. Tonight I am going to see the Fench Band 'Forgas Band Phenomena' which plays an excellent 'Canterbury 'influenced Jazz-Rock. Interesting artists you mentionned Olivier, other good bands/musicians on the world Fusion side : 'Ralph Towner' (Oregon member), 'Shadwofax' , 'Montreux'.
	Tadpoles keep screaming in my ear "Hey there! Rotter's Club! Explain the meaning of this song and share it"

oliverstoned Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 26 2004 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 6308	Posted: October 19 2006 at 07:28
	Good Thread, Martin! the Psi album sounds good. Rushaholic, you should try the "world" side of fusion, with excellent bands such as Collin Walcott, Codona, Oregon, Steve Tibbetts. All essential american artists! Edited by oliverstoned - October 19 2006 at 07:32

rushaholic Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: May 13 2005 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 1138	Posted: October 19 2006 at 07:18
	I was a fan of the genre in the early 80's while in high school. Had a chance to see Weather Report and Spryo Gyra in concert. I loved Jean-Luc Ponty and Al Di Meola. I stopped listening to all of the Jazz Fusion stuff though until recently. A few months back, I picked up two albums by Mahavishnu Orchestra - Inner Mountain Flame and Birds of Fire. One word - INCREDIBLE! Another rediscovered favorite is Brand X (now have about 4 or 5 of their albums). Looking forward to finding more.

Alucard Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 10 2004 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 3888	Posted: October 19 2006 at 06:15
	Welcome all to a new thread dedicated to my favourite genre Jazz-Rock. Upcoming features will be a commented discography of the ‘Electric Miles Davis Period’ (1967-1975) and the jazzier side of ‘Canterbury’ among other topics. I hope that lots of you will participate to keep this thread alive. I’ll start with two of my recent discoveries.: I haven't heard of ‘Min Bul’ until lately, when the name of Terje Rypdal on the cover draw my attention’Min Bul’ was formed in 1970 by Terje Rypdal (guitar, soprano sax), Bjornar Andresen (Bass) and Espen Rud (drums) and released their only selfnamed record in 1970. The record was re-released last year by Universal/ Norway and is IMO a major re-release! In 1969 Terje Rypdal took part at the famous 'Baden-Baden Free Jazz Meeting', and the same year John Mc Laughlin released 'Extrapolation' which has similarities to the record and obviously influenced Terje Rypdal. Both records have the same instrumentation (TR overdubbs on soprano sax) a mixture of Free Jazz, Avant Garde and Jazz Rock. Some of the tracks are very Free and might not be everyone's cup of tea, but the more 'composed' tracks, often build around a ostinato bass line are fantastic, my favourite tracks are 'Champagne Of Course' and 'Strange Beauty'.The recording is excellent : Oslo must be with New York among the citys with the highest level of recording quality. ‘Min Bul’ is together with 'Extrapolation' and the early Larry Corryel records a major guitar oriented Avant Jazz Rock record. PSI was a German band I who released in 1977 'Horizonte' a fantastic Jazz Rock record on the small Bellaphon label. The record can be ranged between the first 'Return To Forever and Billy Cobham's 'Spectrum'. All compositions are by keyboarder Mathias Frey, who is obviously influenced by Chick Corea. The compositions are all great and alternate moody athmospheres for Fender Rhodes and Sax and breathtaking polyrhythmic passages with either unisono sections or short very interesting solos. There is not one weak moment on the whole record, IMO one of the best Jazz Rock records of the 70's. Edited by Alucard - October 19 2006 at 06:18
	Tadpoles keep screaming in my ear "Hey there! Rotter's Club! Explain the meaning of this song and share it"

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